I have two databases on separate servers (dev and production) I need to move my data from dev to production from multiple tables without affecting the pre-existing data on production. Any idea if SQL Manager support something like this or am I going to have to write a script for it?
My situation in detail:
I have a tool which allow me to create surveys for my company. The tool is located on dev and also on production. Since I don't want to add test data in my production db I am using the dev version of the tool to create my surveys and test them locally. The tool is tied to few tables in my db such as surveys, questions, anwers, results, etc.
My current setup: When I am done with a survey and it is ready to launch, I have to use the production version of the tool to manually redo all of the previous work that i did on production. This is not ideal at all not only because of the time that I have to spend doing it but also risking making mistakes during the manual copying.
What I need to do:
Those tables that I mentioned above, already have production data in them and they are available for my company to use. When I create a new survey I need to transfer only the specific records of the new survey (from all tables) from dev to production without affecting anything that I had there from before.
Use Import and Export Data
Or Add the DEV server as a linked server in your PROD server and then use INSERT/SELECT statements
You can use a database compare tool, for SQL Server I use SQL Delta, wich allows you to automatically create a script to run in the database you wish, http://www.sqldelta.com/
You're not going to find any out-of-the-box solutions for this, but there are tools that can help once you've got a clear idea of what you're trying to accomplish -- in detail. A little time spent at this point to make sure you're really clear on what you expect to have happen will pay huge dividends when you move to production.
The scenario you're describing sounds like you've got some configuration-type data in your database alongside your transactional, or domain data. In other words, you've got changes that need to be promoted from your development environment to production in order for your application to work properly. This isn't unusual, but you've got to be pretty deliberate and very careful when you set up a promotion plan for a scenario like this -- after all, you don't want to push test data to your production system along with your configuration changes. It's critical, therefore, to identify the tables you're going to push from dev to prod and make sure those are the only tables you're pushing in that direction.
You also mentioned something about "without affecting the pre-existing data on production". Can you tell us more about this (maybe an example)? Typically, you'd want to keep specific tables (by convention) set up to move changes in one direction only -- ie, from dev to prod. If you've got tables that need to contain merged changes, you're going to have to apply even more attention to getting this right, because you need to deal with merge errors -- what happens when you've got data to push and it's already present in the target database, for instance?
Once you've got a plan for what you actually want to move, some of the tools mentioned in other answers would probably work, or check out Redgate's tools (like SQL Data Compare) -- they make some really nice products to help with DB management tasks.
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Based on edits to the question, here are a couple of additional thoughts:
(1) Allow your production surveys to have a "disabled" or "testing" mode, so you don't have to make your data changes in another environment. This allows you to be able to move stuff from dev to production only when actual development changes exist.
(2) Define a "package" mechanism to move a survey from one environment to another. This would allow you to deal with merge conflicts, ID changes, etc., generically and reliably. As a bonus, this would allow you to also move a production survey back to dev for debugging and testing purposes.
I've been searching the internet for this question:
What are ways to transfer data and tables on a daily basis from an Oracle's Hyperion to SQL Server 2000?
I am an intern at a company and trying to figure out possible ways to do this. Any help or point in the right direction is greatly appreciated
This is going to depend a lot on specifics. Here are just a few possible solutions:
DTS
DTS is packaged with SQL 2000 and is made for this kind of a task. If written correctly, your DTS package can have good error-handling and be rerunnable/reusable.
SSIS
SSIS is actually packaged with SQL 2005 and above, but you can connect it to other databases. It's basically a better version of DTS. (technically it's radically different than DTS, but has a lot of the same functionality)
Linked Servers
From SQL 2000 you should be able to connect directly to your Oracle database as a linked server. In the pros column this kind of direct access can be easy to work with if you don't have any other technical skills such as DTS or SSIS, but it can be complex to get the initial set-up right and there may be security concerns/issues.
Build Your Own
Depending on what other technologies you use you can build your own application to do the ETL (Extract/Transform/Load, which is what you're doing). This could be in .NET, Java, etc. In the pros column you can use something with which you're familiar but there's a big downside here in that most of the low level type of work is already out there in tools like DTS/SSIS, so why reinvent the wheel?
