Suppose I have a queue 'Q1' and there is are multiple producers publishing to this queue and multiple consumers reading from this queue.
Now, each consumer will process the message from 'Q1' and again put it in some other queue say 'Q2'/'Q3'.
How should be the channels assocaited with it? I have created a single producer channel which will publish to any queue(Q1 and Q2/Q3) and multiple consumer channels. Is it ok to work with a single producer channel or there would be some synchronization issues?
Generally the best practice is to have a channel for thread.
In case you use the same channel with more threads you should synchronize the access, there are client implementation that do it for you.
Now, if you use a single channel to publish to more queues is fine, but it should be serialized.
if you are looking for performance is better to have multi-threading publishers where each thread has his own channel.
The channel creation is very "cheap" in term of resource, so don't be afraid to use more channels.
The question is a bit generic, I hope it helps
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I have a hard time understanding the basic concepts of RabbitMQ. I find the online documentation not perfectly clear.
So far I understand, what a channel, a queue, a binding etc. is.
But how would the following use case be implemented:
Use Case: Sender posts to one exchange with different topics. On the receiver side, depending on the topic, different receivers should be notified.
So the following should somehow be feasible with a topic exchange:
create a channel
within this channel, create a topic exchange
for each topic to be subscribed to, create a queue and a queue binding with this topic as property
My difficulty is that the callback would be related to the channel, not to the queue or the queue binding. I am not 100 % sure if I am right here.
So that's my question: in order to have multiple callbacks, IOW: different message handlers, depending on the subscribed topic - do you have to create multiple channels, one for each "different message handling"? All these channels should grab the same exchange and define their own queue + queue binding for that specific topic?
Please confirm if this is correct or if I am straying from the canonic path of AMPQ ... "queue" sounds so light-weight, so I intuitively thought of a queue or a queue binding as the right point to attach a consuming event handler to, but it seems that, instead, channel is my friend in this. Right?
Another aspect of my question:
If I really have to use multiple channels for this, do I have to declare the same exchange (exchange name and exchange type of "topic") for each channel? I hoped there was something like:
define the exchange with this name and the type of "topic" once
for each channel, "grab" this predefined exchange and use it by adding queues and queue bindings to this exchange
I find it helpful to think about the roles of the broker (RabbitMQ) and the clients (your applications) separately.
The broker, RabbitMQ, will receive messages from your publishers, route them to queues, and eventually send them to consumers. The message routing can be simple or complex. In your case, the routing is topic based with a few different queues.
You haven't said much about the publishers, likely because their job is simple. They send messages with a routing key to RabbitMQ.
The consumer side is where things can get interesting. At the simplest level, a consumer subscribes to a queue, receives messages from RabbitMQ, and processes them. The consumer opens a connection to RabbitMQ and will use a channel for a particular use (e.g., subscribing to a queue). The power of message brokers is that they allow designers to break up processes into separate apps if desired.
You don't give much insight into your application, other than the presence of different message topics. An important design choice for you to make is how to define the application(s). Are the different topics suitable for separate applications, or will a single application handle all types of messages.
For the former case, you would have one application for each queue. A single channel that subscribes to the queue is probably the most sensible decision unless your application needs to be threaded. For threaded applications, each thread would have its own channel and all threads can be subscribed to the same queue. Each application would have its own callback function for processing that type of message.
For the latter case (single application with multiple queues), the best approach would be to have at least one channel per queue. It sounds like each queue would require its own callback function, and you would assign the functions to the channels according to its subscription. You might have multiple channels per queue if your application can process multiple messages (of each topic) simultaneously.
Regarding your question about declaring exchanges, queues, and bindings, these items only need to be created once. But it is reasonable practice to have your clients declare them at connection time. Advantages of declaring them are that they will be created again if they were deleted and that any discrepancies between your declaration and what is on the broker will trigger errors.
Saw similar questions but different expected answers. My question is can I can create a consumer to focus on a single queue until it empties then switch to the other queue, until new work is sent to their main queue?
For example: 1 queue contains large amount of work to be processed in longer time frame and its own dedicated consumers (3 for instance). The 2nd queue receives much less work that requires less processing. If the consumers for the 2nd queue complete their work can I make it so they switch to the first queue until their queue receives more work?
I think for this question, it's important to keep in mind that there is a difference between a "consumer" in the canonical sense vs. a "consumer" in the RabbitMQ sense.
A RabbitMQ Consumer is a contrivance of the protocol - basically, it is a designation that the channel/connection would like to have messages pushed to it, under a designated consumer tag. In this sense, it is merely a notification to the broker to immediately send messages.
In the canonical sense, a message consumer is any piece of code that processes messages.
So, the answer to your question is "yes, go ahead and write your program to do that." You have control over the canonical consumer code. It is up to your software to determine what to do with a message that arrives from a queue.
Now, if you're wondering if RabbitMQ can re-subscribe a consumer to a different queue, the answer is "that's not how it works." In RabbitMQ, a consumer is simply a response to a request to subscribe to a queue - it is a "consumer tag" object. The ongoing nature of the subscription is tied to the channel/connection pair.
What should you do? While your code doesn't specify any particular coding language, in my opinion, you're off-track by even asking this question. Subscribe to both queues. If there is nothing for the worker to do, I think the computer would be perfectly happy with that. If you're worried about a particularly busy queue issuing too much work, you can use a number of techniques to throttle messages coming into that consumer. One popular technique is prefetch.
