Can I detect the SSL version that a browser supports? - ssl

I would like to display a message to customers who's browser's highest level of encryption is SSLv3. Is it possible for me to target browser settings of SSLv3 and lower? Client or Server code? We will be allowing lower versions of SSL to use our site during a certain grace period. During this grace period, we would like to display a message only to those users that have browser settings of SSL3 or lower.

Not easily. The browser's supported SSL versions are not detectable until the SSL handshake is in progress, and even then only if the browser uses an SSLv2 handshake to allow dynamic version negotiation. If an unsupported version were detected, you would not be able to send a message back since the handshake failed and the connection would be closed before you could send any message. However, SSL itself has an error packet that gets sent during handshaking, and it can specify a version mismatch error.
The best you can do in your own code is support all SSL versions on the server side, let the client complete a handshake normally, and then detect which version was actually used and send back a message if the SSL version is too low.
Or, you could simply enable TLSv1 or higher only, and simply refuse to let older clients connect at all. They just would not get a nice error message unless the browser decided to detect the SSL version mismatch error and display its own pretty message about it.

Firstly, nowadays, you can generally forget about clients that don't support at least SSLv3. SSLv3 has been widely available for many years.
The TLS Client Hello message, sent when the connection is initiated by the browser, should contain the highest TLS version it supports:
client_version
The version of the TLS protocol by which the client wishes to
communicate during this session. This SHOULD be the latest
(highest valued) version supported by the client. For this
version of the specification, the version will be 3.3 (see
Appendix E for details about backward compatibility).
Appendix E is of course worth looking at.
(The Client Hello message will also contain the list of cipher suites the client supports, which is possibly relevant for the general idea of your question.)
Of course, this specification is just a "SHOULD", so a client supporting TLS 1.2 could still send a Client Hello for TLS 1.1, but what would be the point? By doing so it would have no chance ever to use TLS 1.2 anyway. It could be a preference box that is turned off, but that would effectively make it a client that doesn't support the highest version anyway. (If you want anything more subtle, you'd need to build a database of known user agents, which will be partly unreliable, and for which you'd need to analyse the full user agent string to know everything possible about the platform.)
Now, how to convey the content of the Client Hello message to your application is another matter, and depends very much on which SSL/TLS stack you use. It might not even be directly possible without modifying that SSL/TLS library or the server you're using.
This being said, you can generally get the negotiated TLS version during the current session quite easily. Since that version is the "lower of that suggested by the client in the client hello and the highest supported by the server" (i.e. "min(max(client), max(server))"). If your server supports SSLv3, TLS 1.0, TLS 1.1 and TLS 1.2, and since the latest version is TLS 1.2 anyway, what you'll get during your current connection will also be the max currently supported by the client. As long as your server supports the latest version, you should be able to know what the client supports at best from any live connection.
If you're behind Apache HTTP server's mod_ssl, you should be able to get that from the SSL_PROTOCOL environment variable. You should also be able to get the protocol from the SSLSession in Java.
(If you are willing to write a more bespoke service, you could pass further details like the cipher suites more directly to your application, like this service from Qualys SSL Labs does, although I'm not sure if it's meant to be widely available or just a test service.)

I'd have to agree with Remy about it being a bit challenging.
However, a good starting point may be to retrieve some SSL (certificate) information.
Something similar to this:
X509Certificate certChain[] =
(X509Certificate[]) req.getAttribute("javax.net.ssl.peer_certificates");
Another way of getting more information is to retrieve the cipher_suite attribute (similar to the code snippet above).
javax.net.ssl.cipher_suite
I hope this (at least) gets you closer.
Good luck.

Related

During handshake of TLS connection where does the client fetch the list of cipher suites from?

From where does the client fetches the list of cipher suites that it is going to propose to server?
For example, it looks like that on same machine, clients of two different applications can propose the different list of cipher suits.
To limit the scope of question, I want to understand it for RabbitMQ Client and TLS1.2.
More clarification
So I have RabbitMQ service installed on my machine and then in C# code I try to connect (Ex. var connection = factory.CreateConnection()) to it without any cipher suits configuration.
So here my C# application could be considered as Client.
please note that I am asking about the ciphers that client sends in 'Client Hello' message.
P.S. somewhere I read that rabbitmq internally uses openssl, so when I ran the command 'openssl ciphers -s -tls1_2' I got a list that is different when I see rabbitmq client hello's cipher suits in wireshark. Also I don't have any group policy on machine that overrides the ciphers.
See https://tls13.ulfheim.net/ for a nice graphical representation of a TLS 1.3 exchange.
In the second message, ClientHello, the client gives among other things a list of ciphers it supports. Where it gets it? Either hard-coded in the application or computed dynamically once decided to connect, etc. this all depends on the application, so you need to investigate its code source/its configuration.
If you take for example openssl s_client as TLS client, you have -cipher and -ciphersuites configuration options to specify which specific ciphers to announce when connecting.
If you look later in the exchange, there is a ServerHello where the server announces which cipher suite will be used.
How that happens? Typically, the server has its own list of preferred ciphers ordered by "quality" (cryptographic strength like preferring 256bits over 128bits and/or other properties like preferring PFS over non PFS), and based on what it got from the client, it tries to select the "best" one that is supported on both side, which is not necessarily always possible.
Now as you put in comments a specific application (Google Chrome), you can see at https://source.chromium.org/chromium/chromium/src/+/main:third_party/boringssl/src/ssl/ssl_cipher.cc;l=1152?q=cipher&ss=chromium%2Fchromium%2Fsrc the definition of a function called "ssl_create_cipher_list" whose goal is to build the cipher list, starting from all compiled ones, and then applying various rules to enable/disable some and sorting them in an order that makes sense. This is of course highly dependent on the application for how it is done, but you can certainly find similar operations in other toolkits.
Finally, do note that there is a big difference between TLS 1.2 (ciphers) and TLS 1.3 (ciphersuites). They are disjoint sets, and when TLS 1.2 has "myriad" of ciphers in the wild (see for example https://www.openssl.org/docs/man1.1.1/man1/ciphers.html for lots of them), TLS 1.3 defines only 5 ciphersuites (see https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc8446#appendix-B.4) with one being mandatory to implement, so the whole question of auto-negotiation between client and server becomes almost moot.
As you mention explicitly tls1.2 as tag, do note there is no real reason today not to use 1.3 instead (which is why my first link is on purpose specially for 1.3 - the handshake routine is different in 1.2 but identical for things related to your question of ciphers), you will gain a lot of benefits, from simplified operations, better cryptography all around, and fewer holes.

