I'm not too sure of what the difference between Unicasts and Broadcasts is. I could really use an example of their use that shows the difference between the two.
Thank you!
Unicasting is sending a message to a specific computer, identified by its IP address. This is 99.9% of all normal internet traffic, be it TCP or UDP.
Examples are web surfing (HTTP), sending or receiving emails (SMTP, POP, IMAP), using Skype, filesharing (Bittorrent) orplaying games over the internet (everything from Mahjongg to Diablo III). Basically everything where exactly 2 computers communicate with each other. Often, one is considered a server and another being a client, but that's not strictly necessary (cf. peer-to-peer networking).
Broadcasting sends a packet to every computer in the local subnet, by addressing it to the "broadcast address", which is derived from the subnet IP range.
E.g. For a 192.168.0.0/24 network, the broadcast address would be 192.168.0.255.
You can only reach computers within your own subnet via broadcasting. It won't be routed out into other networks. Typical usecases are data exchange or advertising of services (such as game or media servers) between local computers.
The message will (barring network problems) reach all computers in the subnet, but not all of them need to handle the message, if they are not interested in it (e.g. a computer not running a game client won't be interested in a game servers' broadcasts).
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What I want is, basically, to create a connection between two different computers on same local network. But i want to do this by computers' local IP's. (like 192.168.2.23 etc)
This must be a totally local connection. no TURN or STUN Servers. I am not sure if this is possible. Because there are not much documentation/example/information about WebRTC.
So, how can I create a connection from my computer to another one just passing its local IP as parameter?
Update: To be more clear; imagine there is an html page contains some code that activates my camera and audio services. and another -almost same- page is open in other computer. Waiting a connection request... And there is a textbox in my page to type an IP belongs to other computer on my local network. type 192.168.2.xx and bingo! i have connection between me and other computer.
I want this process as IP based, because there may be more than 2 devices on the network. And all of them are possible devices to create connection. So i need to reach them by their IP's.
Any example code or explanation would be great! even if it tells that this is not possible.
Thanks
Peer discovery is a vital part in any WebRTC application. It's an expensive term for saying: "Hi, I'm computer 4 and I want to talk to you!".
See it as calling a friend over the phone. You need to dial his number first.
This part is not defined in the WebRTC standards. You need to implement this logic in your application. Once you know who you want to call, you need a way of exchanging vital information. This is called signaling, like flo850 put in his answer.
Signaling is needed before any peer-to-peer connection can be set up.
To come up with an idea for your use case of 7 devices in a LAN.
If you have these devices connected to for example a WebSockets server and are in the same channel.
The WebSockets server can be written to route messages to specific receivers.
Devices connected to the channel often are identified with some kind of ID, imagine you use the device's IP.
When you want to talk to computer 4 with IP 192.168.0.4 you send the exchange messages (signaling) on the channel to the receiver with ID, the IP of the device you want to connect with.
How to send the signaling (offer, answer) is described here with example code.
Hope this helps
Users usually sit behind NATs; that's why ICE concept implemented in WebRTC.
If both users are sitting behind same NAT; you can skip ICE servers by passing "NULL" parameter value over "RTCPeerConnection" constructor:
var peer = new [webkit|moz]RTCPeerConnection ( null );
Now, browser will use "host" candidates, also known as "local" candidates.
you still need a signaling server. During the ICE candidate search, your clients will exchange their local ip through this signaling server
For an iOS app I am developing, I want multiple phone to connect to each other and be able to voice chat between those devices.
I have it working when both devices are on the same network. This was quite simple and most of the stuff I want to do, is possible.
But now I am adding internet support, which is quite a hassle. I'll first try to explain how I want to match the devices, using a small webservice I set up.
Server
Start a new GameKit session, with session-mode GKSessionModePeer
Find the "Peer ID" of the server on the session I just created
Create a new CFSocketRef on an free port and keep it ready to accept connections
Send Peer ID and Port number to my webservice, running on an external server.