I have a RabbitMQ setup with following configuration.
each Exchange is FANOUT type
Multiple Queue attached to each Exchange.
BlockingConnection is made by consumer.
Single Consumer to handle all callbacks.
Problem -
Some payload take longer time to process than others, which leads the consumer to stay idle even when there are payloads in other queue.
Question -
How should I implement the consumer to avoid long waits ? Should I
run separate consumer for each module ? any user experience ?
Can I configure RabbitMQ to handle these situations ? if so how.?
First it would be nice to know why do you have more than one fanout exchange? Do you really need this? Fanout exchange sends messages to all queues...
Just have more consumers. Check this example from rabbitmq tutorial.
You don't really need to configure rabbitmq explicitly, everything can be done with the clients (publishers and subscribers), you just need to figure out how many exchanges do you need and which type should they be etc.
First, what programming language are u using? Most common languages, such as python, java, c#, all support creating additional threads for parallel process.
Let's say you consume the queue like below (pseu code):
def callback(ch, method, properties, body) ...
def threaded_function(ch, method, properties, body) ...
channel.basic_qos(prefetch_count=3)
channel.basic_consume(callback, queue='task_queue')
channel.start_consuming()
first, setting "prefetch_count=3" allows your consumer to have at-most 3 messages in not-ack status concurrently.
In the callback method, you should start a thread for executing each message with threaded_function. At the end of the threaded_function method body, do:
ch.basic_ack(delivery_tag = method.delivery_tag)
so that, at-most 3 messages could be processed concurrently, even it takes longer time for one or two of the threads to run, the others could still process next messages.
I am starting with ActiveMQ and I have a usecase. i have n producers sending messages into a Queue Q1. I want to stop the delivery of messages (i.e. i do not want consumers to consume those messages). I want to store the messages for sometime without those being consumed.
I was looking at ways this can be achieved. These two things came into my mind based on what i browsed through.
Using Mirrored queues, so that I can wiretap the messages and save into a virtual queue.
Possibly stop consumers from doing a PULL on the queue.
Another dirty way of doing this is by making consumers not send ack messages once its consumed a message from the queue.
We are currently not happy with either of these.
Any other way you can suggest.
Thanks in advance.
If you always want message delivery to be delayed you can use the scheduler feature of ActiveMQ to delay delivery until a set time or a fixed delay etc.
Other strategies might also work but it really up to you to design something that fits your use case. You can try to use Apache Camel to define a route that implements the logic of your use case to either dispatch a message to a Queue or send it to the scheduler for delayed processing. It all really depends on your use case and requirements.
Pretty new to RabbitMQ and we're still in the investigation stage to see if it's a good fit for our use cases--
We've readily come to the conclusion that our desired topology would have us deploying a few topic based exchanges, and then filtering from there to specific queues. For example, let's say we have a user and an upload exchange, where the user queue might receive messages where the topic is "new-registration" or "friend-request" and the upload exchange might receive messages like "video-upload" or "picture-upload".
Creating the queues, getting them routed to the appropriate queue, and then building listeners to handle the messages for the various queues has been quite straight forward.
What's unclear to me however is if it's possible to do a fanout on a topic exchange?
I.e. I have named queues that are bound to my topic exchange, but I'd like to be able to just throw tons of instances of my listeners at those queues to prevent single points of failure. But to the best of my knowledge, RabbitMQ treats these listeners in a straight forward round robin fashion--e.g. every Nth message always go to the same Nth listener rather than dispatching messages to the first available consumer. This is generally acceptable to us but given the load we anticipate, we'd like to avoid the possibility of hot spots developing amongst our consumer farm.
So, is there some way, either in the queue or exchange configuration or in the consumer code, where we can point our listeners to a topic queue but have the listeners treated in a fanout fashion?
Yes, by having the listeners bind using different queue names, they will be treated in a fanout fashion.
Fanout is 1:N though, i.e. each task can be delivered to multiple listeners like pub-sub. Note that this isn't restricted to a fanout exchange, but also applies if you bind multiple queues to a direct or topic exchange with the same binding key. (Installing the management plugin and looking at the exchanges there may be useful to visualize the bindings in effect.)
Your current setup is a task queue. Each task/message is delivered to exactly one worker/listener. Throw more listeners at the same queue name, and they will process the tasks round-robin as you say. With "fanout" (separate queues for a topic) you will process a task multiple times.
Depending on your platform there may be existing work queue solutions that meet your requirements, such as Resque or DelayedJob for Ruby, Celery for Python or perhaps Octobot or Akka for the JVM.
I don't know for a fact, but I strongly suspect that RabbitMQ will skip consumers with unacknowledged messages, so it should never bottleneck on a single stuck consumer. The comments on their FAQ seem to suggest that RabbitMQ will make an effort to keep things chugging along even in the presence of troublesome consumers.
This is a late answer, but in case others come across this question...
It sounds like what you want is fair dispatch rather than a fan out model (which would publish a given message to every queue).
Fair dispatch will give a message to the next available worker rather than using a simple round-robin approach. This should avoid the "hotspots" you are concerned about, without delivering the same message to multiple consumers.
If this is what you are looking for, then see the "Fair Dispatch" section on this page in the Rabbit docs. A prefetch count of 1 is the key here.