I'm porting u-boot-2013.10 to MPC8306 based board. Previously, I can erase the first several sectors of Nor Flash using BDI2000. But after sometime, when the porting task is nearly done, (I mean that I can use gdb to trace the code execution and find the u-boot code runs into command line mainloop, though there are no serial output at the time, due to error configure of Serial Port)the first 256KB of Nor Flash can't be erased even if after power off reset. Other sectors can be erased normally.
The Nor Flash is Micron M29W256GL, with block size 128KB. I'm sure the WP# Pin has been pulled high, so there is no hardware protection upon the first block.
When config the jumper on board to change the PowerPC Config Word in order not to let MPC8306 fetch boot code at power up, the problem remains.
I used to run u-boot-1.1.6 on this board, I have erased this version of u-boot so many times without the problem mentioned above. I guess u-boot-2013.10 made some new approach to flash manipulation or others, for example, non-volatile protection on first 256KB of flash.
Is there someone can help me to solve the problem? I would very much appreciate your help.
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For one of our Projects we have a Hardware Watchdog reset which happens on roughly 0.1% of our devices each day, resulting in many unwanted hardware resets.
We are trying to figure out what causes this Hardware Watchdog reset, but have failed to find anything relevant in our code which would result in this behavior.
We are using the Arduino 2.4.2 Version, we are not sure since when the Problem has bugged our solution since we had other issues which have now mainly been resolved.
Luckily our devices send us their reboot reasons when they reconnect, there we are receiving the following:
ResetReason=Hardware Watchdog;ResetInfo=Fatal exception:4 flag:1 (WDT)
epc1:0x40102329 epc2:0x00000000 epc3:0x00000000 excvaddr:0x00000000
depc:0x00000000;
We have looked for any thing, when this through the EspStackTraceDecoder we ended up with:
0x40102329: wDev_ProcessFiq at ??:?
A search looking at varies project which have asked similar questions mostly seemed to include a dns query. But not all, so it seems to be a general issue?
What additional information could we extract that might help us identity the issue?
Some Additional Information
Memory is stable and we have ~15-17Kb of free Heap, depending on the mode and the amount of data queued to send / receive queue.
Our side of the code uses yield, delay etc. so the S/W watchdog should always be fed. This also applies to the Async callback code.
Check whether you are doing any wrong memory read. The main reason for HW WDT is that it can trigger the reset if the software (or) cpu is not working anymore.
your CPU might have been stuck while executing some instructions and does't return.
I've written a small single-line oriented UDP based display service to support raspberry pi projects I frequently work on, where it would be nice to see the results of sensor data being captured. This is a rewrite of that program using GTK3 V3.18.9, and GLIB2 V2.46.2. I'm developing on OSX El Capitan
It seems to double in real memory size every 30 minutes or so based on traffic; so I'm presuming I have a memory leak somewhere. But for the life of me I can't see where in the code it could possible be. Val grind did not initially work for me, so I've got some studying to do to resolve what ever issue that is.
Meanwhile I was hoping that different eyes might be able to suggest a coding cause for a traffic based (at least I think so) memory leak. Here is the program and test client.
It starts up using about 10MB of real memory, then jumps when it has received 64 total messages to 14MB, than slowly grows from there. At 64 message, I start deleting the 65th message off the end of the list, presuming I should be saving memory; as this program might run for weeks.
Here is the code for the test client and the display service:
https://gist.github.com/skoona/c1218919cf393c98af474a4bf868009f
This one is a basic question related to u-boot.
Why does the u-boot code relocate itself ?
Ok, it makes sense if u-boot is executing from NOR-flash or boot ROM space but if it runs from SDRAM already why does it have to relocate itself once again ?
This question comes up frequently. Good answers sometimes too.
I agree it is handy to load the build to SDRAM during development. That works for me, I do it all the time. I have some special boot code in flash which does not enable MMU/cache. For my u-boot builds I switch CONFIG_SYS_TEXT_BASE between flash and ram builds. I run my development builds that way routinely.
As a practical matter, handling re-initialization of MMU/cache would be a nontrivial matter. And U-Boot benefits IMO from simplicity, as result of leaving out things like that.
The tech lead at Denx has expressed his opinion. IIRC his other posts are more strongly worded than that one. I get the impression that he does not like to repeat himself.
update: why relocate. Memory access is faster from RAM than from ROM, this will matter particularly if target has no instruction cache. Executing from RAM allows flash reprogramming; also (more minor) it allows software breakpoints with "trap" instructions; also it is more like the target's normal mode of operation, so if e.g. burst reads from RAM are iffy the failure will be seen at early boot.
U-boot has to reserve 3 regions in memory that stores: 1) u-boot itself, 2) uImage (compressed kernel), and 3) uncompressed kernel. These 3 regions must be carefully placed in u-boot to prevent conflict.