How to force WebLogic 10.3.2.0 to use TLS v1.0 minimum?

Having trouble with chrome v 4x.xx and WebLogic not automatically handshaking via tls 1.0 minimum. While calling a RESTful service from JavaScript front end I keep getting net::ERR_SSL_FALLBACK_BEYOND_MINIMUM_VERSION since Google have dropped support for SSL V3.0. I have tried adding the flag forcing this to JAVA_OPTIONS and on another occasion to the starting arguments for WebLogic, despite knowing these only become suported in 10.3.6. Is there another way?
So it turns out WebLogic 10.3.2.0 has a bug in it. When the client makes contact with the server for the first time it tells the server which SSL/TLS certificate version it supports - UP TO. The latest Chrome I believe supports TLS v1.2, so this is the only information sent to WebLogic. WebLogic has problems recognising that 1.2 is greater than 1.0, (which is the highest version available on WebLogic 10.3.2.0 (AFAIK, it is on ours) and should therefore be trusted, so terminates the connection.
source - https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/chrome/iwX2PbNGk8E

Does disabling SSLv2 and SSLv3 have any breaking changes on the end user?

We have clients who can be using anything, WindowsXP,Vista,Linux....
Currently our systems support SSLV2 and SSLV3.But, we are planning to disable both SSLV2 and SSLV3 in windows server 2008R2 in favour of TLS 1.2.
Will it have any breaking changes with the end user?I'm worried that If I disable SSLV3 ( and SSLV2) , some of the clients who use windowsXP(for example) might not be able to access my web service.
PS: Tried to find a similar question in stackoverflow, didn't find any. So, posting this as a question. :)
This is one of the scenarios where you will NOT be able to support old clients using insecure protocols and expect to have decent security.
If you have not enabled TLS 1.2 yet, do so.
Some clients do not support TLS 1.2 (e.g., older Android versions). You may need to support TLS 1.0 and 1.1 in addition to 1.2. While not ideal, it is definitely better than supporting SSL 2.0 and 3.0.
Post an announcement indicating that your web service is being upgraded to meet minimum security requirements and set a date for retiring insecure protocols.
Optionally, check your server metrics to see what protocols/ ciphers are used. Since you haven't mentioned your web server, I'm assuming it is IIS, in which case this is not easy[1][2].
Retire SSL 2.0 and SSL 3.0. There will be a few clients who will not be able to connect. Plan to have an answer ready for them. If you have clients running XP and using IE6, they have bigger issues than not being able to access your web service.
While you are at it, run your TLS configuration through an online
scanner like SSL Labs to ensure you fix any other issues.

SSL Handshake Client_Hello version

I have a very basic question: how does client_hello or server_hello in SSL handshake determine what SSL/TLS version can it support? I mean, as far as I understand, first client and then server send out the highest possible SSL version they support. But, how is this determined?
Is it the version field in a certificate?
Best regards,
HL
This is all described in the TLS specification, appendix E. This is phrased slightly differently in the TLS 1.0, 1.1 and 1.2 specification, but the principle remains the same.
Essentially, the client asks for the highest version it can support and the server responds with the highest version it can support up to the client's version:
min(max. client supported version, max. server supported version)
This works as long as there the resulting version is indeed supported by both parties.
The client is responsible for initiating an SSL handshake by sending the ClientHello message. If this isn't the first message that is sent, the server responds with an error and shuts down the socket.
The client advertises to the server which cipher specs it supports, it's not required to support all of them.
The client sends the server the client's SSL version number, cipher settings, session-specific data, and other information that the server needs to communicate with the client using SSL.
The client also sends a challenge token, which the server must encrypt using the newly negotiated key before sending back the encrypted value, in its hello message. The client verifies that the decrypted token is the same as what was sent. If it's not, the handshake is rejected.
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Find out SSL version (V2 or V3)

How can one tell if the SSL communication between a client and a server is SSLv2 or SSLv3?
On the SSL protocol level, the second byte of the header contains the major version of the protocol, which is 3 for SSLv3/TLS, presumably 2 for SSLv2. Note that the client sends the highest version it supports in its ClientHello message, and the server responds with the version it chose (which may be lower) in the ServerHello message.
Of course, you should work with an API that allows you to query the version without getting down to the protocol level.