Problem
Our clients can create their own queues on the RabbitMq cluster and we need to control the important parameters on the queue (ttl, expiration etc.).
The issue is that we cannot be sure what value is actually applied: the one from x-arguments or the policy.
Question
In this rabbitmq documentation, there is nicely explained how are different policies resolved but it does not mention the priority of x-arguments.
So if the queue is created with x-message-ttl : 180000 and the applied policy defines message-ttl : 100000, like this :
... what will be the applied value?
Answer is likely Yes
It looks like policies do override the queue x-attribute.
Why ?
Well, it did for max-length in this small test (with ver 3.10.11) :
Queue was created with x-max-length: 5
Policy of max-lenght: 3 applied
Number of ready messages dropped from 5 to 3
Using 'io.awspring.cloud:spring-cloud-starter-aws-messaging' how can we apply a per-queue delay to the messages in the queue?
When I do the following...
sqsTemplate.convertAndSend( "myqueue.fifo", myObject, Map.of(SQS_GROUP_ID_HEADER, id, SQS_DEDUPLICATION_ID_HEADER, UUID.randomUUID().toString(), SQS_DELAY_HEADER, 1 )
I see...
org.springframework.messaging.MessageDeliveryException: Value 1 for parameter DelaySeconds is invalid. Reason: The request include parameter that is not valid for this queue type.
https://docs.aws.amazon.com/AWSSimpleQueueService/latest/SQSDeveloperGuide/sqs-delay-queues.html
The delay is set on the FIFO itself not via the service consuming it.
How can I delete each non processed messages from my queue automatically after 60 seconds?
Use the option x-message-ttl in queue properties(not message properties).
set a value of milliseconds to auto expire messages
x-message-ttl: 60000 means expire and remove each message after 60 seconds
i am trying to implement below scenario in my application
Exachange e1 -> Queue q1
DLX exchange e2 -> Queue q2
Also i have mentioned DLE and DLK in queue-q1 then message moving to queue-q2 on rejection/failure/timeout.
But how does i resend/retry message from queue-q2 to original queue-q1?
You can do that manually in your application after some analyze and filtering logic. Or you can make some TTL on that queue-q2 to let not consumed messages to be expired. And you also need to specify in this queue a x-dead-letter-exchange as a name for the Exachange e1 for desired recycling.
See more info yin this article:
Create the dead letter exchange, which is just a normal exchange with a special name
Create a retry_message queue and have all messages published to the dead letter exchange route here
When you setup the retry_message queue, be sure to default the following parameter values of the queue
x-message-ttl: 30000 – This will set a ttl on any message published to the queue. When the ttl expires, the message will be republished to the exchange specified in the x-dead-letter-exchange parameter.
x-dead-letter-exchange: original_exchange_name – This is where the message will get republished to once the message ttl expires. We normally want this be the name of the exchange where the message was originally published.
we have setup some workflow environment with Rabbit.
It solves our needs but I like to know if it is also good practise to do it like we do for scheduled tasks.
Scheduling means no mission critical 100% adjusted time. So if a job should be retried after 60 seconds, it does mean 60+ seconds, depends on when the queue is handled.
I have created one Q_WAIT and made some headers to transport settings.
Lets do it like:
Worker is running subscribed on Q_ACTION
If the action missed (e.g. smtp server not reachable)
-> (Re-)Publish the message to Q_WAIT and set properties.headers["scheduled"] = time + 60seconds
Another process loops every 15 seconds through all messages in Q_WAIT by method pop() and NOT by subscribed
q_WAIT.pop(:ack => true) do |delivery_info,properties,body|...
if (properties.headers["scheduled"] has reached its time)
-> (Re-)Publish the message back to Q_ACTION
ack(message)
after each loop, the connection is closed so that the NOT (Re-)Published are left in Q_WAIT because they were not acknowledged.
Can someone confirm this as a working (good) practise.
Sure you can use looping process like described in original question.
Also, you can utilize Time-To-Live Extension with Dead Letter Exchanges extension.
First, specify x-dead-letter-exchange Q_WAIT queue argument equal to current exchange and x-dead-letter-routing-key equal to routing key that Q_ACTION bound.
Then set x-message-ttl queue argument set or set message expires property during publishing if you need custom per-message ttl (which is not best practice though while there are some well-known caveats, but it works too).
In this case your messages will be dead-lettered from Q_WAIT to Q_ACTION right after their ttl expires without any additional consumers, which is more reliable and stable.
Note, if you need advanced re-publish logic (change message body, properties) you need additional queue (say Q_PRE_ACTION) to consume messages from, change them and then publish to target queue (say Q_ACTION).
As mentioned here in comments I tried that feature of x-dead-letter-exchange and it worked for most requirements. One question / missunderstandig is TTL-PER-MESSAGE option.
Please look on the example here. From my understanding:
the DLQ has a timeout of 10 seconds
so first message will be available on subscriber 10 seconds after publishing.
the second message is posted 1 second after the first with a message-ttl (expiration) of 3 seconds
I would expect the second message should be prounounced after 3 seconds from publishing and before first message.
But it did not work like that, both are available after 10 seconds.
Q: Shouldn't the message expiration overrule the DLQ ttl?
#!/usr/bin/env ruby
# encoding: utf-8
require 'bunny'
B = Bunny.new ENV['CLOUDAMQP_URL']
B.start
DELAYED_QUEUE='work.later'
DESTINATION_QUEUE='work.now'
def publish
ch = B.create_channel
# declare a queue with the DELAYED_QUEUE name
q = ch.queue(DELAYED_QUEUE, :durable => true, arguments: {
# set the dead-letter exchange to the default queue
'x-dead-letter-exchange' => '',
# when the message expires, set change the routing key into the destination queue name
'x-dead-letter-routing-key' => DESTINATION_QUEUE,
# the time in milliseconds to keep the message in the queue
'x-message-ttl' => 10000,
})
# publish to the default exchange with the the delayed queue name as routing key,
# so that the message ends up in the newly declared delayed queue
ch.basic_publish('message content 1 ' + Time.now.strftime("%H-%M-%S"), "", DELAYED_QUEUE, :persistent => true)
puts "#{Time.now}: Published the message 1"
# wait moment before next publish
sleep 1.0
# puts this with a shorter ttl
ch.basic_publish('message content 2 ' + Time.now.strftime("%H-%M-%S"), "", DELAYED_QUEUE, :persistent => true, :expiration => "3000")
puts "#{Time.now}: Published the message 2"
ch.close
end
def subscribe
ch = B.create_channel
# declare the destination queue
q = ch.queue DESTINATION_QUEUE, durable: true
q.subscribe do |delivery, headers, body|
puts "#{Time.now}: Got the message: #{body}"
end
end
subscribe()
publish()
sleep