I have this issue, I want to know my rabbit is working great.
I am not gonna send the message, so, Im not 100% sure is being sent correctly. But the problem is this.
After all is configured and all....
I see at the RabbitMQ web manager
And when I supposedly send a message the I see activity on the "message rates" chart but nothing at the "queued messages" .
I frankly dont know whats going on, is it too fast that doesnt need to queue the messages? Or something is misconfigured?
Any idea of the difference?
Thanks.
In case RabbitMQ receive non-routable message it drop it. So while message was received, it was not queued.
You may configure Alternate Exchanges to catch such messages.
In my case,
Situation1:
when my Exchange in rabbitTemplate.convertAndSend was not set properly -- the message was not sent to the correct queue -- the Queued messages was empty all time.
however, Message rates is not zero, it does show there are message get sent.
Which correspond to what the other answer is saying:
In case RabbitMQ receive non-routable message it drop it.
Situation2:
when my Exchange in rabbitTemplate.convertAndSend was indeed set properly -- the message was sent to the correct queue -- the Queued messages was queuing up the message.
Everything seems fine.
Situation3:
(continue from Situation2)
And now, I turn on the receiver service which has the #RabbitListener.
The Queued messages immediately drops down to 0, and never goes up again.
But the transporting of messages is still working fine.
Situation4:
(continue from Situation2)
And now, I change the receiver service to use the rabbitTemplate.receiveAndConvert.
Which I manually receive the message from the queue every 2s by using a loop.
(message is also sent from sender service every 2s by using a loop, same as the situations before.)
Now, the Queued messages stays at constant -- a straight line
(depends on how many message you have queued up, in my case 1, before the receiver service is up, then it stays at 1).
Conclusion:
I suspect that, when the message is consumed too fast, the Queued messages will just show 0.
Which correspond to what the OP is saying:
is it too fast that doesnt need to queue the messages?
(or, I could screw up some setting in RabbitMQ and led to wrong conclusion. I dont think so, but idk, I am not familiar with RabbitMQ.)
Related
I am trying to use streams with redis using Reddison lib. I am using code StreamReadGroupArgs.neverDelivered() when receiving the messages. But if I don't ack it then the next time when readGroup is called it does not get those messages. The problem is that what if the node crashed or there was a glitch in network and I could not process those messages. Then even if I have not ack it I will not get those messages again. Is there a workaround for this or something else that I can do?
This is the correct behavior. Otherwise you will end up receiving redundant messages everytime.
Either you have to acknowledge or you have to explicitly ask redis to resend the messages which you have not acknowledged. For that StreamReadGroupArgs.neverDelivered() is not a correct option. Because it was already delivered. But you lost the message somehow.
Correct option for your use case is the below one which will send the messages which are not acknowledged.
StreamReadGroupArgs.greaterThan(new StreamMessageId(0))
I have a publisher that sends messages to a consumer that moves a motor.
The motor has a work queue which I cannot access, and it works slower than the rate of the incoming messages, so I'm trying to control the traffic on the consumer.
To keep updated and relevant data coming to the motor without the queue filling up and creating a traffic jam, I set the RabbitMQ queue size limit to 5 and basicQos to 1.
The idea is that the RabbitMQ queue will drop the old messages when it is filled up, so the newest commands are at the front of the queue.
Also by setting basicQos to 1 I ensure that the consumer doesn't grab all messages from the queue and bombards the motor at once, which is exactly what i'm trying to avoid since I can't do anything once the command was sent to the motor.
This way the consumer takes messages from the queue one by one, while new messages replace the old ones on the queue.
Practically this moves the bottleneck to the RabbitMQ queue instead of the motor's queue.
I also cannot check the motor's work queue, so all traffic control must be done on the consumer.
I added messageId and tested, and found out many messages are still coming and going long after the publisher is being shut down.
I'm expecting around 5 messages after shutdown since that's the size of the queue, but i'm getting hundreds.
I also added a few seconds of sleep inside the callback to make sure this isn't the robot queue that's acting up, but i'm still getting many messages after shutdown, and I can see in the logs the callback is being called every time so it's definitely still getting messages from somewhere.
Please help.
Thanks.
Moving the acknowledgment to the end of the callback solved the problem.
I'm guessing that by setting basicQos to 1 it did execute the callback for each message one after another, but in the background it kept grabbing messages from the queue.
So even when the publisher was shutdown, the consumer still had messages that were taken from the queue in it, and those messages were the ones that I saw being executed.
I'm trying to use RabbitMQ in a more unconventional way (though at this point i can pick any other message queue implementation if needed)
I have one queue (I can have more if needed) that where customers are fetching N messages asynchronous. After they do their work I send the results from the client to the db.
I have two problems: first I don't want that they will work on the same message, second I want to grantee that I wont lose messages in case that my customer will close the browser or just stop working.
I looked at the documentation and saw the TTL which was perfect for me if I could alter that message that got timeout isn't going to be deleted but to move to another queue. can't find a way to alter this.
Moreover I looked at the confirmation option which in the first glance looked what I wanted,that mechanism is working like this: when the consumer gets a message he send confirmation to queue, I thought I can delay this confirm and send it when the work is done on the client side.
my problem was that I can't program the queue that if any message didn't get confirm then return it to the queue (or to another).
I also find how to do a scheduled message but it didn't help either because I don't want that the message will be inserted to the queue in five min,I want that when a customer will receive a message it will be locked in the queue for 5 min until confirm to delete is set otherwise return it to the queue.