However, the previous stage boot-loader, (BL2 or BL1) that brings u-boot into DRAM memory don\t know u-boot's planing on these 3 regions. So it can only loads u-boot onto a lower address in DRAM memory and jump to it. Then, after u-boot execute some basic initialization and detect current PC is not in planed location, u-boot call relocate function that move u-boot to the planned location and jump to it.
The code of NOR flash must initialize the SDRAM, Then the copy code from Nor Flash to SDRAM, The process will copy itself, because you could enable MMU, we will start Virtual address mapping.
I recently I came across an error that I cannot understand. The game I'm developing using Cocos2D just freezes at a certain random point -- it gets a SIGSTOP -- and I cannot find the reason. What tool can I use (and how do I use it) to find out where the error occurs and what's causing it?
Jeremy's suggestion to stop in the debugger is a good one.
There's a really quick way to investigate a freeze (or any performance issue), especially when it's not easy to reproduce. You have to have a terminal handy (so you'll need to be running in the iOS simulator or on Mac OS X, not on an iOS device).
When the hang occurs pop over to a terminal and run:
sample YourProgramName
(If there are spaces in your program name wrap that in quotes like sample "My Awesome Game".) The output of sample is a log showing where your program is spending time, and if your program is actually hung, it will be pretty obvious which functions are stuck.
I disagree with Aaron Golden's answer above as running on a device is extremely useful in order to have a real-case scenario of where the app freezes. The simulator has more memory and does not reproduce the hardware of the device in an accurate way (for example, the frame rate is in certain cases lower).
"Obviously", you need to connect your device (with a developer profile) on Xcode and look at the console terminal to look for traces that user #AaronGolden suggested.
If those are not enough you might want to enable a general exception breakpoint in Xcode to capture more of the stacktrace messages.
When I started learning Cocos2D my app often frooze. This is a list of common causes:
I wasn't using sprite sheets and hence the frame rate was dropping drammatically
I was using too much memory (too many high-definition sprites. Have a look at TexturePacker and use pvr.ccz or pvr.gz format; it cuts memory allocation in half)
Use instruments to profile your app for memory warnings (for example, look at allocation instruments and look for memory warnings).
I am working on Uboot bootloader. I have some basic question about the functionality of Bootloader and the application it is going to handle:
Q1: As per my knowledge, bootloader is used to download the application into memory. Over internet I also found that bootloader copies the application to RAM and then the application runs from RAM. I am confused with the working of Bootloader...When application is provided to bootloader through serial or TFTP, What happens next, whether Bootloader copies it to RAM first or whether it writes directly to Flash.
Q2: Why there is a need for Bootloader to copy application to RAM and then run the application from RAM? What difficulties we will face if our application runs from FLASH?
Q3: What is the meaning of statement "My application is running from RAM/FLASH"? Is it mean that our application's .text segment or .code segment is in RAM/FLASH? And we are not concerned about .bss section because it is designed to be in RAM.
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When any hardware system is designed, the designer must consider where the executable code will be located. The answer depends on the microcontroller, the included memory types, and the system requirements. So the answer varies from system to system. Some systems execute code located in RAM. Other systems execute code located in flash. You didn't tell us enough about your system to know what it is designed to do.
A system might be designed to execute code from RAM because RAM access times are faster than flash so code can execute faster. A system might be designed to execute code from flash because flash is plentiful and RAM may not be. A system might be designed to execute code from flash so that it boots more quickly. These are just some examples and there are other considerations as well.
RAM is volatile so it does not retain code through a power cycle. If the system executes code located in RAM then a bootloader is required to obtain and write the code to RAM at powerup. Flash is non-volatile so execution can start right away at powerup and a bootloader is not necessary (but may still be useful).
Regarding Q3, the answer is yes. If the system is running from RAM then the .text will be located in RAM (but not until after the bootloader has copied it to there). If the system is running from flash then the .text section will be located in flash. The .bss section is variables and will be in RAM regardless of where the .text section is.
Yes, in general a bootloader boots the system, but it might also provide a mechanism for interrupting the default boot path and allow alternate firmware to be downloaded and run instead, as well as other features (like flashing).
Traditional rom had a traditional ram like interface, address, data, chip select, read/write, etc. And you can still buy rom that way, but it is cheaper from a pin real estate perspective to use something spi or i2c based, which is slower. Not desireable to run from, but tolerable to read once then run from ram. newer flash technologies can/have had problems with read-disturb, where if your code is in a tight loop reading the same instructions or for any other reason the flash is being read too fast, the charge can drop such that a read returns the wrong data, potentially causing the program to change course or crash. Also your PC and other linux platforms are used to copying the kernel from NV storage (hard disk) to ram and then running from there so the copy from flash to ram and run from ram has a comfort level, and is often faster than flash. So there are many potential reasons to not use flash, but depending on the system it may be possible to run from flash just fine (some systems the flash in question is not accessible directly and not executable, of course SOME rom in that system needed to be executable/bootable).
