I'm trying to understand how to set the redelivery time for basic.nacked messages. Some important info is that I'm using quorum queues with a redelivery amount of 5 times. Consider the following scenario:
What is happening Now:
Producer sends message: Message X
Consumer handles Message X and runs into an error, in the error handler I use basic.nack()
Message is resent to original queue. Consumer immediately handles that task again.
This process repeats until the redelivery amount has been reached and then it's dead-lettered.
What I actually want:
I want the message that is requeued to wait a few seconds (3-5 sec or something) before it's once again handled by a consumer. I want to do this due to the fact that I'm using OCC & there are instances where delaying the message redelivery solves consistency issues. (for the people wondering why in god's name I need this).
I was able to do this with NATS streaming server, but I don't know how to implement it with rabbitMQ.
Additional info: I'm using amqplib (typescript) as the client and prefetch is set to 10 globally. I'm using AWS MQ for Rabbit as my rabbitMQ host
As far as i know, there isn't a way to add RabbitMQ Delayed Message Plugin to AWS MQ.
You can:
create a new dead_letter_queue with x-message-ttl option, with value you need (3-5 secs)
for this dead_letter_queue dead letter exchange will be your original exchange
create dead_letter_exchange connected with dead_letter_queue
Workflow:
Consumer nack message
Message goes to dead_letter_exchange
From dead_letter_exchange it goes to dead_letter_queue
In dead_letter_queue message waits x-message-ttl time
Message marks as dead and goes to your original exchange (and then to your original queue)
Related
Question one: Can I subscribe to the event of a message being sent to the _skipped queue?
I am using masstransit together with rabbit mq. Some messages sometimes are sent to the _skipped queue for unclear reasons. The message type has a consumer, the ttl (time to life) is not small. It should not happen, and I am getting a log entry from masstransit, but I want to do more at the moment. Maybe log an error, in test maybe pop-up a window. Is there a way to achieve this? I am only getting these log messages below.
MassTransit.ReceiveTransport|SKIP rabbitmq://localhost/services_admin db270000-1fd6-00ff-3b83-08d9000ef97c
MassTransit.ReceiveTransport|Declare queue: name: services_admin_skipped, durable, consumer-count: 0 message-count: 3
Question two: What exactly happens to messages in the _skipped queue? Can they be resent?
Skipped messages either don't match the type (namespace included), don't have a consumer on the endpoint, or were a response to a request client that is no longer waiting for it. Since it's a receive endpoint queue, it's likely one of the first two reasons. Look at the message body/details in the RabbitMQ Management Console, that should give you some ideas.
You can use a shovel in RabbitMQ to move the messages back into the queue once you've resolved the issue.
I've a service A which is publishing message to Queue(Q-A).
I've a dead letter queue(DLQ) bounded to DLX with DLRK.
Queue A is bounded to an exchange(E-A) with a routing key(RA).
I've also set x-letter-exchange(DLX) and x-dead-letter-routing-key(DLRK) on Q-A with ttl-per-message on this queue to 60 seconds
The DLQ is also set with x-letter-exchange(E-A) and x-dead-letter-routing-key(DLRK) with ttl-per-message on this queue to 60 seconds.
With above configuration I'm trying to route the message to DLQ from Q-A after ttl expires and vice versa.
On the consumer side which is another service, I throw AMQPRejectAndDontRequeueException with defaultRequeueRejected set to fals.
The above configuration works fine when the consumer is up and throws the
exception.
But I'm trying to limit my queue size to 1 and then publish 3 messages to the Q-A and also shutting down the consumer. I see all the three messages placed in both Q-A and DLQ and eventually all the messages are dropped.
But if I don't set the queue limit to 1 or start the consumer, everything works fine.
I've also set the x-overflow to reject-publish and when there is overflow, I get a nack at the publisher and then I've a scheduler which publish it again to Q-A.
Note: Both exchanges are Direct and I'm using routing keys to bind it to respective queue.
Kindly, let me know if I'm missing something here and let me know need to share my config
After digging through, I think i finally found the answer from the link Dead-lettering dead-lettered messages in RabbitMQ
answer by pinepain
It is possible to form a cycle of dead-letter queues. For instance, this can happen when a queue dead-letters messages to the default exchange without specifiying a dead-letter routing key. Messages in such cycles (i.e. messages that reach the same queue twice) will be dropped if the entire cycle is due to message expiry.
So I think to solve the problem I need to create another consumer to consume from dead letter queue and publish it back to original queue from the consumer and not directly ttl from the dead letter queue. Please correct me if my understanding is right.
I may have arrived at this too late, But I think I can help you with this.
Story:
You want a retry queue to send dead messages to and retrieve and re-queue them in the main queue after a certain amount of time.
