What is the difference between Metro apps written in web-development technologies and ones written in XAML/C#, etc.? Does Microsoft Metro API provide hooks for Javascript, where it's all native for C#? Should they work hand in hand, or is it the developers choice which route to go?
Is there certain functionality that cannot be implemented if using JS (other than OpenGL hardware capabilities)?
The reason I'm wondering is to know which technologies are necessary for building extensive Metro apps, so that when I get to a certain point I'm not stopped by a brick wall, letting me know that I used the wrong technology.
Microsoft has put in a lot of work to make Javascript a first-order language on par with C# for WinRT development. Both Javascript and C# have direct access to the WinRT API via language projections. That is, there is a unique binding specific to the language to the underlying API. So neither language is any more "native" than the other.
You should be able to write an equivalent Metro app in either language. At a high-level, it really does come down to which language/environment you are more comfortable with.
However, there are a couple of differences that should factor into the decision. First, WinRT components can only be written in C# or C++. Javascript can only consume thse components. If there is an intent to create reusable/shareable components, should keep this in mind.
Second, although the Windows Phone 8 SDK has not been released yet, there are indications that Windows Phone 8 apps can only be written in C#. If there is an intent to create similar apps for both the tablet as well as the phone, this is probably a serious consideration.
There haven't been a lot of performance-based studies comparing the two in a Metro app, so it's hard to say whether that will become a factor or not.
Then, there is also 3rd-party support to consider. C#/XAML is well established and has a lot of 3rd-party support. But similarly, Javascript has a lot of 3rd-party libraries available (e.g. jQuery) that for the most part can be brought in and used in a Metro app as well. I would give a slight edge to C#/XAML, but it seems like support is good for both.
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I am considering making a small app for desktop pc's. I would mainly like to have support for mac and for ubuntu (linux) and I wouldn't mind support for windows as well. An easy way seems to develop an app using Unity, but it is more known to be an engine for games.
To my simple logic, there should be no reason why an app cannot be built with Unity. A platform that features the ability to create massive laser marine gunbattles should be capable of rending pretty buttons and a user interface. The plus side is that with unity you can port to all platforms that I would like this app to run on as well.
Am I making a bad assumption? Are there any people that have done such things? The app I would like to make might be open source, does the Unity platform limit me in any way here?
You are correct in your reasoning that it is possible to make a normal app with Unity, but this of course is not what Unity was intended for. It is geared towards rendering and updating scenes (including physics, game logic, etc.). If you do not need the notion of scenes in your app, then you will add additional complexity to your development and run-time overhead that you would not normally need.
Another drawback is that you will need to abide by Unity's licensing with your app which may or may not be an issue for you (https://store.unity3d.com - See links at the very bottom for other special licenses, such as for gambling).
Since you mentioned Unity specifically, it uses Mono for some of its run-time support across platforms. Perhaps you want to consider using just Mono and associated tools instead (http://www.mono-project.com).
This one is a quick question regarding the possibility of having the same LnF (same look) on Android and iOS, is there an API that can provide something like this? SImilar to MAUI in MoSync or IwUI in marmaladeSDK?
Basically what I would like to do is to create my UI once for both iOS and Android using monodeveloper.
Note: Before anyone downvotes anymore, please take into account that this is a real requirement for a real project. The question is not without reason, since after looking at the documentation, I can see that Xamarin does not provide such solution, but other multi-platform SDKs do provide such solution, and since the mono ecosystem is vast, perhaps there is a third party library that can provide such functionality.
Unfortunately most of your code portability will be on the backend (non UI) when leveraging Monotouch. There are far too many inconsistencies with how an Android UI vs iOS UI are implemented respectively to their OS's.
Have you checked out http://ifactr.com/overview ? It is a paid product so I haven't tried it, but it might be at least work looking into. Other than this, no there is no cross-platform UI if you go the Mono route.
Taken directly from their page:
"But we learned that even with as much code sharing that MonoCross provides, for applications with significant UI layers, the burden of creating platform-specific UIs can be overbearing. So we created the iFactr UI abstraction layer, which allows developers to code to an abstract UI interface, and then reference our iFactr concrete implementations of that interface for all the mobile platforms, both as native UI implementations and HTML5 UI implementations.
While not a silver bullet for all mobile development, it is designed and optimized for rapidly creating data-driven UIs that enterprise users tend to demand. And because it’s integrated with MonoCross, you can mix-and-match your iFactr UI screens that are shared across platforms with screens that you can code to target specific platforms using the entire set of native APIs available on each mobile OS."
The problem is Android and iOS have different UI / UX metaphors.
Take this for example: http://kintek.com.au/blog/portkit-ux-metaphor-equivalents-for-ios-6-and-android-4/
The differences are fairly significant. If you use a development wrapper then you'll have to 100% rely on their tools. We've had experience with Titanium in the past and it wasn't good at all.
All Metro applications must be inspected before distribution through Windows 8 AppStore. Does this mean it will not be allowed to use code obfuscation? Or it is still possible, and only some specific aspects are going to be monitored during such inspection?
Here are some facts:
Marketplace for WP7 allows C# apps be obfuscated (even MS he advises
doing so) and I don't see any reason why Windows AppStore would ban
such apps.
