In our Project we are using Ignite and in it we have multiple Ignite cluster and we are using zookeeper Discovery, I wanted to know if Ignite supports Join on two different Ignite cluster if yes please share the approach.
Found few inputs on this but not that helpful.
Apache Ignite: caching ClusterGroup
Communication between two Ignite clusters (maybe merging two Ignite clusters in one) ignite-clusters-in
Well, if they are two independent clusters, they are independent. The most common scenario I can think of is - having a Master and Replica cluster with a synchronization in between.
If you want to perform a SQL over multiple nodes, they have to be in a single cluster. There is no hard limit on how many nodes you can have. I know that some companies have hundreds of nodes. But it could be tricky in terms of maintenance, like using Zookeeper discovery and paying a lot of attention to the network.
If you indeed need to join some result from two completely independent clusters, you will need to do it manually. I.e. get a result from one, then from the second and do an aggregation/processing.
Actually I'm using a configuration of Redis Master-Slaves with HAProxy for Wordpress to have High Avaibility. This configuration is nice and works perfect (I'm able to remove any server to maintenance without downtime). The problem of this configuration is that only one Redis server is getting all the traffic and the others are just waiting if that server dies, so in a very high load webpage can be a problem, and add more servers is not a solution because always only one will be master.
With this in mind, I'm thinking if maybe I can just use a Redis Cluster to allow to read/write on all nodes but I'm not really sure if it will works on my setup.
My setup is limited to three nodes the most of times, and I've read in some places that Redis cluster minimal setup is three nodes, but six is recommended. This is rational because this setup allow to have Slaves nodes that will become Masters if her Master dies, and then all data will be kept, but what happend if data don't cares?. I mean, on my setups the data is just cached objects, so if don't exists it just create it again so:
The data will be lost (don't care), and the other nodes will get the objects from clients again, to serve it on later requests (like happen if a Flush the data).
The nodes will answer that data doesn't exists and will reject to cache because the object would have to be on other node that is dead.
Someone know it?
Thanks!!
When a master dies, the Redis cluster goes to a down state and any command involving a key served by the failed instance will fail.
This may differ from some other distributed software because Redis Cluster is not the kind of program that every master holds all data. In fact, the key space is horizontally partitioned and each key is served by only one master.
This is mentioned in the specification:
The key space is split into 16384 slots...
a single hash slot will be served by a single node...
The base algorithm used to map keys to hash slots is the following:
HASH_SLOT = CRC16(key) mod 16384
When you setup a cluster, you certainly ask each node to serve a set of slots, and each slot can only be served by one node. If one node dies, you lose the slots on this node unless you have a slave failover to serve them, so that any command involving keys mapped to these slots will fail.
I have to say the official website provides very little information to understand RabbitMQ clearly.
The official website suggests using three nodes to build a cluster. What is the reason for that? I suppose it's like ZooKeeper, which needs an odd number of nodes to do a quorum and elect the master.
Also, what is the advantage of using a non-HA cluster? Improve the performance or what? If the node which a queue resides is down, then the queue is not working. So for all situation, is it necessary to set the cluster to be mirror queue and auto-sync?
Three nodes is the minimum to have a reasonable HA.
Suppose you have a queue mirrored in two nodes, if one gets down, another one will be promoted as the new slave or master.
Please read here section Automatically handling partitions and the section More about pause-minority mode
is therefore not a good idea to enable pause-minority mode on a
cluster of two nodes since in the event of any network partition or
node failure, both nodes will pause
RabbitMQ can handle the cluster in different ways, depending on where you deploy it - LAN or WAN or unstable LAN etc. And you can also use federation, shovel
what is the advantage of using a non-HA cluster? Improve the performance or what?
I'd say yes, or simply you have an environment where you don't need to have HA queues since you can have only temporary queues.
is it necessary to set the cluster to be mirror queue and auto-sync?
You can also decide for manual-sync, since when you sync the queue is blocked, and if you have lots of messages to sync, it can be a problem. For example, you can decide to sync the queues when you don't have traffic.
Here (section Unsynchronised Slaves) it is explained clearly.
Your question is a bit general, and it depends on what are you looking for.
I understand redis sentinel is a way of configuring HA (high availability) among multiple redis instances. As I see, there is one redis instance actively serving the client requests at any given time. There are two additional servers are on standby (waiting for a failure to happen, so one of them can be in action again).
Is it waste of resources?
Is there a better way of using full use of the resources available?
Is Redis clustering an alternative to Redis sentinel?
I already looked up redis documentation for sentinel and clustering, can somebody having experience explain please.
UPDATE
OK. In my real deployment scenario I have two servers dedicated for redis. I have another server my Jboss server is running. The application running in Jboss is configured to connect to redis master server(M).
