I have an old hub that sucks, so I converted it to a USB-tripler by soldering all of the input 4 wires to the corresponding wires on the output connectors. I had to do this because modern devices require 2.0 or 2.8 volts on d+, and refuse to charge if d+ is shortened or not connected. It works well charging three devices from a 1a wall adapter.
But if someone accidentally connects this to a PC port, what will happen? Well if there is only one device, it would be detected no problem. But if two devices are wired to the same port, how dangerous is that?
I would prefer the first connected device to be identified in the system, while the second connected devices just get the power.
One of the first steps in USB enumeration is to send a reset signal by driving D+ and D- low. All the devices plugged in will see the reset and think it was intended for them. After the reset they will each think they have address 0 and respond to requests to that address. The result will be multiple devices trying to drive the bus at the same time, for a brief period before the host gives up.
I think it wouldn't damage anything, but you will be causing a short circuit for a few microseconds which is bad.
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I'm facing issues when communicating with devices over USB hub. When enumerating devices directly to host port, it does work, some devices over usb hub have issues.
Setup: STM32F103C8 - MAX3421E - LUFA (usb stack) (ported to MAX3421E (host) and STM32F103C8T6 (device)) - USB Full-Speed setup
Scenario:
When I attach device directly to host, I don't experience any issues enumerating almost all (some devices seems to be faulty and have weird/nonstandard behavior) devices. But when I try to enumerate over usb hub, devices starts to behave very strangely. I'm receiving much more NAK's from devices than when connected directly to host. Some devices are able to return Device Descriptor, but retrieving Configuration Descriptor fail. Some devices return Toggle Error after several NAK's, this could be remedied so far by delaying retry IN token. Also there is different behavior of devices when connected over different hubs. I.e. one device has no problems when connected to HUB1, but have issues when connected to HUB2. Then I have HUB3 (7 port) which internally acts as HUB in HUB. On this HUB3 device working fine on port behind secondary internal hub, but not on primary ports exposed over "root" hub.
I'm in suspicion that hub's TT could be somehow interfering with usb communication, but according to information I have found, TT should not be enabled under Full-Speed setup.
I have checked (many times) that I'm setting correct device address assigned during SetAddress phase (which is proved by returning Device Descriptor). When I step debug it seems that I can get Configuration Descriptor also, but while in normal system run, it isn't retrieved, but only over hub.
Does anyone has any ideas, what to look after? I've run out of ideas here after week of trying to find a root cause.
Thanks
so...
- as usual after searching for root cause, solution after days of trying comes naturally after asking on somewhere (this is hapenning to me always, but I do try prior asking always)
- when using hubs, make sure you don't suspend SOF generation during control transfers. LUFA just resume bus inside control transfer routines, so make sure you don"t stops and reenable SOF within (my fault as I'm using ported version to MAX)
- if you have tight main loop make sure you don"t reinitialize usb transfer without completion of previous try, but if you do so, check you don't owerwrite data which haven"t been processed yet fully (especially when using interrupt-driven transfer complete processing) [things seems to work when you have quite some debug output, as it delay that time critical transfers]
Enumeration over hub isuues are now second to none. Small glitches are subject for tweaking.
Unfortunately as I was in question for electrical issues, I had to unsolder usb host shield and soldered another one, which in light of new information seems unneeded. Nevermind, I have trained my soldering skills.
I am new to Wireshark and capturing packets and all Stuff. Let me get it to the straight.
I have a hardware which outputs its data over Ethernet using a UDP Broadcast. I Can directly plug a Ethernet Cable to a In-line RJ-45 Coupler (attached to the hardware) and my PC Running Wireshark.
REQUIREMENTS : I need to Capture RAW Data which my hardware is broadcasting so that it can be given to other team so as to know the format in which it is providing for further post processing.
What I Did : Initially , I connected the Ethernet Cable from my home and Started capturing the packets which didn't make any sense to me.
Can you please point out if I am going in correct direction ? Sorry if its a very basic question, but raw data from the hardware is important for my further tasks....
As far as any software can understand a wire you will always get a packet. Between you (in front of a computer) and the cable in the in the RJ-45 jack sits a NIC (network interface controller, i.e. your network card).
Your Ethernet NIC will read the current on the cable (in manchester encoding for ethernet) and synchronize itself to any Ehternet traffic on that cable. What does "synchronizing" mane in there? In front of any Ehternet traffic come 64 alternate bits of 0s and 1s which are meant to synchronize the clocks on both communicating NICs. Without proper clock synchronization some data may be misinterpreted.
But why I am talking about clock synchronization? Because if you want the data as RAW as it is on the cable you will not get it. A NIC will never send any synchronization bit to the rest of the computer, therefore it is absolutely impossible to read exactly what is on the cable by using software.
On the other hand I find hard to believe you want the RAW data as RAW as that. After the synchronization bits come an Ethernet encapsulated packed. Yup, Ethernet uses packets. They're link layer packets (layer 2 in OSI).
