Seaweedfs: TTL options for S3 and/or volume - seaweedfs

I'm really interested in TTL feature for files found in Seaweedfs. The only missing part in my understanding is interaction with S3 and on the volume level.
Currently my app is using S3 libraries to interact with the storage. It writes a lot of small files, which are never rewritten, but being accessed for time to time. Also I need to keep only x days of the written data, while older entries should be removed. Seaweedfs looks like a perfect solution to me. But as far as I understand the docs, I can only set TTL using it's own API.
So here's my two questions:
Can I somehow set the TTL for a file using S3 abstraction layer?
If not, can I have default TTL value for say per bucket (or volume, I guess) or per cluster?

Currently not. This can be a good feature to add.

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What is the best way to know the latest file in s3 bucket?

I have a process which is uploading files to S3. The rate at which these are files are pumped to S3 is not constant. Another process needs to look into the latest files uploaded in this bucket and update, say watermark. Now we need the best-effort strategy to make this "latest file" available information as soon as possible.
S3 has event notification integration with SNS/SQS. Since I don't need a fan-out, I thought I could simply do a S3 -> SQS integration. But on digging deep into SQS, I see that though there are no limits on the number of SQS queues you can have per account (I would need quite a lot of queues if I were to assign SQS per partition in S3), there is a limit on max number of messages you can receive per call - 10
Though I can setup SQS per partition, i.e Q1 for root/child1, Q2 for root/child2, etc. The number of files getting pumped into these child folder itself could be massive. In that case, instead of trying to drain everything in the queue - JUST to get the latest file in the child directory, is there any other mechanism I could apply?
Note I am not 100% done with my POC and I certainly don't have the metrics - but given that long-polling (the more you wait, the more delay in getting out the latest file information. so short poll is probably what I should be using - but then there is a possibility that it does not send the request to all SQS servers so I would need multiple calls to get the latest event out from SQS. Need to find a balance there), 10 per call limit, etc, I just doubt if I am using the right tool for the problem here. Am I missing something? or am I terribly wrong about SQS?
I am yet to experiment SNS - does it do rate limiting for events? "If there are 10000 events per minute I will only send you the latest one" sort of?
Please let me know what is the best way to get the latest file uploaded in S3 when the rate of files uploaded is high.

Add a random prefix to the key names to improve S3 performance?

