In the most part of tutorials mentioned that publisher and subscriber should have different queues. Why so?
Will it work with one queue?
MassTransit will not work with multiple bus instances assigned to a queue. Each instance will just grab the next message - so each bus will gobble up the other bus' messages. This ends up in a bad place. If there is no consumer registered for a given message type, then the message is rejected to the error queue. It often leaves you with errors and no indication as to why things are erroring or messages aren't showing up right.
Now if you are doing competing consumers for load balancing you could have multiple buses on the same queue - but they should be exact copies of each other and only done for load balancing.
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I have a RabbitMQ setup in which jobs are sent to an exchange, which passes them to a queue. A consumer carries out the jobs from the queue correctly in turn. However, these jobs are long processes (several minutes at least). For scalability, I need to be able to have multiple consumers picking a job from the top of the queue and executing it.
The consumer is running on a Heroku dyno called 'queue'. When I scale the dyno, it appears to create additional consumers for each dyno (I can see these on the RabbitMQ dashboard). However, the number of tasks in the queue is unchanged - the extra consumers appear to be doing nothing. Please see the picture below to understand my setup.
Am I missing something here?
Why are the consumers showing as 'idle'? I know from my logs that at least one consumer is actively working through a task.
How can my consumer utilisation be 0% when at least one consumer is definitely working hard.
How can I make the other three consumers actually pull some jobs from the queue?
Thanks
EDIT: I've discovered that the round robin dispatching is actually working, but only if the additional consumers are already running when the messages are sent to the queue. This seems like counterintuitive behaviour to me. If I saw a large queue and wanted to add more consumers, the added consumers would do nothing until more items are added to the queue.
To pick out the key point from the other answer, the likely culprit here is pre-fetching, as described under "Consumer Acknowledgements and Publisher Confirms".
Rather than delivering one message at a time and waiting for it to be acknowledged, the server will send batches to the consumer. If the consumer acknowledges some but then crashes, the remaining messages will be sent to a different consumer; but if the consumer is still running, the unacknowledged messages won't be sent to any new consumer.
This explains the behaviour you're seeing:
You create the queue, and deliver some messages to it, with no consumer running.
You run a single consumer, and it pre-fetches all the messages on the queue.
You run a second consumer; although the queue isn't empty, all the messages are marked as sent to the first consumer, awaiting acknowledgement; so the second consumer sits idle.
A new message arrives in the queue; it is distributed in round-robin fashion to the second consumer.
The solution is to specify the basic.qos option in the consumer. If you set this to 1, RabbitMQ won't send a message to a consumer until it has acknowledged the previous message; multiple consumers with that setting will receive messages in strictly round-robin fashion.
I am not familiar to Heroku, so I don't know how Heroku worker build rabbitMQ consumer, I just have a quick view over Heroku document.
Why are the consumers showing as 'idle'?
I think your mean the queue is 'idle'? Because the queue's state is about the queue's traffic, it just means there is not on-doing job for the queue's job thread. And it will become 'running' when a message is published in the queue.
How can my consumer utilisation be 0% when at least one consumer is definitely working hard.
The same as queue state, from official explanation, consumer utilisation too low means:
There were more consumers
The consumers were faster
The consumers had a higher prefetch count
In your situation, prefetch_count = 0 means no limits on prefetch, so it's too large. And Messages.total = Messages.unacked = 78 means your consumer is too slow, there are two many messages have been processed by consumer.
So if your message rate is not large enough, the state and consumer utilisation field of the queue is useless.
If I saw a large queue and wanted to add more consumers, the added consumers would do nothing until more items are added to the queue.
Because these unacked messages have already been prefetched by exist consumers, they will not be consumed by new consumers unless you requeue the unacked messages.
I have a producer and a consumer. Multiple instances of the consumer are running. When producer publishes a message, my intention is to consume the message by all the instances. So, I am using the direct exchange. Producer publishes a message to the direct exchange with a topic. Consumers are listening to that topic with the exclusive queue. This process is working fine when the consumer is up and producer publishes a message. But when consumers are down and producer publishes a message, consumers are not consuming this message when up.
I googled about the issue. A suggestion was to use named queue. But if I use named queue, messages will be consumed following the round-robin algorithm. That does not meet my expectation to consume the same message by all the consumers.
Is there any other solution?
Appreciated your help.
There are two solutions to your issue.
Using named queue is one of them.
