I have a motor, connected to a motor driver, connected a windows XP computer by a CAN-BUS (throught USB). I want to "talk" to the motor driver and have some questions:
Does the USB appear as a COM port?
What protocol do I use or how do I
find out what protocol to use?
Does anyone have or know of any
public implementations of a similar
thing that I can look at?
Are there any other hits you want to share?
Thanks!
While I also think SO is a better place for this, I do have some useful information.
Check out this CodeProject article, it explains the basics of talking to USB devices, with a sample Win32 application. It's pretty focused on the HID class of USB devices, so if you CAN based driver doesn't present itself as a HID device, you might be in for some pretty significant work.
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I recently acquired a Microchip EVB USB7252. I can use it as a USB hub. There are some pins on the board, and I have been looking for ways to use these as an interface between my computer and other devices (preferably my LCD screen).
So I got the IDE + compiler that is supposed to work for this product (MPLAB), but I could find no way to choose my model and get the correct target board.
I was hoping anybody (with likely more experience than me) could steer me in the right direction here. My only previous experience with dev boards is Arduino, where boards show up automatically as COM ports in the IDE. My ultimate goal here is to connect my peripherals to USB without using virtual COM-ports.
https://www.microchip.com/en-us/development-tool/EV33X03A
You can Try The IDE call "MPLAB" you said
and i think arduino CANT use "Microchip EVB USB7252"
So Try it And Good luck
It's a long way because USB is not easy protocol. You need to read USB specs first. Take a look at http://www.usb.org. Generally USB communicate between host and devices. There is special protocol used in this communication.
Perhaps the easiest way to do this will be using Linux and libusb or similar library. When you achieve some experience with this protocol you may be trying to write your own USB driver. I could also recommend to analyse some USB stacks like in Linux or in U-Boot one first.
If you have possibility then I'd also try to use some hardware/software USB protocol analyzers for some overview how does the communication look like.
I'm trying to configure/write VHDL code that would let me output or input data from the USB port on a Basys3 FPGA board. Problem is I have yet to found any threads or questions that talk about this topic.
The nearest thing to an answer I've found is this:
Provide input data to FPGA using USB
and it does not contain what I'm looking for.
Any clues anyone¿?
The Basys3 board has a usb-uart bridge chip as described in the reference manual. This will appear to a PC (or any device with a usb host and the appropriate usb-serial drivers) as a virtual com port. Sending data to and from a PC com port is quite easy.
You will need a uart implementation on the FPGA. There are lots of example designs on the web. One way is to implement a soft core microblaze processor with a uart peripheral in the FPGA. This example looks like it includes foundation for the functionality you desire.
The simplest implementation from the PC side is using a terminal program such as putty, Tera Term or realterm. Most languages include com(serial) port libraries or bindings. This type of interface tops out at a raw bandwidth of around 3-12Mbits per second depending on the drivers and implementation.
Read the manual for the Basys 3 board. It will explain how you can interface with USB devices plugged into the USB port. Be warned, however, that your options are pretty limited.
Short version: if you plug in a USB mouse or keyboard, they will be exposed to your design as an emulated PS/2 device. USB storage devices can be used to configure the FPGA. Other devices are not supported.
I recently got an Arduino Leonardo, and I'm fascinated by its ability to emulate USB HIDs.
But from what I can see, there are only libraries for keyboard and mouse emulation.
Is it possible to make it emulate a printer, microphone, headphones, anything other than a mouse or keyboard?
Yes, assuming that the device is HID compliant. You would just need to simulate the signals.
That said, it's unlikely that these other devices are HID compliant. They might, however, be class-compliant. Class-compliant means that you don't need special Windows drivers to plug it in and use it. There are a number of devices that are class-compliant; here is an example.
In the case of your Leonardo, it does not appear to be generally class-compliant, but more specifically HID compliant. I suppose, however, that you could write a driver on the Leonardo to make it class-compliant (for some other class).
See Also
USB Device Classes
You can use the LUFA toolchain to build much more than a few Leo examples.
It is possible to emulate any HID device with Arduino Leonardo, Pro Micro or their clones. It is not possible though with the stock Arduino HID library because it supports only SendReport method (Interrupt pipe), while generic HID support requires SetFeature/GetFeature methods (Control pipe).
Without going too deep into the theory of HID protocol implementation, you may check the emulation of the HID-compliant UPS on Arduino and implement something similar for any device class.
I want to program a microcontroller (AVR) to control some leds through USB. It's just out of interest in how to build and program USB devices.
There are some AVR microcontrollers that support the USB protocol or I could implement the USB protocol in an another microcontroller myself, but I wonder what to use to write your own drivers on the computer.
My level in system programming: total noob (hence the question)
So what is the literature you people would advice to get good knowledge of the USB technology and how to write your own drivers and beyond?
P.S.: I know:
C (probably will need it here)
Java (probably won't need it here)
Python (hope can use it here)
assembler (hopefully won't need it here XD).
...
P.P.S: driver development differs for different OS's. I use Linux and Windows, so any material related to one or both of these systems is welcome.
