SSL instead SAML [duplicate] - authentication

Don't know much about encryption...
Say I'm preparing a SAML request to submit to an identity provider. Why would I need to apply an x.509 certificate to this request? Is transmission over SSL alone not secure enough?

In the case of SAML, message-level security (i.e. the XML itself is signed and sometimes encrypted) because the communication involves parties that don't communicate directly. SSL/TLS is for transport-level security, only used between the two parties that are communicating directly and for the duration of this communication only.
Depending on which SAML binding you use, the dialog can look like this (e.g. along the lines of Shibboleth):
User's browser connects to Service Provider (SP)
SP gives the user a SAML request, not necessarily visible, but hidden within a form or equivalent.
User's browser (in a direct connection to the IdP) sends the SAML request to the IdP.
The user authenticates with it and gets a SAML response back.
The user's browser sends that SAML response to the SP.
In this scenario, there is no direct SSL/TLS connection between the SP and the IdP, although all 3 parties are involved. (Some variants of this involve a back-end communication between SP and IdP for attributes, but that's a different problem.)
An SSL/TLS connection wouldn't be sufficient for the IdP to know that the SAML request came from an SP for which it's allowed to authenticate and release attribute, since the connection to the IdP comes from the user's browser, not the SP itself. For this reason, the SP must sign the SAML request message before handing it to the user's browser.
An SSL/TLS connection wouldn't be sufficient for the SP to know the SAML response came from an IdP it trusts. Again, that's why the SAML response itself is also signed.
What applies to signing also applies to encryption, if the middle party, i.e. the user, isn't meant to see what's in the SAML message and/or if the connection between the user and the SP or IdP isn't over SSL/TLS (usually, it should be over HTTPS).

Yes - SSL is enough - but SSL is only point-to-point. You cannot secure your connection using SSL if there are a few intermediaries in the way between your source and your target machine.
In that case, e.g. when transmitting over the internet, you must safeguard the actual message, instead of the transport-level. That's why you need to encrypt the XML (or at least parts of it).
Marc

All that HTTPS will do is encrypt the communication between two points and prevent eavesdroppers -- it won't confirm who it was that sent the message. Neither will it assure secure communication if your message is then forwarded.
If you sign your request with the X.509 certificate you can be assured the decryptor has the shared secret contained in certificate. In other words, you can be assured the message can only be decrypted by the organisation you want it to be decrypted by.
In your case, the X.509 encryption requirement means that you should be assured that the identity provider is the only organisation that will receive your request.
A useful Wikipedia primer is here.

Most likely because they want to authenticate you (the client). HTTPS can be used for client authentication, but it rarely is in practice.

In practice, you could use HTTPS (SSL/TLS) to protect your SAML message. But you would want to use two-way SSL certificate verification/validation, meaning your client would need to verify the server's X.509 certificate and the server would need to be configured to perform client authentication, which would require it to check an X.509 certificate that the client presents. So, the client would need its own certificate anyway.
SSL/TLS is not really designed for this...it was/is designed to protect web traffic from being seen while in transport and for the client to be able to tell what server they are talking to and sending sensitive information to (it was really designed for e-commerce where the client (user buying something) knows who they are sending their credit card information to). In the case of SAML, the whole point is for the parties to know that the information they are exchanging has not been altered in transport and that each is talking to who they think they are. Using certificates to sign/encrypt that message itself accomplishes that.

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Restrict endpoint to specific caller

I'm working with an old legacy app at work that's written in ASP.NET 4. We recently started migrating to the cloud and we had to expose one of the endpoints so that our api gateway (Apigee) can call it. What is the correct way to restrict this endpoint so that it only allows calls from Apigee? I'm aware 2-way-ssl should solve this issue but that requires changes on the Apigee side and we don't have control over that. Is there something I can do on the API side to confirm that the certificate in the request is specifically from Apigee?
You're describing the need for what is sometimes called 'southbound' authentication. Specifically mutual-TLS sometimes called client authentication, as opposed to standard (or one-way) TLS where only the server is being authenticated by the calling client. You're right: mTLS (a.k.a., "two-way SSL") is one means to allow your back-end server to authenticate the calling Apigee-layer 'client'.
When you want client authentication via TLS (mTLS) you need to configure your back-end server endpoint to require mTLS at the time of the handshake, and to have stored in its Truststore the signing CA certificate of the client certificate you expect to see offered up by the calling client at time of connection. Done right, your server
requires mTLS and shuts down the handshake if the client won't
offer a client cert,
validates the client cert is authentic as being issued by a recognized signing CA (Truststore), and
is the actual client cert expected to be seen (e.g., by matching the expected distinguished name).
Here's an authoritative support-community article about doing all this, within Apigee: https://community.apigee.com/questions/63337/mutual-tls-between-client-to-edge-and-edge-to-back.html