It simplifies the coding challenges if you program the flash with something that is in ram. You can create and debug the code one time that reads from ram and writes to flash and reads from flash and writes to ram. DONE. Now you can work on separate code that receives data from serial to ram, or from ram to serial. DONE. Then work on code that does the same over ethernet or usb or whatever DONE. You dont have to deal with inventing a protocol or solving the problem of timing. Flash writing is very slow, and even xmodem at a moderate speed can be way too fast, so you have to buffer that data in ram anyway, might as well make the tasks completely separate, instead of an xmodem or any other serial based flash loader with a big ram based fifo, just move the data to ram, then separately go from ram to flash. Same for other interfaces. It is technically possible to buffer the data and give the illusion of going from the download interface straight to flash, and depending on the protocol it is technically possible to hold off the sender so that as little as one flash page is required in ram before programming flash. With the older parallel flashes you could do something pretty cool which I dont think most people figured out. When you stop writing to the flash page for some known period of time the flash would automatically start to program that page and you have to wait for 10ms or something like that before it is done. What folks assumed was you had to program sequential addresses and had to get the new data for the next address in that period of time and would demand high serial port speeds, etc, the reality is you can pound the same address over and over again with the same data and the flash wont start to program the page, and the download interface can be infinitely slow. Serial flashes work differently and either dont need tricks or have different tricks.
RAM/FLASH is not some industry term. It likely means that .text is in rom (flash) and .data and .bss are in ram. A copy of the initial state of .data will probably be on flash as well and copied to ram before main() is called, likewise .bss will be zeroed before main() is called. look at crt0.S for most platforms in gnu sources (glibc, or is it gcc, I dont know) to get the gist of how the bootstrap works in a generic fashion.
A bootloader is not required to run linux or other operating systems, you dont NEED uboot, but it is quite useful. Linux is pretty easy, you copy the kernel and root file system, either set some registers or some tags in memory or both then branch to the entry point in the kernel and linux takes over from there. Because linux is so complicated it is desireable to have a complicated bootloader that can capitalize on high speed interfaces like ethernet (rather than being limited to serial or slower).
I would add something regarding your question Q2.
Q2: Why there is a need for Bootloader to copy application to RAM and then run the application from RAM? What difficulties we will face if our application runs from FLASH?
It is not only about having SPI or similar serial external code memory (which is not that often anyway).
Even the external ROM/FLASH/EPROM/ connected to the usual high speed parallel bus will will prevent a system from running on a maximum clock (with zero wait state) even on the relatively slow MCUs due to the external memory access time. You would need 10 ns FLASH access time for the 100 MHz clock, which is not so easy to get (if economically possible at all). And you would agree that 100 MHz is not such a brain spinning speed any more :-)
That is why many MCU/CPU architectures are doing tricks with reading multiply instructions at once, or having internal cash, or doing whatever was needed to compensate for a slow external code memory. Only most older 8-bit architectures can execute the code directly from the flash memory ('in place').
Even if your only code memory was the internal Flash, something need to be done to speed it up. Take a look for example at this article:
http://www.iqmagazineonline.com/magazine/pdf/v_3_2_pdf/pg14-15-18-19-9Q6Phillips-Z.pdf
It desribes how the ARM7 has incorporated something they called MAM (Memory Accelerator Module). It is a good read, and you will find some measures there to speed up the code memory access for the specific ARM7 arhitecture (goes for most others):
Limit maximum clock frequency (from 80 MHz to about 20 MHz for the example in the article)
Insert wait-cycles during flash accesses
Use an instruction cache
Copy the program code from flash to RAM
Obviously, if the instruction cache was not an option (too small, or the clock too high) you are really left only with execution from the RAM, after relocating the code there at the start up.
There is an option also to run only specific section of code from the RAM, which could be specified to the linker. For the DSP (Digital System Processing) systems, there was really no option to run from the EPROM/FLASH even in the old days with clock around only few tens of MHz, let alone now.
Another issue is debugging, the options for debugging the code placed in ROM, or even Flash, are very limited (you have to move section of the code to RAM to be able to set a break point on most systems).
Regarding Q2, one of the difficulties you may face executing from Flash is another code update. If you are executing from the same block of Flash you are trying to update, the system will crash. This depends on your system architecture (how your application and bootloader are organized in Flash) but may be particularly hard to avoid if you are trying to update the bootloader itself.