Here is what I have:
Problem: Trying to connect two different 64-bit applications:
Microsoft Access 64-bit
QuickBooks Entrprise 21.0 (I'm not sure if it is actually 32-bit or 64-bit)
Using:
Visual Studio 2022 64-bit edition
VB.NET
64-bit version of QBFC15 library for QuickBooks
My thought is that when you use a 64-bit API, it would connect to a 64-bit application. I am most likely incorrect.
When I connect to MS Access in the debug 64-bit mode, it connects fine. The Intuit developer Network says you need to publish applications in the 32-bit mode. I have always used the 32-bit mode for publishing QuickBooks applications because they were 32-bit programs and, well, frankly, 64-bit applications hadn't come out yet (no old person jokes here). Anyway, I was really excited to see that the 64-bit version of a QBFC library came out (QBFC15) and they offer both 32-bit and 64-bit. So I downloaded the 64-bit version (which they recommend on their site https:\\developer.intuit.com>
So I'm thinking, hey, it's a 64-bit SDK! Yeah! So now I have this project that tells me I need to connect a 64-bit Access application to QuickBooks. When I debug, my new application connects just fine to MS Access in the 64-bit mode! Yeah! But the 64-bit Intuit SDK needs to be published in the 32-bit mode!!!! I'm confused. I know that they have put the cart before the horse and I know that they must still be running QuickBooks Enterprise in the 32-bit mode but come on. Putting out the SDK before the commercial product comes out to use it one? (I'm done whining now...got to get it out somehow!).
So how am I to connect my application to both "64-bit" programs when one errors in the 32-bit mode and the other errors in the 64-bit mode?
The programming isn't the issue, but this scenario seems really problematic. Do I tell the customer they need to downgrade their Microsoft Office to the 32-bit mode version? That would be an easy answer I guess, but it sure makes me look bad. Any other suggestions out there that could help me in this would be much appreciated.
If you running desktop edition of QuickBooks, then if you are running a x32 bit version of QuickBooks?
Then that means automation and working with the desktop edition means your software ALL MUST remain x32.
Only in 2022, have they rather recent upgraded and offer a x64 bit verison.
So, you have to check which desktop version of QuickBooks you are running. (most up to rather recent have been x32 bits - for a VERY long time).
So, what determines what QBFC library, what version of Access, and quite much vb.net?
You must continue to force your vb.net projects to run as x86, and NOT use "any" CPU and not use x64.
So, what will determine what all of your code is to run as?
It will be the desktop edition of QB that determines this.
It is of ZERO use to adopt office x64, access x64, or run your vb.net software, and the QBFC sdk and library as x64 bits if QuickBooks remains as x32.
(you using the wrong bit size and architecture here).
so, you have to be 100%, and in fact 200% sure
now, if QBFC is hitting the server database for QuickBooks, then that can be x64 bits but if you using the QB sdk and QBFC? Then that all must remain x32 bits until such time you upgrade the desktop edition of QuickBooks.
So, you have to REALLY but REALLY find out if in fact if you are running x32 QuickBooks for desktop, or x64 for desktop.
The version of QuickBooks and what version you you THEN much choose of QBFC library, vb.net, Access/office then again will have to match the bit size of QuickBooks desktop.
So from everything else from down to Access to vb.net to QBFC then all again much match the version of QuickBooks for desktop you have installed.
Now, if vb.net, Access you use is NOT to interface via the QBFC .dll and SDK? Then you don't care. But, inter process communication based on so called "windows COM objects"? And say upgrading from office x32, and the associated software systems you have? You can't just out of the blue decide to jump to office x64 without say your company and IT department not knowing the difference between x32 bit software, and that of x64 bit software.
Hint: 8 bit Apple II computer has a different architecture then a 16 bit IBM PC. And going from 16 bits to x32 bits? Again, a huge and large jump.
And from x32 bit software to x64 bit software? again a huge jump.
So, while windows can happy run x32 bit software, and it been a x64 bit OS by default for 10+ years?