It is almost certain that some vendors will provide compatible C++
obfuscator.
You should care about your clients not crackers. :)
a lot of hacks for code obfuscation will be banned.
Remember, if you have some logic that you want to hide, make a webservice and consume it in your client app. Better spend your time building better app, fixing bugs etc.
No dice, if someone has access to the binaries is just a matter of time when someone cracks it.
This is an armchair answer with some things that come to mind:
Even a C++ application can still be anazlyed if it depends on dynamic linking to a runtime or API, which is the case with WinRT applications. Microsoft approval can in theory include automated or human guided testing of your app using a special sandbox and/or OS hooks capable of detecting if your application attempts certain prohibited operations.
Under the hood, C++ apps for WinRT are more like native C++ apps than C++/CLI, so obfuscation is not needed to the degree that it is for C#, all things being equal.
You can still build C# apps that target WinRT, but your code will still be compiled to CIL and run within the CLR (more or less), invoking WinRT through wrappers that Microsoft provides. Because it's CIL, the question of obfuscation should be equivalent to that of C#/.NET obfuscation in general.
Obfuscation is still possible for WinRT. The inspection made by the Application Certification Kit cover lot of aspects including metadata and IL verification. Just like the old peverify did.
I am new to smartphone application Development, I have worked with .NET web and Windows Forms applications and only used the C# language.
I am planning to make a simple application which can run on all mobile OSes, like BlackBerry, Windows Mobile, Android phones, iPhone, etc. On searching I found that all have different OSes and uses different languages. I can use the C# language and .NET since I am aware about it. After some thinking, is it possible to make a web-based application using normal website coding but make it work like an application?
Please suggest some method to make a application which is possible to run on all smartphones. What technology or tools can be used for developing it?
The best approach to create truly cross platform app is to use HTML5 and JavaScript. All the other options will be painful. However, of course you can't access all the features with these web applications.
One interesting framework for creating HTML5/JavaScript based apps is PhoneGap (http://www.phonegap.com/). It has quite many API's available and wide support for different platforms. (Note that browser performance varies between devices so make sure not to add too much effects and glitter)
For native apps, there's no that many frameworks but one interesting is MoSync (http://www.mosync.com/)
There can be multiple approaches to create a Cross Smatphone plateform apllication.
If you want to code just once and want to to run on multiple enviroments without any change you must go for some javascript/HTML5 bassed solutions. One that I work with is NGCore. It is a development framework that allows games to be authored in JavaScript but with native application performance by leveraging ngmoco's ngCore libraries.
Other approach that will best suit your needs is to go for a Environment like MonoTouch. Its C# based and AFAIK you can use most of the .net API in MonoDevelope. It lets you reuse most of your code on another environment.
I'm trying to build a dual platform application for a company of my own I'm trying to start at night.
I have the .NET version done, but have not finished the UI part. I'm thinking of buying some 3rd party controls.
If I buy these controls, however, they clearly will only work in my Windows version. I'm wondering if I should try to do the UI in GTK# and use Mono with CocoaSharp or just build the thing in MS technology and teach myself the Mac side?
I'm just really unfamiliar with the Mac world and am wondering how much of a learning curve there might be.
I've thought perhaps of rewriting my core logic in Ruby or Python. This why I could use the .NET version with .NET controls and presumably hook the same code up on the Mac.
It's an educational app targeted at consumers. As such, it shouldn't require a lot of technical sophistication to install.
If the non-visual part of the .NET application is quite big compared to the UI, then you can go full .NET and adopt the following two-steps strategy:
Non-Visual Part
Develop the non-visual .NET part to be the most platform independent.
Platform dependent code for non-visual code should be isolated in small classes that provide the same interface so they could be plugged according to the platform.
User Interface
Use System.Windows.Forms (or your favorite toolkit) for Windows
Use a Cocoa bridge (see this page for the choices) for Mac OS X.
You still can benefit from learning Objective-C: as the Cocoa bridges are usually heavily based on the Apple's API, you will find a lot of help in the Apple's sample code (which are in Objective-C).
On Windows, the application will run with the Microsoft .NET runtime and on Mac OS X, the application will run with the Mono runtime.
The DeepMeta application uses this strategy. As you can see the user experience is quite good on both platforms.
Avoid using cross platform UI tools; the result will never be as good as a native implementation, which is especially bad on the OS X where most customers expect a certain level of polish in their applications. Implementing the core logic in a platform independent language like C++ and maintaining a different code base for the interface on each platform can be a good solution, especially if you have a very complex model.
Anyway, you shouldn't have too much difficulty learning Cocoa if you're a good .NET programmer; I did the reverse several years ago and didn't have much trouble. Objective-C is more C oriented than C#, but if you know the basics about pointers and such you're going to be okay. Cocoa and .NET definitely have their differences in certain areas, but they're both high level frameworks which you shouldn't have too much trouble understanding. Get a good book (Hillegass is the go-to author) and go through it so you understand how the two APIs use different design patterns in certain areas, and don't try to fight the framework if it's different than what you're used to.
In my experience this will make you a better programmer in the long run by expanding your knowledge, even if you don't write any more Cocoa applications.