Hopefully I will have more luck today. I have no prior USB integration and about 8 months of learning embedded systems on Atmel devices. I am trying to use an Atmel SAM L series to connect over USB to a computer. The use case is for data transfer. Specifically, the MCU will be gathering data from it's sensors and packaging it for USB transfer.
I have searched through and read up on all of Atmel's included USB examples. I have also started reading through usb.org's class specifications for CDC.
I have running now something that lets me send data along one com port, into the target usb and then out the debugger usb to another com port. However, I don't think this is real USB.
My problem is two fold.
1.) I do not fully understand what differentiates USB from serial communication on a com port.
2.) Even if I were doing it correctly, I'm not sure how to test and verify that I have indeed created a legitimate USB device that can be accepted by a host computer.
Links to documentation(Atmel or generic) or example code would be appreciated.
1) USB is defined in the USB specifications from http://www.usb.org. Serial ports were an older and simpler interface that involved sending data back and forth asynchonously on pins with names like TX and RX. The USB CDC class and its ACM subclass allow you to make a USB device that emulates a serial port. If you make your device be a USB CDC ACM device, then you don't need to supply any drivers for Windows 10, Linux, or Mac OS X.
2) You can read the USB specification and the CDC ACM specification. You can run the USB command verifier. You can test your device with a variety of different USB hosts to make sure it works.
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I'm working on a USB MIDI device that will function as the receiver for a wireless system. This device will communicate bi-directionally though a radio module with the transmitter, a separate piece of hardware that runs in USB host mode.
The receiver will be plugged into a PC. MIDI devices plugged into the transmitter need to show up on the PC as MIDI ports. Since the transmitter supports a USB hub, there can be multiple devices plugged in.
There are two requirements that I'm not 100% how to meet:
1.) The MIDI port names on the PC end need to reflect the name supplied by the USB device plugged into the transmitter so that it's clear which device the port is for.
2.) The set of MIDI ports on the PC needs to update when devices are plugged/unplugged from the transmitter. This is the crux of the question: is there a way to update the available USB interfaces/MIDI jacks initiated by the device?
The brute force way of doing this would be to completely reset the receiver any time it receives a message from the transmitter that there's been a change (on reset,the receiver would then poll the transmitter for current devices and supply the updated info when the host PC re-enumerates).
The transmitter/receiver hardware are both based on PIC32MZ MCUs (no RTOS). I'm good with writing the USB code to get the host/receiver end to do whatever. The question is about how, at the level of the USB protocol, to do this.
Also, just to be clear: The transmitter/receiver communication will be an ad-hoc protocol and the receiver will set up all its USB configuration data itself; the idea isn't to attempt to seamlessly enumerate devices over the wireless link.
To show the port names on the PC, just copy the USB descriptor strings over to the transmitter.
The only way for a USB device to change its configuration is to reset itself, as if it had been unplugged, and to let the host re-enumerate it. So the only way to prevent multiple devices from interfering with each other is to have multiple (virtual) USB devices on the receiver. If your hardware does not support this, then you cannot avoid the reset.
I'm trying to implement UART over a USB interface on the STM324x9I-EVAL development board. The purpose is to send commands to a servo controller (or other hardware, for that matter) serially. I've successfully implemented the USB_Device_CDC example on the development board but am unsure exactly how this works without a PC with drivers on the other end. As far as other hardware is concerned, will the USB port now simply look like a serial port? Or is there still a need for a driver or some sort of interface on the other end?
I do want to point out that I'm aware of the following post:
Emulating UART over USB
but I don't believe my question is fully answered within the context of that answer.
A USB connection is not a peer-to-peer connection like a UART. It requires a host and a device in a master/slave relationship. The device cannot initiate data transfer; it must be continuously polled by the by the host.
A CDC/ACM class device presents a virtual COM port on a PC host, but that does not allow the device to communicate with a UART interface. It looks like a serial port at the software level, but does not implement a UART physical layer. There is an awful lot going on under the hood to make it look like a PC serial port, but none of it resembles UART communications at the physical level.