BCP
You can simply extract the data from Oracle as .csv files (or some other format) and then import them back in using SQL Server's Bulk Copy Process. This can be fast, but there aren't many bells and whistles to go with this. If this is a one-time thing with just a few tables though then this is probably the easiest and fastest way to do it.
Third Party Applications
There are a slew of ETL applications already written out there (Data Import, Data Slave, etc.). They will usually provide wizards and one-click solutions (maybe a few more than one click), but they are also going to cost a bit of extra money.
EDIT:
Given your latest comment, I would probably go with a DTS package that's scheduled in SQL Agent to run daily. You can add in error-handling and have the system email/text/call someone if there's ever an issue (or do positive case reporting - ie. send a message when it's successful so that someone knows that there's a problem if they don't get a message each day.
In our company we use ADO.Net for the same task.
We created a source to Oracle , taking all data and then creating it in SQL server
You could write DTS packages to copy the data, and schedule them to run within Sql Server Agent.
See DTS Overview for information on DTS packages.
Here's a tutorial on creating a DTS package: Creating DTS Packages With SQL Server 2000
Oracle Hyperion is a suite of products, largely unrelated to Oracle's database product. I expect you are referring to a product such as Hyperion Financial Management or Hyperion Strategic Finance. These products have APIs that can be consumed using COM Interop or web services. The data can be extracted from the internal multidimensional database by analyzing the database metadata, creating dimension trees, and then using the information to create selections, that represent subcubes within the database; allowing you to get or set cell data.
I don't know what your level of knowledge of multidimensional databases is, but unless it is substantial you may find the task pretty hard. You also need to get a handle on the particular product API.
My company specializes in these kinds of activities, and we have components for this kind of thing. Drop me a line on my blog if you need further advice.
danielvaughan.org
Cheers,
Daniel
I don't know anything about Hyperion, but SQL Server 2000 is very old and may not have a driver to be able to pull data from Hyperion if the version of that is newer than the year 2000. You may need to look to see if there is a way to push the data from Hyperion rather than pull it into SQL Server 2000. One way i have done this is the past is to create pipe delimited text file from the data base that orginally has the data and palce it in a processing directory. I do know that DTS will process a pipe-delimited text file. So if you can't find a driver to process this data directly, consider if you can push it out to file and then process. You wil have to schedule a time gap between the job on Hyperion that creates the file and the DTS package job. But if you are only doing it once a day, that's prbably not a problme.
I'm developing a project for gathering customer feedback using a Samsung Q1 Ultra, a cheap touchscreen PC. The project consists of two parts: a PC based application that builds the survey and stores the info on an SQL Server, and a survey viewer on the Samsung device which downloads survey data from the SQL Server and stores it on a SQL Server Compact 3.5 database.
My question is, how best can I transfer survey data from the SQL Server to the handheld device's database? Writing a tonne of code to copy data from one database to another seems overcomplicated - is there a handy function or somesuch that I can use to copy data from identical tables on these two separate databases?
Any help, suggestions greatly appreciated.
Cheers
Since you are copying from one device to another, you're going to need to do some sort of transfer system (replication, export/import, etc.) obviously.
My initial suggestion would be to have the handheld devices just access the main database on the server remotely... This means that each of the individual handheld devices (should you add more than one) would be working from the same data. Other than that approach, I would suggest something like this (after adding a linked server entry):
select * into targetTable from [sourceserver].[sourcedatabase].[dbo].[sourceTable]
A quick search on Google actually returned a question similar to yours here on the site.
SQL Server Replication might work for this. That MSDN section has tutorials, how-tos and walkthroughs. It isn't all that difficult to understand, but there is some setup. However, once you're done, you can basically put it on automatic pilot.
This article is a pretty good overview.
We have a hr system that holds employee data and have many remote databases that use this data. Currently we use a mixture of copying the data across periodically to the remote databases and pulling the data across using views at runtime. Im curious as to which option you think is best. My personal preference is to copy the data across periodically as it removes the dependency from the master databases. However it seems both have pros and cons
Whats the best practice for this?
Thanks
p.s we have a mixture of sql2000, 2005 and s008 servers
Part of the answer will depend on what level of latency is acceptable for the other systems that use the HR data. Is a day behind OK? an Hour? or does it need to be current?
Each instance could result in a different solution.
I prefer a data pull instead of a push. The remote decides when it needs its data and you can encapsulate all that logic on the server where it belongs. In a push, you have to keep processes on the HR server in synch with the demands of the subsystem.
