EasyRTC is a open source webRTC plugin used for many purpose.
My intention is to prepare a video chatting example using this. When I try this with same network connection (same wifi) it works like a charm, but when I try this with different wifi network its not working instead its through errors like
No usable STUN/TURN path -- in client end
undefined -- in initiator end.
Is there is any configuration I need to change to make this working.
Thanks in advance
Mtbikemike has called it.
The general experiment is trying using the demos at demo.easyrtc.com. They are backed by a turn server. If they work across networks and your own doesn't, then it's probably a challenging network that needs a turn server. Turn servers don't punch holes so much as they act as packet relays.
EasyRTC is an open source bundle of a signalling server, a Javascript client and some demonstration code, rather than a plugin. If you've got a firewall between you and the other party then you'll need a TURN server. We do have a TURN server backing the demo.easyrtc.com demos on our servers. We are working on putting together a paid TURN service specifically designed for EasyRTC. Should be available in the next month or so. For now you could look into using a TURN service from Xirsys or put up you own TURN server in the cloud or on your premise but outside the firewall.
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These days, I'm really into webRTC technology, and I've been studying webRTC. But, I'm faced with a problem.
I understand that webRTC is using the ICE framework, which has TURN, STUN sever for relay and signaling. But as this article said, webRTC doesn't need a TURN server.
So I'm really curious whether it is possible to connect successfully every time without a TURN sever?
If it is, please tell me the way, and if it isn't, how often are peers using the TURN server in average?
Thank you.
(PS, Azar (one of the biggest apps using webRTC) also said they don't use the TURN sever on their website)
Yes it's possible to connect without a TURN server. Every time? Yes. Everyone? No. Because firewalls.
The Holy Grail of WebRTC is a direct client-to-client network connection without going through an intermediary server (a relay).
TURN is an intermediary server. It's used as a fallback when peers are behind symmetric NATs.
Negotiating this, is the purpose of ICE. There are articles written on how, but in short, "ICE agents" (browsers) collaborate on both ends, communicating through your JS signaling channel, to poke holes from inside the firewall on each end to connect up.
This related answer suggests TURN usage is ~20%.
STUN is not a relay, but merely a mirror server for agents to learn their own external IPs.
I have developed a WebRTC based application along with Kurento-Media-Server.
Problems with this application is:
It works but only on open network (i.e. if run on a network without firewall).
When in firewall it runs sometimes (once out of 10 attempts).
I have tried several things with the firewall, I have disabled all kind of incoming/outgoing traffic. I have created a port-forwarding for my application as well as Kurento-media server.
I am not sure how much useful this information might be but I am deploying my
application on the same physical box along with Kurento-Media-Server. I have configured google's STUN server on my client.js, I have also configured same STUN servers on kurento using code. I haven't configured TURN server.
Just confirming this, signaling server can be behind firewall along with rest of the application, correct?
I am not sure what to look for now, any help in this area would be great.
EDIT-1
From this link I learned that my current network on which my isn't working it has issues with plain websocket connection, it doesn't allow it, it only allows secure Websocket connections.
EDIT-2
Image of netscan:
In my phone network where my app works fine I see all greens in Websocket's "plain" column.
EDIT-3 Solved
Finally found the problem, We were using a router for testing and development and I found that the router had issues, I used LAN cable on the same router and everything worked fine. Calls from application were working just fine. Firewall related details help in configuring the firewall later on.
Based on your problem description it seems all the UDP traffic is not open in your firewall. WebRTC media run on UDP ports.As you mentioned it works one out of 10 times whch means only few UDP ports are open in your firewall.You are lucky when traffic comes via tose ports.You can open port-range in your firewall and configure the same in kurento-media-server config.Your job should be done.
Even if you configure TURN server you need to open certain ports for outgoing and incoming UDP traffic.For TURN server default port is 3478 or 8443 for sending data towards it but for incoming traffic you need to configure port-range on your TURN server and open those ports in your firewall. Always remember TURN server is assured way to connect but it's always costly.
I want to implement webrtc server in my project. I want to make my own webrtc server and deploy it in amazon server. How can I achieve this?
WebRTC is a peer-to-peer protocol so you don't need a server for this.
You will need a signaling server for session negotiation. How you'll implement this depends on the technology that you'll use - client side: polling, ajax, websockets, stomp etc and server side.