Difference between SSL and JWT

I've been reading and trying to comprehend the differences in browser side security. From what I gather, SSL is used to keep people from sniffing the traffic you send to the server. This allows you to send a password to a server in clear text...right? As long as you are in an SSL encrypted session you don't have to worry about hashing the password first or anything weird, just send it straight to the server along with the username. After the user authenticates you send them back a JWT and then all future requests to the server should include this JWT assuming they are trying to access a secured area. This allows the server to not even have to check the password, all the server does is verify the signature and that's all the server cares about. As long as the signature is verified you give the client whatever info they are requesting. Have I missed something?
You are correct. "This allows the server not to even have to check the password." Why would you have to check a password on each request?
A JWT is a means of verifying authentication. It is generated upon a successful authentication request and hence forth passed with each request to let the server know this user is authenticated.
It can be used to store arbitrary values such as user_id or api_key but they are not very secure so don't store any valuable information here.
Be wary though, if a plain JWT is intercepted by a third party, it can assume this user's session and possible data.
SSL is a lower level form of security, encrypting every request from and to the server to prevent interception and retains integrity.
SSL is achieved by (purchasing) an SSL certificate and installing it on your server. Basically an SSL certificate is a small data file that binds a cryptographic key to an 'organisation'. Once installed succesfully, HTTPS requests (on port 443 by default) are possible.

WCF transport security and https

I'm trying to understand more why I shouldn't use WCF transport security over the internet. From the answer here I'm told the chain of hops may not be secure. But isn't transport security just like https (which is widely used on the internet)? Or maybe I should ask, what is the difference between wcf transport and https?
If I need to explain myself clearer, please comment.
Thanks
Transport security is indeed very similar to HTTPS (and identical in many cases). What it provides you is an encrypted tunnel between your client and the server. Providing there's a direct connection from your client to your server, it's perfectly fine (providing that your client verifies that it got the right server certificate). If your client is talking to another intermediate server, on which you rely to pass the message to your server - then that intermediate server would get unencrypted data.
An example :
You have a company that processes payments. Because of some regulations, you need servers in each country, and those in turn pass the requests to your main server in the US.
You want to make sure that even if the local hosting company tries to find out what details are being passed, they can't.
That is what Message Security provides you - you trust only the client and your main servers, so you want only them to be able to encrypt and decrypt.
With Transport Security, there would be two transitions - the client will encrypt, and the intermediate server will decrypt. Then it will encrypt again, and your main servers will decrypt. As you can see, there is an intermediate phase where the data is plain in RAM in the intermediate server.
This MSDN article describes it very well, and where to use each :
MSDN
Look at another answer on the link you gave. It explains that the case where transport security not sufficient is when the client doesn't check server certificate. I quoted the answer below:
Yes it is 100% secure when the clients (which most clients do) validate the server certificate.
The multiple hop scenario mentioned here is complete bogus. This is only true when the same message travels through various applications. Like for example several application brokers. If these brokers do not communicate securely then the message can be read by intermediate network sniffers.
In other words, client/server communication over the internet is 100% secure even when there are a million routers in between but it is only secure when the client validates the server certificate as the client could connect to a man-in-the-middle host that could impersonate the server with a false certificate. If the client does not validate the certificate the message could be compromised.
I'm trying to understand more why I shouldn't use WCF transport security over the internet
You should not because (Quoting from here).
Transport Security
Transport security is used to provide point-to-point security between the two endpoints (service and client). If there are intermediary systems between client and the service, each intermediate point must forward the message over a new SSL connection.
Message Security
When using message security, the user credentials and claims are encapsulated in every message using the WS-Security specification to secure messages. This option gives the most flexibility from an authentication perspective. You can use any type of security credentials you want, largely independent of transport, as long as both the client and service agree.