Set your exchange in fanout mode and subscribe your named queues to it. Doing so, when a publisher send a message in your exchange, it will be dispatched to all the queues listening.
You can then have one or more consumer for each queue (allowing you to scale). You'll have to define a named queue / consumer. When one consumer disconnect, his queue still receive messages and when he comes back he can consume them.
You should be able to do what you want that way.
The other way is more for your personnal knowledge since you said you want to use RabbitMQ. But in that particular case you could use Kafkha, your consummer could then, after reconnection, resume at the message index he was when he disconnected.
Please update me if it doesn't work :)
We're seeing an issue where consumers of our message queues are picking up messages from queues at the top of the alphabetical range. We have two applications: a producer, and a subscriber. We're using RabbitMQ 3.6.1.
Let's say that the message queues are setup like so:
Our first application, the producer, puts say 100 messages/second onto each queue:
Our second application, the subscriber, has five unique consumer methods that can deal with messages on each respective queue. Each method binds to it's respective queue. A subscriber has a prefetch of 1 meaning it can only hold one message at a time, regardless of queue. We may run numerous instances of the subscriber like so:
So the situation is thus: each queue is receiving 100 msg/sec, and we have four instances of subscriber consuming these messages, so each queue has four consumers. Let's say that the consumer methods can deal with 25 msg/sec each.
What happens is that instead of all the queues being consumed equally, the alphabetically higher queues instead get priority. It's seems as though when the subscriber becomes ready, RabbitMQ looks down the list of queues that this particular ready channel is bound to, and picks the first queue with pending messages.
In our situation, A_QUEUE will have every message consumed. B_QUEUE may have some consumed in certain race conditions, but C_QUEUE/D_QUEUE and especially E_QUEUE will rarely get touched.
If we turn off the publisher, the queues will eventually drain, top to bottom.
Is it possible to configure either RabbitMQ itself or possibly even the channel to use some sort of round robin distribution policy or maybe even random policy so that when a channel has numerous bound queues, all with messages pending, the distribution is even?
to clarify: you have a single subscriber application with multiple consumers in it, right?
I'm guessing you're using a single RabbitMQ Connection within the subscriber app.
Are you also re-using a single RabbitMQ Channel for all of your consumers? If so, that would be a problem. Be sure to use a new Channel for each consumer you start.
Maybe the picture is wrong, but if it's not then your setup is wrong. You don't need 4 queues if you are going to have subscribers that listen to each and every queue. You'd just need one queue, that has multiple instances of the same subscriber consuming from it.
Now to answer, yes (but no need to configure, as long as prefetch is 1), actually rabbitmq does distribute messages evenly. You can find about about that here, and on the same place actually how your setup should look like. Here is a quote from the link.
RabbitMQ just dispatches a message when the message enters the queue.
It doesn't look at the number of unacknowledged messages for a
consumer. It just blindly dispatches every n-th message to the n-th
consumer.
I'm interacting with ActiveMQ via STOMP. I have one application which publishes messages and a second application which subscribes and processes the messages.
If I am writing messages to a queue I can be certain that, if I have two consumers, each message will only be processed once (because when a message is completed it is removed from the queue) - but is this functionality available from a topic?
For example; I have a third application which is a logger. I want the logger to receive each message the publisher emits, but I also want exactly one of two (or three or four etc…) of the processors to receive the message too.
Is this possible?
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It occurs to me that a good way of doing this would be to have a topic which the publisher writes to, and a queue which the processors listen to, with something pushing every message from the topic onto the queue. Can ApacheMQ do this internally?
You can do this internally in ActiveMQ using Mirrored Queues and also use Virtual Topics for some other advanced routing semantics. If you want to have the option of other EIP type messaging patterns then I'd recommend you look into Apache Camel which provides a whole host of EIP pattern functionality.
Does anyone know if the pop operation on a RabbitMQ queue is atomic?
I have several processes reading from the same queue (the queue is marked as durable, running on version 2.0.0) and I am seeing some quite odd behaviour.
If your multiple processes are consuming messages from the same queue then they should never consume the same message.
Here are the caveats, though:
If a message has been delivered by the broker to one of your consumers and it rejects the message (or terminates before getting a chance to acknowledge it) then the broker will put it back on the same queue and it would be delivered to one of your remaining active consumers.
If your consumers are pulling from distinct queues -- each with a matching binding -- then the broker will put copies of the message on each queue and each consumer will get a copy of the same message.