There are devices that act as UART/USB bridges (from FTDI and Prolific for example), and you could (somewhat expensively) build your own from a microcontroller that has a USB device controller and a UART, but the bridge is a USB device and must still connect to a USB host; these are normally used to connect a PC to a microcontroller that lacks a USB controller or where the software/CPU overhead of using a USB controller is too great.
In theory you could connect a microcontroller that has a USB host controller to one that has a USB device controller, but you need host and device software stacks on each respectively, and once you have the USB connection, implementing CDC/ACM is a somewhat inefficient use of the available bandwidth. The purpose of the CDC/ACM class is primarily to allow "legacy" software to work on a PC.
If you need to connect to a "real" serial port, you should use a real UART - which are far more ubiquitous than USB controllers on microcontrollers in any case.
You should learn a little bit about USB device classes. CDC is a USB device class, and ACM is a subclass that I assume you are using. The device you made could be called a "CDC ACM device" because it uses the CDC class and the ACM subclass.
These classes and subclasses are defined by the USB Implementers Forum in documents that you can find here:
http://www.usb.org/developers/docs/devclass_docs/
These documents specify things like what USB descriptors a CDC ACM device should have in order to describe itself to the host, and what kinds of interfaces and endpoints it should have, and how serial data will be represented in terms of USB transactions and transfers.
Note that CDC ACM only specifies some USB commands for transferring data between the host and the device. It does not specify what the device will actually do with that data. You can use CDC ACM to implement a USB-to-serial adapter, or you can just use it as a general purpose communication interface for whatever data you want to send.
Yes, you do need a driver on the PC side. The driver needs to be designed to run on your specific operating system. It needs to create some kind of virtual serial port device in your operating system that other software (which only knows about serial ports) can find and connect to. It needs to translate serial port operations performed by other software on the serial port (e.g. writing some bytes to the serial port) into low-level USB commands according to the CDC ACM specifications (e.g. sending some bytes out to the device on a particular endpoint in the form of USB packets). It needs to somehow know which USB devices it should operate on, since not every USB device is a CDC ACM device.
For Windows, you will probably use the usbser.sys driver which comes with Windows. For versions of Windows older than Windows 10, you will need to write an INF file to associate your device to usbser.sys and sign it. For Windows 10 and later, there is a new INF file called usbser.inf already included with Windows which will automatically match any valid CDC ACM device. This means you don't have to write or distribute a driver for CDC ACM devices if you only intend to support using the device on Windows 10 or later. The partnership between Microsoft and Arduino which began in 2015 gives me hope that Microsoft will continue supporting and improving usbser.sys in the future. In fact, they claim that in Windows 10 "the driver has been rewritten by using the Kernel-Mode Driver Framework that improves the overall stability of the driver", so that is good news.
For Linux, there is the cdc_acm kernel module, which has been a standard part of the kernel for a long time and should work automatically with any CDC ACM device you plug in.
For Mac OS X, there is the AppleUSBCDCACM driver, which should work automatically with any CDC ACM device you plug in.
Note that for any of these drivers to recognize your device and work with it, your device has to have certain values in its USB descriptors, and the requirements can vary depending on what exact driver version you are talking about.
Will the USB port now simply look like a serial port?
No, that's the wrong way to think about it. The USB port will still look like a USB port, but the various USB drivers provided by your operating system will recognize that a CDC ACM device is plugged into that port and create a new entry in your operating system's list of serial ports. Then if you run some software that only knows about serial ports, it can connect to that port.
In fact, if you make a composite device, you can have a single USB device plugged into a single USB port that actually has two or more virtual serial ports.
I need to communicate with some custom hardware that will use either a FTDI or Silicon Labs usb to serial driver.
I found a couple examples but they are older and was hoping for a more up to date example. Plus, I have been confused by the new AppleUSBFTDI kernel driver in how that works with the IOKit and other chips like the Silicon Labs part. It would be nice to have one program that doesn’t care which driver is used.