For STUN/TURN you can deploy an existing server or use RFC and develop your own from scratch.
#Adrian Ber is correct, you need a signalling server such as this one:
https://github.com/peers/peerjs-server
You can set one of these up on AWS
You'll also need some code on the client side. There is a matching javascript client library (which does most of the work) here: http://peerjs.com/
There are some examples on the peerjs web site - they either need to be run on your local machine or on https servers (browsers will no longer allow camera access over http)
Ignore the people saying that WebRTC is peer to peer only. There is no reason why you can't implement an application, run it on a server, and treat it as a 'peer' for the sake of webRTC when it is actually a server.
That said, we've looked into pulling the WebRTC implementation out of Chrome, but it is a huge task. Depending on what you want to do, you will likely only need to support a subset of WebRTC functionality (Data channel / unreliable for example if you're doing a multiplayer web game).
There might be a few implementations out there that have cropped up now, but last I checked there wasn't anything of note.
WebRTC signalling is driving me crazy. My use-case is quite simple: a bidirectional audio intercom between a kiosk and to a control room webapp. Both computers are on the same network. Neither has internet access, all machines have known static IPs.
Everything I read wants me to use STUN/TURN/ICE servers. The acronyms for this is endless, contributing to my migraine but if this were a standard application, I'd just open a port, tell the other client about it (I can do this via the webapp if I need to) and have the other connect.
Can I do this with WebRTC? Without running a dozen signalling servers?
For the sake of examples, how would you connect a browser running on 192.168.0.101 to one running on 192.168.0.102?
STUN/TURN is different from signaling.
STUN/TURN in WebRTC are used to gather ICE candidates. Signaling is used to transmit between these two PCs the session description (offer and answer).
You can use free STUN server (like stun.l.google.com or stun.services.mozilla.org). There are also free TURN servers, but not too many (these are resource expensive). One is numb.vigenie.ca.
Now there's no signaling server, because these are custom and can be done in many ways. Here's an article that I wrote. I ended up using Stomp now on client side and Spring on server side.
I guess you can tamper with SDP and inject the ICE candidates statically, but you'll still need to exchange SDP (and that's dinamycally generated each session) between these two PCs somehow. Even though, taking into account that the configuration will not change, I guess you can exchange it once (through the means of copy-paste :) ), stored it somewhere and use it every time.
If your end-points have static IPs then you can ignore STUN, TURN and ICE, which are just power-tools to drill holes in firewalls. Most people aren't that lucky.
Due to how WebRTC is structured, end-points do need a way to exchange call setup information (SDP) like media ports and key information ahead of time. How you get that information from A to B and back to A, is entirely up to you ("signaling server" is just a fancy word for this), but most people use something like a web socket server, the tic-tac-toe of client-initiated communication.
I think the simplest way to make this work on a private network without an internet connection is to install a basic web socket server on one of the machines.
As an example I recommend the very simple https://github.com/emannion/webrtc-web-socket which worked on my private network without an internet connection.
Follow the instructions to install the web socket server on e.g. 192.168.1.101, then have both end-points connect to 192.168.0.101:1337 with Chrome or Firefox. Share camera on both ends in the basic demo web UI, and hit Connect and you should be good to go.
If you need to do this entirely without any server, then this answer to a related question at least highlights the information you'd need to send across (in a cut'n'paste demo).
My task is to write a Messenger program for both internal and external staffs, I actually made it. However, I thing this is really not a good approach by using the client software keep "check-mesg" from server. So I think I am just simulating the IM program.
I want to make the client app become a listening server, and let user p2p talking without a "mesg-centre" at the main server(unless offline mesg happen). The question is how do I tell the external user ( other client app ) my location while I am behind a router ?
Are those other IM programs running on the client machine as a server too? and how do they get through ?
Thanks in advance!
It's quite complicated to connect to systems behind a router and not always possible. A well-documented way to do this with UDP is the STUN protocol (used mainly for SIP-based VoIP). If it is not possible to get behind the router, you can only use a server in the open network as intermediator (some P2P systems also promote well-connected peers to such intermediators). SIP uses TURN for as intermediator protocol. SIP's protocol to find out the right solution for a client is ICE.
See also NAT traversal.