Which one is more desired when dealing with dates? sql DateTime or nvarchar string? - sql

Does SQLs built-in DateTime type has any merits over nvarchar type?
If it were you , which one would you use?
I need to store dates in my SQLServer database and I'm curious to know which one is better and why it is better.
I also want to know what happens if I for example store dates as string literals (I mean nvarchar )? Does it take longer to be searched? Or they are the same in terms of performance ?
And for the last question. How can I send a date from my c# application to the sql field of tye DateTime? Is it any different from the c#s DateTime ?

You're given a date datetype for a reason, why would you not use it?
What happens when you store "3/2/2012" in a text field? Is it March 2nd? Is it February 3rd?
Store the date in a date or datetime field, and do any formatting of the date after the fact.
EDIT
If you have to store dates like 1391/7/1, your choices are:
Assuming you're using SQL Server 2008 or greater, use the datetime2 data type; it allows dates earlier than 1753/01/01 (which is what datetime stops at).
Assuming you're using SQL Server 2005 or earlier, store the dates as Roman calendar dates, and then in your application, use date/time functions to convert the date and time to the Farsi calendar.

Use the correct datatype (date/datetime/datetime2 dependant on version and requirement for time component).
Advantages are more compact storage than storing as a string (especially nvarchar as this is double byte). Built in validation against invalid dates such as 30 February. Sorts correctly. Avoids the need to cast it back to the correct datatype anyway when using date functions on it.

If I'm storing a DateTime value, and I expect to perform date-based calculcations based on it, I'll use a DateTime.
Storing Dates as strings (varchars) introduces a variety of logistical issues, not the least of which is rendering the date in a proper format. Again, that bows in favor of DateTime.

I would go with the DateTime since you can use various functions on it directly.
string wouldn't be too much of a hassle but you will have to cast the data each time you want to do something with it.
There is no real performance variance while searching on both type of fields so going with DateTime is better than strings when working with date values.

you must realise the datetime datatype like other datatypes is provided for a reason and you should use the datatype that represents your data clearly.. Besides this you gain all the functionalities/operations that are special to the datetime datatype..
One of the biggest gains is correct sorting of data which will not be possible directly if you use nvarchar as your datatype.. Even if you think you dont need sorting right now there will be a time in the future where this will be useful.
Also date validation is something that you will benefit from. There is no confusion of the dateformat stored i.e dd/mm or mm/dd etc..

There is lot discussed about the subject. There is good post on the SQLCentral forum about this particular subject DateTime or nvarchar.
In short, nvarchar is twice as longer as datetime, so it takes more space and on the long range, any action affecting it will be slower. You will have some validation issues and many more.

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SQL: date type column with only mm-dd

I want to create a column of data type having only 'mm-dd' values.
Is it possible and if yes how should I do it?
Note: Instead of "2022-06-07", I want "07-06"
There is no date type that can store that format - in fact none of the date types store a date and/or time in any of the formats you typically recognize.
For your specific requirement, that looks like a char(5) for the data type, but how you constrain it so that it will only accept valid date values, I have no idea. You'd think this would work:
CHECK (TRY_CONVERT(date, string_column + '-2022', 105) IS NOT NULL)
But what about leap years? February 29th is sometimes valid, but you've thrown away the only information that can make you sure. What a bunch of mess to store your favorite string and trust that people aren't putting garbage in there.
Honestly I would store the date as a date, then you can just have a computed column (or a column in a view, or just do this at query time:
d_slash_m_column AS CONVERT(char(5), date_column, 105)
Why not just in your query (or only in a view) say:
[output] = CONVERT(char(5), data_in_the_right_type, 105)
?
I'd personally stay away from FORMAT(), for reasons I've described here:
FORMAT() is nice and all, but…
FORMAT is a convenient but expensive function - Part 1
FORMAT is a convenient but expensive function - Part 2
You can use the SQL Server FORMAT function:
FORMAT(col1, 'dd/MM')
Check the demo here.
In such cases using char or varchar is not the best option as in those cases the underlying DB constraints that validate the integrity of the data do not kick in.
Best option is to use an arbitrary year and then put in a proper date, so for example for storing 01-Jan, the db column should store proper date with year as any arbitrary value, e.g. 2000. So your db should say 2000-01-01.
With such a solution you are still able to rely on the DB to raise an error if you tried month 13. Similarly sorting will work naturally as well.