Failover scenario
Ideally, I think when Master cache server fails (either Redis process goes down or machine failure) the application in Jboss needs to connect to Slave cache server. How would I configure the redis servers to achieve this?
+--------+ +--------+
| Master |---------| Slave |
| | | |
+--------+ +--------+
Configuration: quorum = 1
First, lets talk sentinel.
Sentinel manages the failover, it doesn't configure Redis for HA. It is an important distinction. Second, the diagram you posted is actually a bad setup - you don't want to run Sentinel on the same node as the Redis nodes it is managing. When you lose that host you lose both.
As to "Is it waste of resources?" it depends on your use case. You don't need three Redis nodes in that setup, you only need two. Three increases your redundancy, but is not required. If you need the added redundancy then it isn't a waste of resources. If you don't need redundancy then you just run a single Redis instance and call it good - as running more would be "wasted".
Another reason for running two slaves would be to split reads. Again, if you need it then it wouldn't be a waste.
As to "Is there a better way of using full use of the resources available?" we can't answer that as it is far too dependent on your specific scenario and code. That said if the amount of data to store is "small" and the command rate is not exceedingly high, then remember you don't need to dedicate a host to Redis.
Now for "Is Redis clustering an alternative to Redis sentinel?".
It really depends entirely on your use case. Redis Cluster is not an HA solution - it is a multiple writer/larger-than-ram solution. If your goal is just HA then it likely won't be suitable for you. Redis Cluster comes with limitations, particularly around multi-key operations, so it isn't necessarily a straightforward "just use cluster" operation.
If you think having three hosts running Redis (and three running sentinel) is wasteful, you'll likely hold Cluster to be even more so as it does require more resources.
The questions you've asked are probably too broad and opinion-based to survive as written. If you have a specific case/problem you are working out please update with that so we can provide specific assistance and information.
Update for specifics:
For proper failover management in your scenario I would go with 3 sentinels, one running on your JBoss server. If you have 3 JBoss nodes then go with one on each. I'd have a Redis pod (master+slave) on separate nodes, and let sentinel manage the failover.
From there it is a matter of wiring up JBoss/Jedis to use Sentinel for it's information and connection management. As I don't use those a quick search turns up that Jedis has the support for it, you just need to configure it correctly. Some examples I found are at Looking for an example of Jedis with Sentinel and https://github.com/xetorthio/jedis/issues/725 which talk about JedisSentinelPool being the route for using a pool.
When Sentinel executes a failover the clients will be disconnected and Jedis will (should?) handle the reconnection by asking the Sentinels who the current master is.
This is not direct answer to your question, but think, it's helpful information for Redis newbies, like me. Also this question appears as the first link in google when searching the "Redis cluster vs sentinel".
Redis Sentinel is the name of the Redis high availability solution...
It has nothing to do with Redis Cluster and is intended to be used by
people that don't need Redis Cluster, but simply a way to perform
automatic fail over when a master instance is not functioning
correctly.
Taken from the Redis Sentinel design draft 1.3
It's not obviuos when you are new to Redis and implementing failover solution. Official documentations about sentinel and clustering doens't compare to each other, so it's hard to choose the right way without reading tons of documentations.
The recommendation, everywhere, is to start with an odd number of instances, not using two or a multiple of two. That was corrected, but lets correct some other points.
First, to say that Sentinel provides failover without HA is false. When you have failover, you have HA with the additional benefit of application state being replicated. The distinction is that you can have HA in a system without replication (it's HA but it's not fault tolerant).
Second, running a sentinel on the same machine as its target redis instance is not a "bad setup": if you lose your sentinel, or your redis instance, or the whole machine, the results are the same. That's probably why every example of such configurations shows both running on the same machine.
Additional info to above answers
Redis Cluster
One main purpose of the Redis cluster is to equally/uniformly distribute
your data load by sharding
Redis Cluster does not use consistent hashing, but a different form of sharding where every key is conceptually part of what is called as hash slot
There are 16384 hash slots in Redis Cluster, Every node in a Redis Cluster is responsible for a subset of the hash slots, so, for example, you may have a cluster with 3 nodes,
where:
Node A contains hash slots from 0 to 5500,
Node B contains hash slots from 5501 to 11000,
Node C contains hash slots from 11001 to 16383
This allows us to add and remove nodes in the cluster easily. For example, if we want to add a new node D, we need to move some hash slot from nodes A, B, C to D
Redis cluster supports the master-slave structure, you can create slaves A1,B1, C2 along with master A, B, C when creating a cluster, so when master B goes down slave B1 gets promoted as master
You don't need additional failover handling when using Redis Cluster and you should definitely not point Sentinel instances at any of the Cluster nodes.
So in practical terms, what do you get with Redis Cluster?
1.The ability to automatically split your dataset among multiple nodes.