And wireshark gives you exactly that (in most cases, see note at the end for two exceptions to this rule): every Ehternet packet that the NIC understands, manages to sync, and manages to read without collision is sent to the kernel and then read by wireshark. A cable has electrical interference and has no provision against collisions (it's just a piece of cooper!) therefore the NIC abstracts things like interferences and collisions.
I'll repeat it once more: After abstracting the synchronization bits, sender collisions (which turn the cable into one huge interference) and plain interferences; all that remains is a stream of packets, one after the other.
Extra Notes
NICs sometimes do ignore some Ethernet packets: packets that are not directed to their MAC. This can be changed by enabling promiscuous mode (available in most NICs). This is irrelevant for broadcast packets.
There are exception to the rule of wireshark getting all the traffic coming from the NIC:
If the traffic comes incredibly quick, wireshark may drop out of kernel schedule and not see some packets. It happens, nothign can be done about it.
If you listen on all interfaces (as opposed to selecting a single interface to listen at), wireshark will strip the Ethernet (or Wifi) headers. This is a wireshark hack needed to make output files uniform (and possible to be read by other applications).
TL;DR, wireshark output (pcap) is pretty much just the stream of packets that it got from the NIC, one after the other. That is as RAW as you can get with software.
I'm playing around with an old Trackball I purchased from Sparkfun. My trackball powers on, but it doesn't actually work. All the lights flash, and it indicates that I've left and right clicked, but the mouse on my screen does nothing.
I want to monitor the input values of the trackball across a USB port so I can track down the problem. I've looked for code I can run on Netbeans, but came up empty handed.
Please advise
You didn't specified what OS are you using. You need dedicated driver for this device. In case of Linux you would need to write your own driver for the kernel. But first you need to have specification of protocol which this device is using over usb and also usb protocol itself. It is quite sophisticated task to do...
In case of Windows there are some programs for dumping transmission between usb host (PC) and device (trackball), but at the moment I can't give you any name of such program. In case of Linux you can dump the transmission using tcpdump or wireshark commands.
I encounter a problem when I'm trying to use a Ubuntu laptop computer to connect to two Sony A6000 through WiFi in the same time.
On that laptop there are two WiFi adapters, one is embedded (say, Wifi-A) and the other is an Asus USB-N13 ProN USB
dongle (say, Wifi-B).
Using Sony Camera Remote API I can successfully control these two A6000 (say, A6000-A & A6000-B)
through these two Wifi adapters, provided only one camera is connected a time. For example, either using Wifi-A to control to
A6000-A or A6000-B, or using Wifi-B to control A6000-A or A6000-B, will work.
I think this proves both the cameras and Wifi adapters hardware function correctly, and any combination of Wifi adapter and
camera works fine, too.
However, it will be different if I try to connect and control both cameras in the same time. The connection to both cameras
is OK (though sometimes not very smooth), but controlling them is not.
Here is a list of the experiment steps:
Wifi-B connects to A6000-B. Then Wifi-B gets IP address 192.168.122.166
Wifi-A connects to A6000-A. Then Wifi-A gets IP address 192.168.122.165
Send M-SEARCH request to Wifi-A and get response from A6000-A. Then get
Device Description XML file from A6000-A successfully.
Send M-SEARCH request to Wifi-B and never get response
I'm wondering if such configuration (One laptop + two Wifi adapter + two A6000) violates any design consideration
of A6000? For example, because both cameras use the same IP address 192.168.122.1 for themselves?
I'll appreciate if any one could comment on this issue.
Thanks in advance!
Xavier
After doing experiments for many days, I'm sure this symptom is caused by the IP address conflict (both of them are 192.168.122.1) of these two A6000.
As I can't find a way to change them, my optimal solution under such configuration (one laptop + two Wifi adapter + two A6000) is to make use of Linux Network Namespaces. Moving Wifi-B to a new Network Namespace does solve this issue, because every Network Namespace has its own network stack. Now I can freely access both of these A6000 from my laptop.
I hope this answer is helpful to anyone who encounters a similar problem.
There isn't any design consideration that would block this from working. Unfortunately we cannot offer any other troubleshooting suggestions.
As you know we can use our ADSL modems to send/receive data with high bandwidth through our phone line to/from ISP servers. I'm interested to write a program to use this capability of ADSL modem to send/receive files directly between computers (like Hyper Terminal application which was used for 56k serial modems). Is it possible? Also I want to know does it need governmental support or not? :)
Best Regards
While this is definitly possible (at least with the Alcatel ADSL modems), it is not worth the hassle. Some random points - please mind that this is written from a european POV, things might be a little different in the USA.
Carriers are not amused, if you change the configuration of your modem. Some will call it "hacking" and disconnect you.
It is not possible, to use the modem for both (Internet access and file transfer) at the same time.
It won't work between modems on different carrier networks or even in different LM segments of the same carrier - the ADSL signal is terminated at the multiplexer in your carrier's LM switch. It does however work between modems attached to the same multiplexer.
For your problem, the solution ist to use a TCP connection instead of a fake serial - even HyperTerminal can do that AFAIR