Can I do temporary queue that enables my mechanism?
If someone can help with one of the problems or suggest another architecture or option to do it in another MQ it would be great.
Resources:
confirmation:
http://www.rabbitmq.com/blog/2011/02/10/introducing-publisher-confirms/
post about locks but his problem was a batcher component:
Locks and batch fetch messages with RabbitMq
TTL:
https://www.rabbitmq.com/ttl.html
Schedule a message:
https://www.rabbitmq.com/blog/2015/04/16/scheduling-messages-with-rabbitmq/
my problem was that I can't program the queue that if any message
didnt get confirm then return it to the queue (or to another).
RabbitMQ does this anyhow, so all you have to do is switch off the auto-ack flag, you figured this out
I thought I can delay this confirm and send it when the work is done
on the client side.
so just send the ACK once you've finished with processing the message.
All the unacknowledged messages remain in the queue and are re-delivered to next consumer (or the same one when it's up again, depending on your setup)
I have observed RabbitMQ "stuck" with unacked messages. The queue shows a consumer which no longer exists, and I assume what's happening is that RabbitMQ is continuing to deliver messages to that consumer. They show as an ever-increasing count of unacked messages. I'm doing this in PHP with php-amqplib.
I can produce the problem by killing the consumer process (control-C on command line).
I tried specifying a heartbeat of 3 seconds and tried keep-alive both true and false. With heartbeat, the consumer will eventually fail:
Exception fwrite(): send of 573 bytes failed with errno=32 Broken pipe
PhpAmqpLib\Wire\IO\StreamIO->error_handler(8, 'fwrite(): send ...',
php-amqplib/PhpAmqpLib/Wire/IO/StreamIO.php(281): fwrite(Resource id #176, '\x01\x00\x01\x00\x00\x00\x15\x00<\x00(\x00\x00\fb...', 8192)
Issue #374 might relate: https://github.com/php-amqplib/php-amqplib/issues/374
The consumer is consuming from multiple queues, but I believe that shouldn't matter.
The problem I'm trying to solve is that RabbitMQ continues to think that a consumer exists when it doesn't, with the result that RabbitMQ delivers those messages nowhere, and they go unacknowledged. I'm looking for a way to get rid of that spurious connection so that those messages can be re-delivered to a live consumer. I think that's what heartbeat is for, but I haven't gotten it to work.
The first and more important think that we need to do in this case is try to "print" your content message, and only return true to consumer. Don't process your real code, if you can "consume" the messages the problem isn't in rabbit but in our process, because probably we expend to much time to acknowledge message to rabbit and Rabbit closes our connections.
I'm not saying that its you case, but I'm just trying to help debugging the problem.
In my case I change the approach of this problem, because I have many product ids(my case) for each message and its expend long time to ACK process cause they reach database, I fit my messages and it works well after do that.
We can change the approach like create another queues to fit this messages, I don't know, but 90% of problems is it.
You can read more about Detecting Dead TCP Connections with Heartbeats here
I am using RabbitMQ server.
For publishing messages, I set the immediate field to true and tried sending 50,000 messages. Using rabbitmqctl list_queues, I saw that the number of messages in the queue was zero.
Then, I changed the immediate flag to false and again tried sending 50,000 messages. Using rabbitmqctl list_queues, I saw that a total of 100,000 messages were in queues (till now, no consumer was present).
After that, I started a consumer and it consumed all the 100,000 messages.
Can anybody please help me in understanding about the immediate bit field and this behavior too? Also, I could not understand the concept of the mandatory bit field.
The immediate and mandatory fields are part of the AMQP specification, and are also covered in the RabbitMQ FAQ to clarify how its implementers interpreted their meaning:
Mandatory
This flag tells the server how to
react if a message cannot be routed to
a queue. Specifically, if mandatory is
set and after running the bindings the
message was placed on zero queues then
the message is returned to the sender
(with a basic.return). If mandatory
had not been set under the same
circumstances the server would
silently drop the message.
Or in my words, "Put this message on at least one queue. If you can't, send it back to me."
Immediate
For a message published with immediate
set, if a matching queue has ready
consumers then one of them will have
the message routed to it. If the lucky
consumer crashes before ack'ing
receipt the message will be requeued
and/or delivered to other consumers on
that queue (if there's no crash the
messaged is ack'ed and it's all done
as per normal). If, however, a
matching queue has zero ready
consumers the message will not be
enqueued for subsequent redelivery on
from that queue. Only if all of the
matching queues have no ready
consumers that the message is returned
to the sender (via basic.return).
Or in my words, "If there is at least one consumer connected to my queue that can take delivery of a message right this moment, deliver this message to them immediately. If there are no consumers connected then there's no point in having my message consumed later and they'll never see it. They snooze, they lose."
http://www.rabbitmq.com/blog/2012/11/19/breaking-things-with-rabbitmq-3-0/
Removal of "immediate" flag
What changed? We removed support for the
rarely-used "immediate" flag on AMQP's basic.publish.
Why on earth did you do that? Support for "immediate" made many parts
of the codebase more complex, particularly around mirrored queues. It
also stood in the way of our being able to deliver substantial
performance improvements in mirrored queues.
What do I need to do? If you just want to be able to publish messages
that will be dropped if they are not consumed immediately, you can
publish to a queue with a TTL of 0.
If you also need your publisher to be able to determine that this has
happened, you can also use the DLX feature to route such messages to
another queue, from which the publisher can consume them.
Just copied the announcement here for a quick reference.