2.The ability to continue operations when a subset of the nodes are experiencing failures or are unable to communicate with the rest of the cluster.
Redis Sentinel
Redis supports multiple slaves replicating data from a master node.
This provides a backup for data in master node.
Redis Sentinel is a system designed to manage master and slave. It runs as separate program. The minimum number of sentinels required in an ideal system is 3. They communicate among themselves and make sure that the Master is alive, if not alive they will promote one of the slaves as master, so later when the dead node spins up it will be acting as a slave for the new master
Quorum is configurable. Basically it is the number of sentinels that need to agree as the master is down. N/2 +1 should agree. N is the number of nodes in the Pod (note this setup is called a pod and is not a cluster)
So in practical terms, what do you get with Redis Sentinel?
It will make sure that Master is always available (if master goes down, the slave will be promoted as master)
Reference :
https://fnordig.de/2015/06/01/redis-sentinel-and-redis-cluster/
https://redis.io/topics/cluster-tutorial
This is my understanding after banging my head throughout the documentation.
Sentinel is a kind of hot standby solution where the slaves are kept replicated and ready to be promoted at any time. However, it won't support any multi-node writes. Slaves can be configured for read operations. It's NOT true that Sentinel won't provide HA, it has all the features of a typical active-passive cluster ( though that's not the right term to use here ).
Redis cluster is more or less a distributed solution, working on top of shards. Each chunk of data is being distributed among masters and slaves nodes. A minimum replication factor of 2 ensures that you have two active shards available across master and slaves.
If you know the sharding in Mongo or Elasticsearch, it will be easy to catch up.
Redis can operate in partitioned cluster (with many masters and slaves of those masters) or a single instance mode (single master with replica slaves).
The link here says:
When using Redis in single instance mode, in which a single Redis server manages the entire unpartitioned database, Redis Sentinel is used to manage its availability
It also says:
A Redis cluster, in which data is partitioned among multiple primary instances, manages availability by itself and requires no extra components.
So HA can be ensured in the 2 mentioned scenarios. Hope this clears the doubts. Redis cluster and sentinels are not alternative to each other. They are just used to ensure HA in different cases of partitioned or non-partitioned master.
Redis Sentinel performs the failover promoting replicas when they see a master is down. You typically want an odd number of sentinel nodes. For the example of one master and one replica, 3 sentinels should be used so there can be a consensus on the decision. Ideally the 3rd sentinel is on a 3rd server so the decision is not skewed (depending on failure). Sentinel takes care of changing the master/replica config settings on your nodes so that promotion and syncing occurs in the correct order and you don’t overwrite data by bringing on an old failed master that now contains older data.
Once you have your sentinel nodes set up to perform failovers, you need to ensure you are pointing to the correct instance. See an example of HAProxy configuration for this. HAProxy performs health checks and will point to the new master if a failure occurs.
Clustering will allow you to scale horizontally and can help handle high loads. It does take a bit of work to set up and configure up front.
There is an open source fork of Redis, “KeyDB” that has eliminated the need for sentinel nodes with an active-replica option. This allows the replica node to accept reads and writes. When a failover occurs HAProxy stops reads/writes with the failed node and just uses the remaining active node which is already sync’d. Timestamping enables the failed nodes to rejoin automatically and resync without losing data when they come back online. Setup is simple and for higher traffic you don’t need special upfront setup to direct reads to the replica node and read/writes to the master. See example of active replication here. KeyDB is also multi-threaded which for some applications might be an alternative to clustering, but really depends on what your needs are.
There is also an example of setting up clustering manually and with the create-cluster tool. These are the same steps if you are using Redis (replace 'keydb' with 'redis' in instruction)
I have a three node cluster but did not to the reliable queue. I am using puka for python as the client.
For load balancing on ec2 I am using route53 and assign an equal weight to a private ip address. So..if I have three ec2 instances I have 3 route53 entries.
So...my question is this why the cluster? What is the difference with three nodes not clustered on route53 versus three nodes clustered on route53? Are all rabbits writable and readable?
My understaing is that if I want HA and reliable queues then rabbit becomes a master slave and a working cluster is required first before turing the custer into reliable queues.
I am rather confused about how to best cluster and the differences between a cluster vs HA.
Thanks
Clustered nodes will have equally weighted nodes, that no master and no slave, the only advantage is that when a publisher pushes a message to some queue located on other node, the message will traverse from node to node (through Erlang's clustered VM layer) to reach its consumer/worker.
On the other hand, in the HA mode, All queues and exchanges (as per some policy you specify) will be replicated across all the nodes, more over, there is only one master and one or more slaves, where the master is the oldest existing node, and when it dies the second oldest node will take over and be the master.
Let me know if that was the answer you expected.
Here is an article outlining both HA and load-balancing techniques, and how to combine the two efficiently, across a RabbitMQ cluster.