You expect this bucket to immediately receive over 150 PUT requests per second. What should the company do to ensure optimal performance?
A) Amazon S3 will automatically manage performance at this scale.
B) Add a random prefix to the key names.
The correct answer was B and I'm trying to figure out why that is. Can someone please explain the significance of B and if it's still true?
As of a 7/17/2018 AWS announcement, hashing and random prefixing the S3 key is no longer required to see improved performance:
https://aws.amazon.com/about-aws/whats-new/2018/07/amazon-s3-announces-increased-request-rate-performance/
S3 prefixes used to be determined by the first 6-8 characters;
This has changed mid-2018 - see announcement
https://aws.amazon.com/about-aws/whats-new/2018/07/amazon-s3-announces-increased-request-rate-performance/
But that is half-truth. Actually prefixes (in old definition) still matter.
S3 is not a traditional “storage” - each directory/filename is a separate object in a key/value object store. And also the data has to be partitioned/ sharded to scale to quadzillion of objects. So yes this new sharding is kinda of “automatic”, but not really if you created a new process that writes to it with crazy parallelism to different subdirectories. Before the S3 learns from the new access pattern, you may run into S3 throttling before it reshards/ repartitions data accordingly.
Learning new access patterns takes time. Repartitioning of the data takes time.
Things did improve in mid-2018 (~10x throughput-wise for a new bucket with no statistics), but it's still not what it could be if data is partitioned properly. Although to be fair, this may not be applied to you if you don't have a ton of data, or pattern how you access data is not hugely parallel (e.g. running a Hadoop/Spark cluster on many Tbs of data in S3 with hundreds+ of tasks accessing same bucket in parallel).
TLDR:
"Old prefixes" still do matter.
Write data to root of your bucket, and first-level directory there will determine "prefix" (make it random for example)
"New prefixes" do work, but not initially. It takes time to accommodate to load.
PS. Another approach - you can reach out to your AWS TAM (if you have one) and ask them to pre-partition a new S3 bucket if you expect a ton of data to be flooding it soon.
#tagar That's true especially if you are not in a read intensive scenario !
You have to understand the small characters of the doc to reverse engineer how it is working internally and how your are limited by the system. There is no magic !
503 Slow Down errors are emitted typically when a single shard of S3 is in a hot spot scenario : too much requests to a single shard. What is difficult to understand is how sharding is done internally and that the advertised limit of request is not guaranteed.
pre-2018 behavior gives the details : it was advised to start the first 6-8 digits of the prefix with random characters to avoid hot spots.
One can them assume that initial sharding of an S3 bucket is done based on the first 8 digits of the prefix.
https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/aws/amazon-s3-performance-tips-tricks-seattle-hiring-event/
post-2018 : an automatic sharding was put in place and AWS does no longer advise to bother about the first digits of the prefix... However from this doc :
http-5xx-errors-s3
amazon-s3-performance-tips-fb76daae65cb
One can understand that this automatic shard rebalancing can only work well if load to a prefix is PROGRESSIVELY scaled up to advertised limits:
If the request rate on the prefixes increases gradually, Amazon S3
scales up to handle requests for each of the two prefixes. (S3 will
scale up to handle 3,500 PUT/POST/DELETE or 5,500 GET requests per
second.) As a result, the overall request rate handled by the bucket
doubles.
From my experience 503 can appear way before the advertised levels and there is no guarantee on the speed of the internal rebalancing made internally by S3.
If you are in a write intensive scenario for exemple uploading a lot of small objects, the automatic scaling won't be efficient to rebalance your load.
In short : if you are relying on S3 performance I advise to stick to pre-2018 rules so that the initial sharding of your storage works immediately and does not rely on the auto-rebalancing algorithm of S3.
hash first 6 digits of prefix or design a datamodel balancing partitions uniformly across first 6 digits of prefix
avoid small objects (target size of object ~128MB)
Lookup/writes work means using filenames that are similar or ordered can harm performance.
Adding hashes/random ids prefixing the S3 key is still advisable to alleviate high loads on heavily accessed objects.
Amazon S3 Performance Tips & Tricks
Request Rate and Performance Considerations
How to introduce randomness to S3 ?
Prefix folder names with random hex hashes. For example: s3://BUCKET/23a6-FOLDERNAME/FILENAME.zip
Prefix file names with timestamps. For example: s3://BUCKET/ FOLDERNAME/2013-26-05-15-00-00-FILENAME.zip
B is correct because, when you add randomness (called entropy or some disorderness), that can place all the objects locat close to each other in the same partition in an index.(for example, a key prefixed with the current year) When your application experiences an increase in traffic, it will be trying to read from the same section of the index, resulting in decreased performance.So, app devs add some random prefixes to avoid this.
Note: AWS might have taken care of this so Dev won't need to take care but just wanted to attempt to give the correct answer for the question asked.
As of June 2021.
As mentioned on AWS guidebook Best practice design pattern: optimizing Amazon S3 performance, the application can achieve at least 3,500 PUT/COPY/POST/DELETE or 5,500 GET/HEAD requests per second per prefix in a bucket.
I think the random prefix will help to scale S3 performance.
for example, if we have 10 prefixes in one S3 bucket, it will have up to 35000 put/copy/post/delete requests and 55000 read requests.
https://docs.aws.amazon.com/AmazonS3/latest/userguide/optimizing-performance.html

S3 or EBS for storing data in flat files

I have flat files in which I store data and retrieve it instead of storing to database. This is temporary and may last for couple of months.I was wondering If I should be using EBS or S3. EBS is mainly used for I/O , S3 for content delivery , but S3 is on use you go model and EBS is you have to pay for the volume purchased ?
Pls guide, which one is better ?
S3 sounds like it's more appropriate for your use case.
S3 is object storage. Think of it as an Amazon-run file server. (Objects are not exactly equal to files, but it's close enough here.) You tell S3 to put a file, it'll store it. You tell S3 to get a file, it'll get return it. You tell S3 to delete it, it's gone. This is easy to work with and very scalable.
EBS is block storage. Think of it as an Amazon-run external hard drive. You can plug an EBS volume into an EC2 virtual machine, or you access it over the Internet via AWS Storage Gateway. Like an external hard drive, you can only plug it into one computer at a time. The size is set up front, and while there are ways to grow and shrink it, you're paying for all the bits all the time. It's also much more complex than S3, since it has to provide strong consistency guarantees for the entire volume, instead of just on a file-by-file basis.
To build on the good answer from willglynn. If you are interacting with the data regularly, or need more file-system-like access you might consider EBS more strongly.
If the amount of data is relatively small and you read and write to the data store regularly, you might consider something like elasticache for in-memory storage which would likely be superior performance-wise then using s3 or EBS.
Similarly, you might look at DynamoDb for document type storage, especially if you need to be able to search/filter across your data objects.
Point 1) You can use both S3 and EBS for this option. If you want reduced latency and file sizes are bigger then EBS is better option.
Point 2) If you want lower costs, then S3 is a better option.
From what you describe, S3 will be the most cost-effective and likely easiest solution.
Pros to S3:
1. You can access the data from anywhere. You don't need to spin up an EC2 instance.
2. Crazy data durability numbers.
3. Nice versioning story around buckets.
4. Cheaper than EBS
Pros to EBS
1. Handy to have the data on a file system in EC2. That let you do normal processing with the Unix pipeline.
2. Random Access patterns work as you would expect.
3. It's a drive. Everyone knows how to deal with files on drives.
If you want to get away from a flat file, DynamoDB provides a nice set of interfaces for putting lots and lots of rows into a table, then running operations against those rows.