WebService
Webservice receives the information and stores it together with an ID and the IP address of the client in a database.
Send ID back to Server, which displays the ID
Client
When the user chooses to use the "Online" feature of GameKit to search for games, I ask the user for an ID (where the user should input the ID the server receives).
Client connects to the webservice supplying the ID. The webservice returns the information about the session (IP, PORT, Peer ID) of the server.
The user tries to connect to the IP address, with the port information and set up an input and output stream with the server.
This does not work ofcourse, because my network does not allow incoming connections and a random port (from an external network).
But now the question is, how do I solve this? I want to be able to set up a peer to peer connection between 2 devices, those devices could be on the same network, but also on separate networks.
Is there a framework, example or anything showing how to do this? I want to be able to send data from device to device, without sending it to a server first.
I'm not aware of any frameworks that do this. I do however have a lot of experience with p2p networking across multiple networks.
One important rule I learned: when communicating between networks, don't create a direct connection unless necessary. There are just too many factors that can (will?) cause issues, such as firewalls, NATs, etc.
Sure, you can let the connection try first. You can try to connect to the given IP addresses*, but in most cases it will fail. Even when using UPnP and NAT-PMP, you'll find that in a lot of cases (more than half?) you won't be able to accept incoming connections at all.
So make sure to have a backup plan. Make a network layer abstraction that doesn't only listen(), but also connects to a server. That way, when you can't connect to the IPs* of the client, you simply setup a connection via the server and the network abstraction takes care of it all.
Let me reiterate the above: don't rely on incoming connections only, always have a backup plan.
* I write IPs because clients can have multiple local/remote IPs. Always iterate over all these IPs when connecting. Example: my phone has 2 local IPv4 addresses (10.0.0.172 and 10.8.0.2), and an IPv6 address ([2001:x:x::6]). Of these three addresses, only the IPv6 address is publicly reachable, and the two IPv4 addresses are on different subnets so whether you can connect to them depends on the subnet that the other client is on. Always try to connect to both, and fall back to a server-proxied connection when it fails.
** I mentioned IPv6, yes. Let's not forget that IPv6 is not limited by NATs, unlike IPv4, and this means that you're far more likely to get a good connection via IPv6 than IPv4, if supported.
I have been reading up about IPv6 and given that the number of available addresses in in the trillions upon trillions for each household on the internet, could we get to the stage where each computer in a household would have an IP that is unique to that computer, rather than the router that is next to the internet?
With that in mind, could a webserver (that is IPv6 Compatible) be used to track a specific computer's traffic through a website without using any session cookies, such as repeat viewing or if the website is visited in something like incognito mode?
each computer in a household would have an IP that is unique to that computer, rather than the router that is next to the internet?
If you mean no more Network Address Translation, yes, that is possible. Whether or not that actually happens for the internet connection in your house is a different question.
With that in mind, could a webserver (that is IPv6 Compatible) be used to track a specific computer's traffic through a website without using any session cookies
That could happen (that could happen to some extent with IPv4 now), but as mobile devices become more and more prevalent, tracking via this method would become less useful (as devices would switch IP addresses frequently).
What kind of IP address does whatismyip.com provide?
How can I get it using VB.Net code?
Also what is IP port?
Thanks
Furqan
PART 1
Okay, let's pretend you have a router in your house and that you have several computers in your house all connected to the internet through your router.
In order for the router to know where traffic goes on your network, it assigns unique IP Addresses to all computers on your home network (Usually beginning with 192.168.x.x). These IP addresses are local ip addresses, meaning only your router and computers/devices connected to it in your house knows about them. If you open a command prompt and do command IPConfig you will see the IP address that your router has assigned your computer.
So what is the IP address that WhatIsMyIP.com showing you? In much the same way that your router assigns addresses to all the computers on your network, your internet service provider hands out unique IP addresses to all of their customers. Now, because you have a router, the only thing the ISP can see on your network is that router and your ISP assigns an IP address to it. This is why routers are also called hardware firewalls, because people on the other side of it, can't tell how many computers or devices are connected to it.