I have reservations about multiple remote databases querying a source system directly. If some latency is not an issue, build a process on the HR system to snapshot the required data into some local tables (or a data warehouse?) and have all remotes query this data. At the very least, build local views against the HR source and only allow remote servers rights to those.
Are you doing this across a linked server? If so, I recommend creating synonyms on the remote that point to the HR source across the link. This will allow you to move source data locations around and only have to change your synonym definition.
I'm considering undertaking a project to migrate a very large MS Access application to a new system based on SQL Server. The existing system is essentially an ERP application with a couple of dozen users, all sharing the Access database over the network. The database has around 300 tables and lots of messy VBA code. This system is beginning to break down (actually, it's amazing it has worked as long as it has).
Due to the size and complexity of the Access application, a 'big bang' approach is not really feasible. It seems sensible to rope off chunks of functionality and migrate them piecemeal to the new system. During the migration process, which I expect to take several months, there may be a need for both databases to be in operation and be able to query and modify data in both systems.
I have considered using something like the ADO.NET Entity Framework to implement a data abstraction layer to handle this, but as far as I can tell, the Entity Framework has no Access provider.
Does my approach seem reasonable? What other strategies have people used to accomplish similar goals?
You may find that the main problem is using the MS Access JET engine as the backend. I'm assuming that you do have an Access FE (frontend) with all objects except tables, and a BE (backend - tables only).
You may find that migrating the data to SQL Server, and linking the Access FE to that, would help alleviate problems immediately.
Then, if you don't want to continue to use MS Access as the FE, you could consider breaking it up into 'modules', and redesign modules one by one using a separate development platform.
We faced a similar situation a few years ago, but we knew from the beginning that we'll have to swich one day to SQL SERVER, so the whole code was written to work from an Access client to both Access AND SQL server databases.
The idea of having a 'one-step' migration to SQL server is certainly the easier way to manage this on the database side, and there are many tools for that. But, depending on the way your client app talks to the database, your code might then not work properly. If, for example, your code includes a lot of SQL instructions (or generates them on the fly by, for example, adding filters to SELECT instructions), your syntax might not be 'SQL server' compatible: access wildcards, dates, functions, will not work on SQL server.
In addition to this, and as said by #mjv, the other drawback of a one time switch to MS SQL is that you will inheritate many of the problems from the original database: wrong or inapropriate field names, inapropriate primary/foreign key policies, hidden one-to-many relations that you'd like to implement in the new database model, etc.
I'll propose here some principles and rules to implement a 'soft transition' solution, which clearly best fits you. Just to say that it's not going to be easy, but it's definitely very interesting, paticularly when dealing with 300 tables! Lucky you!
I assume here that yo have the ability to update the client code, and you'd prefer to keep at all times the same client interface. It is of course possible to have at transition time two different interfaces, one for each database, but this will be very confusing for the users, and a permanent source of frustration for them.
According to me, the best solution strongly depend on:
The original connection technology,
and the way data is managed in your
client's code: Access linked tables,
ODBC, ADODB, recordset, local
tables, forms recordsources, batch
updating, etc.
The possibilities to split your
tables and your app in 'mostly
independant' modules.
And you will not spare the following mandatory activities:
setup up of a transfer
procedure from Access database to SQL server. You
can use already existing tools (The
access upsizing wizard is very poor,
so do not hesitate to buy a real
one, like SSW or EMS SQL Manager,
very powerfull) or build your own
one with Visual Basic. If your plan
is to make some changes in Data
Definition, you'll definitely have
to write some code. Keep in mind
that you will run this code
maaaaaany times, so make sure that
it includes all time-saving
instructions that will allow you to
restart the process from the start
as many times as you want. You will
have to choose between 2 basic data
import strategies when importing data:
a - DELETE existing record, then INSERT imported record
b - UPDATE existing record from imported record
If you plan to switch to new Primary\foreign key types, you'll have to keep track of old identifiers in your new database model during the transition period. Do not hesitate to switch to GUID Primary Keys at this stage, especially if the plan is to replicate data on multiple sites one of these days.