I have already looked at this example:
FTDI Communication with USB device - Objective C
The nature of these drivers and devices is that they are supposed to function as a standard serial port virtually over USB. So in terms of access it should be no different than accessing a standard RS232 COM port.
I would suggest reading the Serial Programming Guide for POSIX Operating Systems. I'm not sure what older examples you're seeing but serial access itself is many years old, but the idea behind communicating to the serial device is the same in the case of these USB to serial bridge devices.
For information on some Objective-C frameworks, take a look at this Stack Overflow post.
Finally, here is an article directly from the Apple documentation, Working With a Serial Device, and you'll see it also references the POSIX style API.
You should simply need to install the driver associated with your device and plug it in for this to work. In terms of the Silicon Labs CP210x device just download and install the OSX driver. Then plug in your device. This is where the one difference may show up, the name of the tty device on the system (it will show up in the /dev directory). In the case of the CP210x it will show up and be accessible as tty.SLAB_USBtoUART or cu.SLAB_USBtoUART. This will be the name of the device you should open, then use and API from above to start your communication.
I'm looking to control a bunch of LEDs from my computer, with a TI MSP430 or similar.
My computer is a Macbook Air, and so it looks like the only port I can communicate with is USB. The MSP430 has a USB port, but I can't find any information about using the USB port for anything besides programming the chip. Is there a way around this, to use USB to communicate with the board?
Thanks!
If you are using one of the processors with built in USB hardware then you should look at this Texas Instruments Page which describes the capabilities of the MSP USB. It includes links to the USB software stack that you will need to implement an HID class device.
I see two more options here. You can also use:
a) USB <-> LPT adapter to control the LEDs directly — in this case the schematics are extremely simple. See how it's done;
b) USB <-> COM or USB <-> RS232 adapter to communicate with the controller via RS232 — in this case you'll have to implement some simple protocol for communication with the controller, but the whole solution would still be much simpler than the one with USB.
The MSP430 Series 5 and Series 6 micro controllers (i.e. MSP430x6xx and MSP430x5xx) have built in USB modules that allow communication from PC and could be used to control the MSP430 via USB. Download the MSP430 USB Developers package here: http://www.ti.com/tool/msp430usbdevpack and use the USB CDC or HID API stacks to develop an application as per your requirements. In case you are using CDC(COM port) you may use a Terminal program to send the commands to control LEDs or if you use the HID stack, you may use the hidDemo PC software included in the Developers package to send/receive commands.
The rest of my team will make for my application a simple non-standard USB microphone, but until they finish it I will have to emulate it, for integration testing purposes.
Is there any risk in a physical loopback? Yes there is
Will a physical loopback work? Only with a USB bridge
There is any way to create a logical loopback? (MSDN has something about this)
There is any general purpose USB emulator software?
In case there is many options available I'd rather work it .NET/Matlab/Python solutions.
Edit: Proof of concept here
I strongly recommend this project, USB IP. It is a way of connecting USB devices over the network. There is a Windows client.
What this means is, you install the client on your Windows computer.
This device then expects to talk to a USB device connected to a Linux computer, the server:
What you now do, is either create a fake device driver for Linux, that looks like is connected to a physical USB device, but in reality is just logic pretending to be your USB device. There are tutorials for writing USB drivers for Linux. Or you create your own stub driver for the Device Control Manager (see picture above). This stub driver could run on Windows or Linux, it wouldn't matter. It could even run on the same Windows machine which is the USB client.
The DSF USB Loopback Device mentioned in the question itself, would be the same kind of solution as a stub driver for the Device Control Manager, but taking Linux out of the picture altogether.
You can write virtual USB device using QEMU.
You can duplicate already existing device, like the dev-serial.c found in this QEMU repository and change it for your needs.
After you write and compile your USB device you can simply attach it to your VM using the QEMU command line interface.