What this means is, when you are visiting websites on the internet, the only IP address they see is your routers external IP address (the one assigned by your ISP). So no matter which computer in your house you use, the website wouldn't know the difference because all it can see is your router's IP address. Go ahead and try it; go to www.WhatIsMyIP.com on several different computers in your house. You will see that they all show the same IP address. However, if you did IPConfig in your command prompt on each computer, that shows you the local address your router assigned and it would be different on every computer in your home.
So, now that you understand the difference between local and external IP addresses, how would you retrieve your external IP address in VB or C# .net code that is running on your PC? Well the only IP address your computer is actually aware of is that local IP that we talked about. The only way you can see your external IP address is to go to a website that tells you what address the request came from (which would be your router's IP address).
What you would need to do is write up some code in your VB.net program that would navigate out to WhatIsMyIP.com (or some other website that can give you your IP address) and tell the code to grab it. I have written a web service located at http://www.u413.com/test/terminal/myip that returns only your IP address as the entire HTTP response. Find something similar though for your application because this little sample will not stay there forever; I only put it up there as a temporary example on a domain I already own.
Visit http://www.vbdotnetheaven.com/UploadFile/kbawala/WebRequestClass04182005054320AM/WebRequestClass.aspx to see how to make web requests from code running on your computer.
NOTE: You may not be aware of what DNS is either if you are unaware of how IP addresses work. Everything on the net has an IP address, including the servers that serve up website pages. But what a pain that would be, trying to remember up to 12 digit IP addresses for all your favorite websites. That is what DNS servers were invented for. DNS servers take a domain name (e.g. www.facebook.com) and translates it into the correct IP address. That way all you need to remember is facbook.com instead of 69.63.181.12 (this is facebook's IP address. Go ahead, try it! Put that IP in your browser's address bar and you will see facebook.), domain names are much easier to remember!
If you want to see the IP address associated with a website, open up a command prompt. Once the prompt is open type PING [websitedomain] (e.g. PING Facebook.com) and your computer will send 4 test requests to the address which is displayed for you.
PART 2
Let's pretend your IP address is like the address of an apartment buliding. The pizza delivery boy needs to know the address to the apartment building in order to deliver your pizza. But what is he going to do when he gets there? There are hundreds of doors/apartments to choose from. He needs to know the apartment number (port number on your computer).
Your computer has thousands of ports, and programs can listen on any one of them for requests from the outside world. When you go to a website almost all websites are served on port 80. Port 80 is the default port for web pages. When you go to facebook.com you are actually going to facebook.com:80, you just don't see the :80 because it is implied since it is the default. If I put up a web server, I could decide any port to serve websites on. If I served web pages on a different port than port 80, then you would have to include it in your URL. http://www.SomeDudesCustomWebServer.com:1337.
Outgoing requests use a port too, but that one is usually unimportant and your computer just picks one that is available. So when you go to Facebook.com, the facebook web servers are all serving up pages over port 80, but the port your computer opened up to send the request does not have to be port 80 because it picks an available port and then sends the port with the request. Then when facebook sends its response, it sends the reply back to the ip address and port that made the request.
Outgoing ports are only used for the duration of the request. Ports that must listen for connections must stay the same otherwise the computers making requests would have no idea what port to send the request to.
Easy huh!
Hope that helps you understand a bit better.
EDIT:
Port Forwarding
Okay, in light of the chat application you want to use/create, if you want it to communicate over the net you'll have to learn about port forwarding. Basically, because all you could see of your friend's network would be his external ip address, you will have to use that address to connect to his chat server (or vice versa if he is connecting to your chat server then it will be your external IP). Because of this, the connection request would only get as far as the router that has the external IP, but it would not know what computer on the network to forward the request to.
You will need to access your router's firmware and set up port forwarding so that the router knows to forward requests on a specific port, to a specific computer on the network. Visit http://portforward.com/ for more detail on how to setup port forwarding.