This transfer procedure will be divided in modules corresponding to the 'logical' modules defined previously, and you should be able to run any of these modules independantly (keeping of course in mind that they'll probably have to be implemented in a specific order, where the 'customers' module has to run before the 'invoicing' module).
implement in your client's code the possibility to connect to both original ms-access database and new MS SQL server. Ideally, you should be able to manage from within your code both connections for displaying and validating data.
This possibility will be implemented by modules, where you will have, for each of them, a 'trial period', ie the possibility to choose at testing time between access connection and sql connection when using the module. Once testing is done and complete, the module can then be run in exclusive SQL server mode.
During the transfer period, that can last a few months, you will have to manage programatically the database constraints that exist between 'SQL server' modules and 'Access' modules. Going back to our customers/invoicing example, the customers module will be first switched to MS SQL. Before the Invoicing module can be switched, you'll have to implement programmatically the one to many relations between Customers and Invoices, where each of the tables will be in a different database. Such a constraint can be implemented on the Invoice form by populating the Customers combobox with the Customers recordset from the SQL server.
My proposal is to build your modules following your database model, allways beginning with the 'one' tables or your 'one-to-many' relations: basic lists like 'Units', 'Currencies', 'Countries', shall be switched first. You'll have a first 'hands on' experience in writting data transfer code, and managing a second connection in your client interface. You'll be then able to 'go up' in your database model, switching the 'products' and 'customers' tables (where units, countries and currencies are foreign keys) to the new server.
Good luck!
I would second the suggestion to upsize the back end to SQL Server as step 1.
I would never go to the suggested Step 2, though (i.e., replacing the Access front end with something else). I would instead suggest investing the effort in fixing the flaws of the schema, and adjusting the Access app to work with the new schema.
Obviously, it is never the case that everything just works hunky dory when you upsize -- some things that were previously quite fast will be dogs, and some things that were previously quite slow will be fast. And I've found that it is often the case that the problems are very often not where you anticipate that they will be. You can only figure out what needs to be fixed by testing.
Basically, anything that works poorly gets re-architected, or moved entirely server-side.
Leverage the investment in the existing Access app rather than tossing all that out and starting from scratch. Access is a fine front end for a SQL Server back end as long as you don't assume it's going to work just the same way as it would with a Jet/ACE back end.
...thinking out loud... I think this may work.
I appears that the complexity of the application resides in the various VBA modules rather than the database table/schema themselves. A possible migration path could therefore be to first migrate the data storage to SQL server, exactly as-is, as follow:
prevent any change to the data for a few hours
duplicate all tables to the SQL server; be sure to create the same indexes as well.
create linked tables to ODBC Source pointing to the newly created tables on SQL Server
these tables should have the very same name as the original tables (which therefore may require being renamed, say with a leading underscore, for possible reference).
Now, the application can be restarted and should be using the SQL tables rather than the Access tables. All logic should work as previously (right...), possible slowness to be expected, depending on the distance between the two machines.
All the above could be tested in about a day's work or so; the most tedious being the creation of the tables on SQL server (much of that can be automated, I'm sure). The next most tedious task is to assert that the application effectively works as previously, but with its storage on SQL.
EDIT: As suggested by a comment, I should stress that there is a [fair ?] possibility that the application would not readily work so smoothly under SQL server back-end, and could require weeks of hard work in testing and fixing. However, and unless some of these difficulties can be anticipated because of insight into the application not expressed in the question, I propose that attempting the "As-is" migration to SQL Server should be considered; after all, it may just work with minimal effort, and if it doesn't, we'd know this very quickly. This is therefore a hi-return, low risk proposal...
The main advantage sought with this approach is that there will be a single storage during the [as the OP expects] longer period during which the old Access application will co-exist with the new application.
The drawback of this approach, is that, at least at first, the schema of original database is reproduced verbatim, i.e. including some of its known quirks and legacy-herited idiosyncrasies. These schema issues (and the underlying application logic) can be in time corrected, but this is of course less easy than if the new application starts ab initio, with its own, separate, storage, and distinct schema.
After the storage is moved to SQL server, the most used and/or the most independent modules of the Access application can be re-written in the new application, and as significant portions of the original application is ported, effective usage, by select beta testers or by actual users can start to be switched to the new application.
Possibly, some kind of screen-scraping based logic or some other system could be used to produce an hybrid application which would provide the end users with a comprehensive application, which sometimes work from new logic, and sometimes from the original MS-Access program.