.Net web api, SSL + basic auth

I have multiple sets of sensor networks that are sending data to a .net web api. Somehow, I need to secure some of the endpoints of the API (so that I can be certain that the information sent to the API really is from the sensors). Basic auth and SSL seems to be one way to go. The problem is that I'm having trouble understanding the SSL part.
As of now I have created a client certificate that is stored on the sensors, information of the certificate can be retrieved in the API by the Request.GetClientCertificate() method. Is this overkill when I just want to secure my Api with basic auth? That is, is the communication secure by just sending data over https without providing a certificate?
I do not need to use the certificate for authentication (since this is done by basic auth).
Basic authentication is about sending the user name and password in the HTTP authorization header as plain text (base64 encoded but not encrypted). For this reason, you need to use HTTPS with basic authn so that folks in the middle do not get to see the user name and password that a client sends.
When it comes to HTTPS, there is a server certificate and a client certificate. Server sends the server certificate to the client so that client can determine it is the right server it is connecting to. Similarly, a client can send a client certificate to the server so that a server can determine if an authentic client is talking to it.
The client certificate part is optional in HTTPS. So, you can use basic authentication without using the client certificate. If you use client certificate, it is already a credential and you need not use basic authentication, unless you want to use a two-factor authentication. TFA is an overkill or not - it is for you to decide.

ADFS 2.0. Figuring out purporse and value of each X.509 certificate

I'm new to all this security features, and recently I was asked to look into ADFS 2.0. I found ADFS uses the following types of X.509 certificates to communicate with Relying Party (RP):
Common for all RPs:
1) Service communication
2) Token-signing
3) Token-decrypting
Specific for RP:
4) Encryption certificate
Help me out please to figure out which one is really important and needed in a real-life production scenario where all 3 parts are involved: user, service provider (our company), IdP(ADFS) (on customer's server).
1) What I found regarding first certificate in MS help: "This is the same certificate that a federation server uses as the SSL certificate in Internet Information Services (IIS)" I'm not sure it's true coz I was able to replace them separately not affecting each other so they definitely might function in parallel. So no idea what this certificate is needed for.
2) Second one is for signing up issued tokens so that RP is able to make sure the token is really issued by trusted ADFS, not intercepted, right?
3) Third one is probably for reverse purposes: ADFS makes sure the message is really from trusted RP.
4) Encryption certificate for specific RP helps encrypt whole message (token), so that even if you got https public key and intercept a message from ADFS, you can not read it not having other public key which supposed to be only know to RP, correct?
Correct me if I'm wrong please.
All this certificates are optional and Micorosoft says nothing about importance of which, the only mention I cound in WIF SDK help saying it's better to use token encryption certificate in real life. The thing is we have HTTPS protocol being established for ADFS-RP communication (IIS is set up to use https on both sides). Is not it enough for secure communication? I wonder: do we really need 2), 3) and even 4)?
In a real life scenario, you have at least two:
1.) SSL certificate - just common sense nowadays, and recommended by the SAML 2.0 SSO profile. This could be the same certificate as IIS that's front-ending ADFS.
2.) Token signing / verification (not "decrypting") certificate - required to conform to SAML 2.0 profiles that use "front channel bindings" (HTTP Redirect/POST). If you're the Identity Provider (IdP) then you'll have the private signing key - if not, just the certificate (w public verification key). Indeed this is to verify that the assertions have been issued by a trusted party, and not tampered with. It is absolutely critical for federation otherwise anyone can forge their way into your environment (as the SP (RP)).
An encryption certificate would indeed be used to encrypt portions of your SAML messages - which is common if you're trying to hide information that may be passed via a user's browser (like sensitive attributes within a SAML Assertion's Attribute Statement).
1 and 2 are mandatory.
ADFS will not let you add a RP binding via importing metadata if it's not a https connection.
The definition of a claim is "A statement about a subject; for example, a name, identity, key, group, permission, or capability, made by one subject about itself or another subject. Claims are given one or more values and then packaged in security tokens that are issued by a security token service (STS)". To ensure the validity of the token it needs to be signed.
Whether the token itself is encrypted depend on the security requirements.