Distributed datastore

We're trying to add some kind of persistence in our app.
The app generates about 250 entries per second. Each of these entries belong to one of 2M files. For each file, we want to keep the last 10 entries, so we can look them up later.
The way our client application works :
it gets a stream of all the data
it fetches the right file (GET)
it adds the new content
it saves the file back (PUT)
We're looking for an efficient way to store this data that can scale horizontally as the amount of data we're getting is doubling every few weeks.
We initially looked at S3. It works fine, but becomes very expensive very fast (>$1000 monthly just in PUT operations!)
We then gave a shot at Riak. But it seems we can't get more than 60 write/sec on each node, which is very very slow.
Any other solution out there?
There are lots of knobs you can turn in Riak - ask the mailing list if you haven't already and we'll figure out a sane configuration for you. 60 writes/sec is not within the norm.
See: http://lists.basho.com/mailman/listinfo/riak-users_lists.basho.com
What about Hadoop's HDFS spread over Amazon EC2 instances? I know each instance has a good amount of storage space, and you don't have to pay for put/get, only the inbound transfer.
I would suggest looking at CloudIQ Storage from Appistry. Its a fully distributed file store. Its accessible via a REST-based API, and can run on commodity hardware. You can define the number of copies retained on a file by file basis. It supports an Eventually Consistent model so you can balance file consistency with performance.