Well, although you can develop and write your own USB driver, the beauty of USB is that you don't need to write your own driver. the USB Implementers Forum has defined class specifications for all the standard device classes. If you can make your device fit into a standard device class the driver has already been written for you!
If you truly want to become familiar with USB development, you should start by reviewing the USB approved class specification documents.
If you are into framework for AVR microcontrollers with hardware USB then take a look into LUFA, and if you are into AVRs with software USB then look into V-USB. They have both implemented many USB classes so you don't have to do it on your own - just use them.
That sounds like a great project! I'd suggest starting off with something a little simpler since you're - as you say - a "total n00b". I'm not sure what hardware you currently have (or have in mind) but what I would suggest for the total beginner is the STK500. It's a development board that's very well supported in both Linux and Windows and will give you the most flexibility. It comes with LEDs and switches built in for your projects, but you will need to get a microcontroller. And for that I recommend the ATMega32, a great multi-purpose IC that's also well supported and has lots of documentation on the web.
Once you get those I suggest you do your development on Linux using avr-gcc (make sure to also install avr-libc). If you're using Ubuntu it's easy to get all the packages you need:
% sudo apt-get install gcc-avr avr-libc avrdude
Those should get you up and running. I'd suggest Googling around for help writing your first programs but another good resource is the online materials for this class at Cornell.
That's enough to get your feet wet with AVR microcontrollers and the development tools. The sky is the limit at that point but since you said you want to get into USB I'd suggest using the excellent V-USB framework to have your ATMega32 act as a USB device. After that, as they say, the steps to flipping LEDs are a piece of cake :).
I wonder what to use to write your own
drivers on the computer
libusb (here, here and here)
wdk
WinDriver
For libusb variants info read this
You could us libusb. It's powerful and cross-platform.
But what you're trying to do is a rather simple control interface. You can sidestep most of the complexity by using HIDAPI, I think.
http://www.signal11.us/oss/hidapi/
HID devices often use generic drivers that come packaged into the OS. That way you don't actually have to write any drivers ever, you just make your device compliant with the generic driver and tailor the client software to it.
I think this is what's usually done in the hobbyist electronics field, which is what you're interested in here.
HIDAPI is even recommended for simple communications with HID devices in the libusb FAQ since its a bit more complicated to do it across platforms using libusb.
One good way to go is just to develop a HID device, since the driver is built in to most higher level OSes and pretty flexible for simple IO like you are talking about. Another good option is just using a USB RS232 device or software. I use PICs which have a number of nice devices with USB onboard.
I had built my own test bed based on the ARDUINO UNO and i was using the ionlabs programmer of type usbasp and it worked perfectly fine but it did not allow to convert the TTL back to Rs-232 and hence i couldn't use the features such as serial.print() and i had to install the ftdi cable which allowed me to do this.
The drivers were the libusb 1.xx working just fine.
If you want to program the AVR you can use the ARDUINO software bundle or the stino to upload the programs.
You need to know c(only basics).
I created a USB-keyboard adapter last year for my capstone. I did not do the host programming but used existing code that you can find on the web.But I did program the device side and for that I got a lot of help from this website Teensy Look into their "Code Library" which has code for Keyboard, Mouse and others. Also, the USB protocol handbook will always be useful and you should always consult it when you are doing stuff with USB.
I wonder whether your AVB acts as a host or device. I guess your board is a usb device and you need to light the leds on your board. So, it may be a good way to initialize your board as a HID device. To achieve this goal, you need a HID gadget software stack running on your board. References as follows:
gadget framework in uboot
HID specefication usb org
debug tools such as USB Protocol Analyzer
libusb running on Host PC to send packets
The Microsoft documentation area of the WDK (Windows Development Kit) is recently available on MSDN. There is a section on USB, though you would be best to read the earlier sections first, in particular the "Getting Started" areas. They assume you'll be using C as the programming language for driver development.
WDK Site
WDK - USB Section
For Linux, the Linux USB website should be able to point you in the right direction. In particular you'll want the Programming Guide for Linux USB Device Drivers.
I'm planning to build a USB device that has buttons that some software needs to respond to, and indicators that the software needs to control. I'm new to USB, so I'm looking for any pointers that will get me started.
When I did some USB development a while ago, I found the information at USB Central extremely valuable.
For low bandwidth requirements, you can use something like the FT232R which is a single-chip USB serial implementation. The FTDI drivers are readily available and make the device appear as a regular serial port to the host computer. This is orders of magnitude easier than rolling your own USB implementation (for either end!).
Kinda vague, but in the past I've done a little bit of USB development. The easiest stuff tends to be HID related device as the subset of USB used to commincate is very to implement on both sides. There are hardware devices which are essentially stubbed out to work with HID, you just customize some circuity and go.
The USB standard is actually quite readable. Though it might be a bit overkill if you just want to create a simple device. You could probably get something like this, which is basically an 8051 controller with a USB connector together with firmware and a DLL.
Checkout WinDriver, which is a commercial multiplatform tool what give you easy way to implement usb drivers in user mode, source code compatible between Linux and Windows.