Well, software packages running as x32 bits, and them interfacing to x64 bit software is a whole different matter. Such software has to remain the same bit size - and you can't have different bit size process on windows such as x32 bit COM objects (ole, COM, ActiveX = same technology stack).
So keep this basic knowledge and hallmark and pillar in our industry - different bit size software systems can't talk to each other via inter-op, or so called COM object automation.
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Im developing continually an inventor Addin in VB.Net in visual studio 2019 ,
i have multiple machine different builds , but once in a while some machine just don't want to load the Addin f.e. the current version i have now works on all machines except one AMD machine .
When i compile the same project with the same settings no changes at all on the AMD machine with ANY CPU build option it runs without problem . When i do it on my primary developing machine it does not work on this other computer.
I checked dependencies with dependency walker , i do not get any error messages .
When i make breakpoints in DEBUG mode and debug dll compilation in the first methods called in the "StandardAddInServer.vb" file it does not reach it on the AMD machine when it is compiled on the Intel machine. But in reverse it runs smoothly .
I have no idea what this could be and I'm only speculating that is has to do with AMD/Intel difference of the machines . Any help would be appreciated to come to a solution.
Inventor 2018.3.7 Professional Build 287 is on the Intel i7-4771 machine Visual Studio Community 2019 16.3.9 , .NET 4.8.03761
Inventor 2018 Professional build 112 is on the AMD Ryzen 7 3700X machine Visual Studio Community 2019 16.7.2 .NET 4.8.03752
Any more information which could be helpful will be provided gladly .
Well.... i tought lets make the maschines identical in regards to software .. i started installing inventor updates one by one at Version 2018.3.1 the Addin magically was working .... so i hope i help somebody if the , addin automatically unloads without any error , its probably autodesk inventors fault ...
Are you using ANY CPU ,or are you forcing the project to a given bit size?
If you don't set this, and leave it at ANY CPU? Well, if you launch the application from Visual Studio (such as installing on that target machine), then the application will run as x32 bits.
HOWEVER if you launch the program from the windows command line (command prompt).
Well, if you use the x64 bit command prompt, you get a x64 bit running - in-process program. If any of your external .dll's or libraryes are x32 (or not compiled with ANY cpu), or you using any un-manage code libraies (say like ghostscript or some such)? Then your program will run (or try to) as x64 bits.
However, if you launch a x32 bit windows command prompt (there are two of them - one is x32, and one is x64). So, if you launch the .net exe (your program) from a windows x32 bit prompt, then your program will run in-process as x32 bits.
So, be careful here. Using ANY CPU from Visual Studio will ALWAYS get you a x32 bit program - including debugging. But RUNNING the program (launching outside of VS) will not always be x32 bits.
And the above behaviours seems to explain your issues/problems on the AMD machine. It was NOT that you installed VS on that machine, but that using VS to launch your program in fact FORCED it to run as x32 bits.
Bottom line:
do NOT use ANY CPU unless that is exactly what you need, and that you are VERY sure any external libraries are also compiled as ANY CPU, or in fact that any external libraries doe NOT USE any un-managed code.
All in all? I would config your project to force run as x86 ALWAYS, and thus you not get some surprises of code not working.
I doubt very much that the AMD CPU is the issue, and installing VS only worked because of forcing your project to run as x32 as opposed to x64 bits. It has zero to do with AMD here.
You could try with a former framework version like 4.6.2. That should fix the problem. It could be that the newer service packs of Inventor can deal with addins created with newer .net versions. When 2018 Inventor was released, .net 4.8 was not available.
Was Albert wrote is true as well. If the architecture of your dll doesn't meet that of your host process, it can't be loaded. A 64bit process can use 64bit dlls only whereas a 32bit one can deal with 32bit dll only. A .Net project won't be compiled by Studio into fully functional machine code (nowadays you can do this as well), but intermediate code only, which will be compiled finally by the .net framework on the target machine. If anyCPU is selected, you don't have to provide different versions for different hardware because of this behaviour.
First off, I do most my programming as tools for myself and know just enough to get by. I wrote a VB program which uses a vender's API DLL to communicate with a serial port device. I used VS Express. Works great on my Win 7 32-bit machine.