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So, I have a dedicated server. I host about dozen or so small sites.
Is there a real benefit in using S3(or Mosso) for my image and static file hosting? My server has more than enough disk space, or am I completely missing the point of S3?
I keep reading about how wonderful and cheap it is, and I ask myself "self, why aren't you using this" and the reply is always "why?"
if you're running within the included storage and bandwidth of your server and your needs are being served well, you are already doing the simplest thing that is working for you and that is where you should always start. Off the top of my head I can think of a couple reasons why you may want to move some storage to S3 in the future:
Your storage or bandwidth needs grow beyond what you have and S3 is cheaper than upgrading your current solution
You move to a multiple-dedicated-server solution for failover/performance reasons and want to be able to store your assets in a single shared location
Your bandwidth needs are highly
variable (so you can avoid a monthly
fee when you're not getting traffic) [Thanks Jim, from the comments]
If you run an entire website off of a single machine, and that machine is more than enough to handle your site, then kudos, images are not a bottleneck that needs solving right now. Forget about S3 for now.
However, as your server gets busier, you will want your server to be spending all of its time doing server things. Transferring static content like flat HTML files and images is an easy, dumb job, and wasting precious active connections, bandwidth, and CPU cycles on them is no good. By switching to S3, your server can concentrate on doing what's important, which is whatever your program actually DOES.
S3 also has benefits of being distributed around and attached to what's probably a fatter pipe than your server, which means the images will show up slightly more quickly on your client's machines, so that's an added bonus.
S3 is also backed up, which means that it makes for a pretty nice place to store pretty much any private data under the sun, in addition to stuff that you want to serve to others (although don't confuse the permissions settings between those two things -- in fact, you may want to use separate accounts entirely).
S3 is also nigh-infinite, which means that if you want to let users upload files to your site (profile images, attachments, etc), S3 is a great choice so that you don't have to constantly worry if your server is going to run out of disk space (obligatory $$$ warning here).
But like I said at the top, if you're a one-server setup with a handful of users, none of this really matters. It's a tool like any other, and it may not be something you need yet.
It's simply a matter of doing the numbers: given a certain amount of traffic for a set of files, you can calculate exactly how much hosting those file on S3 would cost you, and you should be able to do the same for your current provider. If the number is lower for S3, there you have your reason.
An added benefit is that S3 scales pretty much linearly with traffic and you pay only for what you actually use, whereas most providers charge you a flat fee no matter how little traffic you actially have, and some will gouge you badly if you ever exceed the maximum traffic included in the flat fee.
Better speed and availability could be an additional benefit.
Basically, if you have a site that could potentially incur wildly disparate traffic, then using S3 for its images and other static files means that if you're hit by the Slashdot effect, the site has a much better chance of staying reachable, and you have a much better chance of avoiding nasty surprises concerning excess traffic fees.
The advantages of Amazon S3 are reliability, scalability, speed and cost. Here is some info on each.
Reliability: Amazon stores your data in multiple data centers. If there was a disaster and one data center was destroyed your content would continue to be served from the second data center. It’s very unlikely that data you upload to Amazon would ever be lost.
Scalability: If one of your web sites becomes popular and millions of people visit the site, your web server will not be able to handle the load. In comparison when you upload your files to Amazon they are stored in multiple locations. If the load on your content grows your files are automatically replicated to more servers so your files will always be available.
Speed: Amazon has a service called CloudFront that works in conjunction with Amazon S3. When you activate CloudFront on your S3 content your content is moved to edge locations. These are servers that make your content available for high speed transfer.
Cost: With Amazon S3 you only pay for what you use. If you have a few files that get little traffic you will only pay a few cents a month.
SprightlySoft has a blog post which gives even more reasons why Amazon S3 is great. Read it at http://sprightlysoft.com/blog/?p=8
If you're hosting a high-traffic site, the bandwidth cost (and latency issues) of hosting images yourself makes S3 and other services like Akami attractive. For a low-traffic site, it probably isn't an issue.
I'd say that there's no reason if your base hosting plan provides enough space/bandwidth. Where I think it's useful is when your file transfers become enough that you have to look at buying an add-on of storage/bandwidth from the provider -- in that case, S3 may be a viable alternative. But if I'm paying $X/month and not using all of the storage, there's no upside to it.
On the other hand, if your capacity planning calls for you to someday exceed the provider's limits, S3 may be a good solution from the start so you don't have files being served from multiple places.
I would second the mention of "redundancy" -- you can count on any content that's in S3 to be distributed to multiple data centers, and effectively been very much always accessible for anyone with functioning network connection.
Cost may be another factor: data transfer rates for S3 are quite competitive.
And speed is the last one: you can access data VERY fast from S3. But that's more of an issue for data other than browser-viewable images.
For small sites, S3 or Mosso may not be that reasonable for image hosting, but if you have any video files (.wmv, .flv, etc...) or large downloads (app distributions, etc..), I'd still put them on S3 or Mosso to save potential bandwidth spikes if for some odd reason, your content becomes wildly popular.
You write:
My server has more than enough disk space, or am I completely missing the point of S3?
You are not missing the point if what you have on you server is write-once read-less-than-once stuff, such as disaster-recovery backups (which you hope will be read-never), because transfer times will not matter. The point of S3 is delivery speed.
First, S3 distributes your content geographically. End users benefit from shorter paths.
Second, S3 can act as a BitTorrent seed, which not only conserves your bandwidth, it means your most popular content will be distributed faster because it can take advantage of the ad-hoc swarm. There are reports on the AWS Discussion Forums that S3 support of the BitTorrent protocol is "very, very spotty." I have not tested it myself.
Many of you won't have this problem, but if you (and your web server) are located in Australia (read: the 3rd world of the Internet), you run into the issue that S3 does not have geographically close locations, which means there will be a higher latency on your images and other static content. Scalable: yes. Fast: no.
From what I hear, besides low cost, the main advantage is the ease of backup from an EC2 setup.
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http://groups.drupal.org/node/2383
Speed might be the only benefit. If your dedicated server is simply networked through your ISP (which may well throttle upstream speeds even if downstream speeds are high) then you might find that your sites are often slow to load. If so, then S3 or another dedicated server provider can help. Other than that, I can think of absolutely no reason why Amazon's service would be more appropriate for you - especially with simple, static sites.
It's not really directly related to your actual hosting of web sites, but it's certainly an important part of it, especially if the sites don't belong to you alone -- S3 is a great backup solution. There are tools such as duplicity that can automatically and efficiently back things up onto S3 for you, and it's extremely cheap for this purpose. I back up a fairly large amount of data for less than $1/month.
Besides the Fat Pipe and Local Delivery arguments for S3 there is also the manner of a single server does not function optimally when its functioning both as a db server and as a file server. If your running any sort of db I would suggest offloading all your static files to s3. The cost is trivial and you will see pretty big performance gains on page load.