Solution:
Declare your main queue and bind it to an exchange. We call them main_queue and main_exchange and add this feature to the main_queue: x-dead-letter-exchange: retry_exchange
Create your retry queue and bind it to another exchange. We call these retry_queue and retry_exchange and add these features to the retry queue: x-dead-letter-exchange: main_exchange and x-message-ttl: 10000
With this combination, dead messages from main_queue will be sent to retry_queue and after 10 seconds they will be sent again to the main_queue which will they last indefinitely until a consumer declares them dead.
Note: This method works only if you publish your messages to the exchange and not directly in the queue.
Background
We're using langohr to interact with RabbitMQ. We've tried two different approaches to let RabbitMQ resend messages that has not yet been properly handled by our service. One way that works is to send a basic.nack with requeue set to the true but this will resend the message immediately until the service responds with a basic.ack. This is a bit problematic if the service for example tries to persist the message to a datastore that is currently down (and is down for a while). It would be better for us to just fetch the undelivered messages say every 20 seconds or so (i.e. we neither do a basic.ack or basic.nack if the datastore is down, we just let the messages be retained in the queue). We've tried to implement this using an ExecutorService whose gist is implemented like this:
(let [chan (lch/open conn)] ; We create a new channel since channels in Langohr are not thread-safe
(log/info "Triggering \"recover\" for channel" chan)
(try
(lb/recover chan)
(catch Exception e (log/error "Failed to call recover" e))
(finally (lch/close chan))))
Unfortunately this doesn't seem to work (the messages are not redelivered and just remains in the queue). If we restart the service the queued messages are consumed correctly. However we have other services that are implemented using spring-rabbitmq (in Java) and they seem to be taking care of this out of the box. I've tried looking in the source code to figure out how they do it but I haven't managed to do so yet.
Question
How do you instruct RabbitMQ to (re-)deliver messages in the queue periodically (preferably using Langohr)?
I am not sure what you are doing with your Spring AMQP apps, but there's nothing built into RabbitMQ for this.
However, it's pretty easy to set up dead-lettering using a TTL to requeue back to the original queue after some period of time. See this answer for examples, links etc.
EDIT
However, Spring AMQP does have a retry interceptor which can be configured to suspend the consumer thread for some period(s) during retry.
Stateful retry rejects and requeues; stateless retry handles the retries internally and has no interaction with the broker during retries.
See this answer which has instructions: we Nack the message, the nack puts the message into a holding queue for N seconds, then it TTLs out of that queue and into another queue that puts it back in the original queue.
It took a little bit of work to setup, but it works great!
Assuming that we only have one consumer and our redelivery policy will allow the message to be redelivered for a quite long time.
I've tried a scenario where I sent two messages(different type), one is designed to be redelivered and the other can be consumed normally.
It seems the normal message will be blocked if it is delivered later than the redelivered one.
It will not be consumed until the redelivered message has tried many times reaching the maximum redeliver times. That would lead to a situation where a easy-to-consumed message must wait a long time to be consumed..
I'm wondering how the AMQ redeliver work. When a message is redelivered in a consumer, the other message can be sent to this consumer until current message has been consumed or timeout(to DLQ).
Can someone help ? Thanks,
ActiveMQ's overriding concern when redelivering messages is to honour message ordering on a queue.
Given two messages A and B, which get sent to a queue with a defined redelivery policy as you describe: if a client fails processing A, that message will get placed back on the queue and no other messages will be consumed until A is consumed successfully.
Check out the ActiveMQ Message Redelivery and DLQ Handling section for further details.
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For this case it is possible to set the ActiveConnectionFactory to onBlockingRedelivery.
Find details in de ActiveMq Api documentation:
ActiveMQ: 5.10.2 inside ServiceMix's Karaf OSGi
KahaDB persistence.
Default broker settings.
Default settings in connections(tcp://x.x.x.x:61616)
16 queues predefined in activemq.xml.
Two client connections to ActiveMQ. One for producer sessions, one for consumer sessions.
Producers send messages to all queues.
16 consumer sessions consumes messages.
All going ok, but:
If I reduce number of consumers to 1 (or 2 or three, I don't know where is threshold) so that messages from 1 queue are consuming and messages from another queues are storing.
While some time passing, I see this picture:
That 1 consumer stop receiving message. He think that there are no more messages.
From activemqweb I can see that message count on that consuming queue is > 0
From activemqweb I cannot see any messages in Message Browser in that consuming queue.
I can see messages from other queues in Message Browser.
If I start some other consumer(or restart activemq) to consume messages from different queue I see:
I start to see messages in first queue Message Browser(those that were sent before but haven't been seen after "freeze").
First queue continue to consuming
Second queue begin to consuming.
The "freeze" can occur again in some time and start consuming another queue will help again.
If I start all consumers I see no "message freeze".
If just stop and start consumer on "frozen" queue, nothing happens. It need to be done on "unfrozen queue" to "unfroze" "frozen queue".
It also happens if there is no active producer, only consumer.
What can it be?
Thank you.
Oups. I've found what it was.
It's just available memory exceeded.
I didn't set -Xms and -Xmx, so it run with only 512mb of max heap.
And when messages size stored and not consumed is closed to the top, I get these behavior.