EDIT 2:
Firewall
When setting up stuff to communicate with your computer using your PC, you may start getting frustrated that it just won't connect. What is likely stopping you is your firewall. By default, most ports on your PC are completely blocked by the windows firewall. For each port that you want to communicate on you will want to go into the firewall and create a rule that will open up the port. Go here http://www.top-windows-tutorials.com/windows-7-firewall.html for a video on how to use the windows firewall. I did not watch it, but it is what came up first on a google search.
Do not simply disable the firewall. Even though this is an easy and quick solution to open up all your ports, you are leaving yourself open to attack. Viruses love to set themselves up in your computer if they can and listen on an open port for a connection from their beloved creator so he can obtain access to your PC. Only open the ports you need.
UDP vs TCP
When opening and forwarding ports you may notice that it asks for UDP (User Datagram Protocol) or TCP (Transmission Control Protocol). What they stand for may not make sense but all you need to know is this: UDP is for single packet transmissions which means that two packets sent by a pc may or may not be related to each other. These types of data packets are usually used for broadcasts on a local network. An example I would use is LAN games. When you host a game on a LAN the other computers/devices can see the name of the game and join it. That is because the computer hosting the game is transmitting a UDP broadcast across the entire LAN so that any devices can see the game. Those UDP transmissions usually contain the name of the game and the connection info required to connect to the game.
TCP is for continuous packet transmission. TCP requires an established connection, any packets transmitted on this connection are always related to that one connection/request. To continue my example from the last paragraph, once you click connect on the LAN game, your computer then establishes a TCP connection with the host and uses that connection for the duration of the game or games. TCP is the most commonly used connection type and your chat program would likely communicate over TCP, especially if you are connecting across the net because UDP broadcasts are useless across the internet. UDP is only really useful on a LAN.
You should be safe forwarding and unblocking only the TCP ports, but sometimes when I'm unsure I just do both UDP and TCP just to be safe. In fact, many routers and firewalls have 3 options: TCP, UDP, or Both which saves you from having to create two rules for both types of the port.
When in doubt, open/forward both.
What's my ip provides your IP v4 public address.
It's really easy to retrieve it, this topic explain how to proceed : How to get the IP address of the server on which my C# application is running on?
The code is only a few lines long, so the language (c# in this example) does'nt matter.
They provide your external internet facing IP.
This IP will depend on how you connect to the internet. If you connect straight from your computer to your ISP without any kind of router or firewall in between, it might be the same as your internal IP, but in most circumstances this will not be the case.
If you're at home and you've connected via a router of some kind, then you might be able to query it for the IP, but there is no standard way of doing this.
There is no standard way of getting hold of your external IP from the client it self. If you've got access to a server on the internet where you could deploy some code you could connect to that server from your client PC and ask it what IP you're connecting from.
IP Port Numbers
I also needed external IP using command line, but because I didn't find it I wrote small application using vb.net. You can use reflection for source code or ask on app home page for it. Basically application opens web page that provide your IP and parse it using regular expression, but because is designed with this purpose uses many "tricks" for this (can use more web pages at once, uses fastes page, etc). Check source for details.
Is it possible to use WCF discovery to access services that reside outside your local network ?
The short answer is no.
Discovery uses a UDP broadcast packet. You can discover anything that your UDP broadcast packet is allowed to reach. There is the catch, most routers, firewalls, and commercial switches block udp broadcast packets. You may be able to change the settings on your router where you connect to the next larger network (or internet), and you 'might' extend your discovery slightly. Again though, the very next switch or router you hit will most likely be set to block udp.
In this situation, most people design a "report in" server. This is one static place to which all other hosts and clients and pre-programmed to "report in" on startup. This one server keeps a table of where all hosts and clients are, and if one client wants to find a certain host, it asks this main server for the uri of the host its looking for.
EDIT:
Robin mentioned increasing the TTL (Time To Live) from the default of 1 to a higher number. Maybe this will help someone.
https://serverfault.com/a/619825/146341