I handed my program off to a co-worker (didn't expect to share my tools) who has a XP 32-bit machine. I get a windows error that it "is not a valid win32 application" I made sure to include the vender's DLL with my executable.
I really don't want to have to install VS Express on his computer as that is how I have solved the issue in the past. I could use some pointers on cross-platform compatibility. Not looking to make my software universal, just to get it running on a XP machine.
Thank you,
Xp only supports up to .NET framework 2.0 if you want to use it on all versions of xp.
So you need to check with version he has or you want to support.
So if you want it to run on Xp "All versions" you need to make it .NET framework 2.0
Is .NET 4.0 Compatible with Windows XP SP2 or below?
a few years ago I was a Windows application developer.
In the last years I am dealing with kernel and system software.
Now:
I have a customer who tells me that he has a 64bit C/C++ application with
specific functionality. This functionality is a dongle request
and comes from an external 32bit dll.
He says that this functionality is given although I can not see the
DLL in memory.
If I delete the DLL, the 64bit application is still loaded.
That means the 32bit DLL is somehow a static part of the 64bit application.
Can that be true nowadays?
And if so how can I achieve that with Visual Studio?
Best regards
Burkhardt
Based on what I have found on StackOverflow.com it is not possible to load a 32-bit DLL from a 64-bit application (or vice versa) dynamically or statically. There are however a few workarounds.
See the following:
https://stackoverflow.com/a/12938217/184528
https://stackoverflow.com/a/5720902/184528
https://stackoverflow.com/a/11642165/184528
I understand that I cannot load a 32 bit dll in a 64 bit process. I have a 32 bit dll (VB6 component), with no source code, that is loaded in an Excel automation macro. What are my options?
32-bit add-ins are not supported on 64-bit. Microsoft recommends to use the 32-bit version of Office unless you run into the memory limitations of a 32-bit process which is only likely to happen if you need to deal with extremely large spreadsheets:
The recommendations for which edition of Office 2010 to install are as follows:
If users in your organization depend on existing extensions to Office, such as ActiveX controls, third-party add-ins, in-house solutions built on previous versions of Office, or 32-bit versions of programs that interface directly with Office, we recommend that you install 32-bit Office 2010 (the default installation) on computers that are running both 32-bit and 64-bit supported Windows operating systems.
If some users in your organization are Excel expert users who work with Excel spreadsheets that are larger than 2 gigabytes (GB), they can install the 64-bit edition of Office 2010. In addition, if you have in-house solution developers, we recommend that those developers have access to the 64-bit edition of Office 2010 so that they can test and update your in-house solutions on the 64-bit edition of Office 2010.
If you need to go with the 64-bit version because of the memory limitations you have the following options:
If you have the source code, you can generate a 64-bit version yourself,
You can contact the vendor for an updated version,
You can search for an alternative solution.
There actually is a fourth option which is not mentioned in this article by Microsoft: You can create a 32-bit out-of-process COM server which serves as a proxy between your 64-bit macros and the legacy 32-bit COM components or create a COM+ application. A sample is provided here:
Accessing 32-bit DLLs from 64-bit code
Is there a way to compile a VB6 component into 64 bits?
My feeling is that the answer is "no", but I would like to confirm this.
Please, if you can, paste a link to an authorative source that would confirm.
No. I hope this counts as authoritative.
64-Bit Windows
Visual Basic 6.0
runtime files are 32-bit. These files
ship in 64-bit Windows Operating
Systems referenced in the table below.
32-bit VB6 applications and components
are supported in the WOW emulation
environment only. 32-bit components
must also be hosted in 32-bit
application processes.
The Visual Basic 6.0 IDE has never
been offered in a native 64-bit
version, nor has the 32-bit IDE been
supported on 64-bit Windows. VB6
development on 64-bit Windows is not
and will not be supported.
No it cannot (well Microsoft has not released a compiler to compile it for a 64-bit environment), but this does not mean that it won't run on a 64-bit system. To run it in conjunction with IIS, you'll need to install the 32-bit version of IIS.