Specify string date format before casting in a function SQL

I have a scenario to cast string date into date format. But the date string is not in a straight format, so the conversion throws error. So what I tried is
set dateformat dmy
before the casting in sql and it worked without any issue.
But the trouble is I need this to implement in a view or function. But the disappointing part, function or view doesn't support set dateformat with which it says as side effecting operator
So how can I specify the date format of the given string before casting in a function or view?
The third parameter of CONVERT() allows to provide a format type.
Assuming your SET DATEFORMAT DMY I take you've to deal with dates like "1/2/2000", meaning the first of February in 2000.
Try this:
DECLARE #d VARCHAR(100)='1/2/2000';
SELECT CONVERT(DATE,#d,104)
The 104 is the German type with a 4-digit year. If this does not fit your needs, you can follow the link to find a better suiting format.
If you need further help, please provide samples of your actual dates.
Hint: You should always store a value in a column with the appropriate type. Storing dates as strings will make things slow and opens a lot of error sources...
As Damien wrote in his comment to the question, ideally you should not mess around with string representations of datetime in the first place - you should be using proper data types - and since you asked about creating a view, it can only mean that somewhere in your database there's a datetime value stored as a string.
The solution to this situation is to change the way you are storing this value - use DateTime2 for datetime values, Date for date-only values, or Time for time-of-day values.
Further reading - Aaron Bertrand's Bad habits to kick : choosing the wrong data type
Assuming you can't change the database design, read the rest of this answer.
You can't use set dateformat on a view or a function, but you can use convert instead of cast to change the string representation of a datetime value into an actual datetime value, assuming the string representation has one of the supported date formats (there are quite a few of them, so usually it shouldn't be a problem).
If your string representation of the datetime is in a format that is not supported by the built in convert function, you might need to do some extra work in the form of string manipulation to either change it into a supported format, or (in the harder case) separate the string representation to parts and then use datetimefromparts.
If you could provide the actual format you are using in your string representation of the datetime format I can probably edit this answer to show you exactly how to do it.
SELECT CONVERT(varchar(10),CAST('07/01/2018' AS DATE),23)
Result
2018-07-01
Not sure what you mean by, "date string is not in a straight format". Examples will help.
Have you tried parsing, instead of casting?
SELECT
TRY_PARSE(thedate AS datetime) as justParse
,TRY_PARSE(thedate AS datetime USING 'en-US') as parseUS
,TRY_PARSE(thedate AS datetime USING 'en-GB') as parseGB
,try_cast(thedate as date) as tryCast
FROM (values
('07/01/2018')
,('01/07/2018')
,('07 jan 2018')
,('jan 07 2018')
,('Monday, 7 January 2019')
)d(thedate)

How can I store date only in datetime field in WebMatrix with Sql Server CE?

I was wondering if there was a way to store a date (example: 01/01/2013) as datetime without SQL Server CE adding the time (example: 12:00:00 AM).
I could always store it as the string "01/01/2013" but I really want to be able to compare the dates on querying the database.
I realize that as long as I only stored the date part, all of the times in the datetime field would have equal values (i.e. 12:00:00 AM), so comparing them wouldn't be a problem and I could just always ignore the time part, however, it seems ridiculous to have this unnecessary data appended to every entry in the table.
Is there a way to store only the date part of the datetime as datetime so that the dates can still be compared in the SQL query or do I just need to live with this overhead and move on?
Side Note:
I just spent the last 30 minutes searching Google and SO for an answer I was sure was already out there, but to my surprise, I couldn't find anything on this issue.
Update:
The conclusion I have come to is that I will just accept the time in the datetime format and let it always default to 12:00:00 AM by only adding the date part during the INSERT statement (e.g. 01/01/2013). As long as the time part always remains the same throughout, the dates will still be easily comparable and I can just trim it up when I convert it to string for screen display. I believe this will be the easiest way to handle this scenario. After all, I decided to use SQL for the power of its queries, otherwise, I might have just used XML instead of a database, in the first place.
No you really can't get rid of the time component. It is part of the data type defined by sql server. I was very annoyed by it until I found that I could still display the dates without the time using JQuery to reformat them with the date formatter plugi:
https://github.com/phstc/jquery-dateFormat
Good Luck!
select CONVERT(date, GETDATE())

sql server: storing datetime vs long text

I have a situation which I can resolve by adding a column which would be a datetime or a ntext type.
In terms of performace, which of these would be better to use. The number of records are more than 60000. I was thinking datetime since I could index on it, but not sure if ntext can be...any suggestion or discussion on which would handle memory,speed better...or any other performance issues?
Update: the column i will add are independent- one is date time and other is text, i can resolve the issue by having anyone, NOTE: I am not trying to store datetime as ntext here.
60000 records is nothing for SQL Server.
So there shouldn't be any noticeable difference. Maybe there would be a difference if it was a REALLY big table (hundreds of millions of records, and above...), but not with your amount of data.
However, as the others already said: your statement that you can either use datetime or ntext sounds very strange to me. If it's really date and/or time values, use datetime and not ntext!!!
EDIT:
Now that you clarified that you don't want to store date values in a text column:
I would suggest that you use the datetime column. It's better than ntext performance wise.
As a side note: if you prefer to use the text column, you should use nvarchar(max) instead of ntext. ntext is slower and deprecated.
If the data is a DATETIME, use a DATETIME.
You will have problems querying a text field when you need to do date and time operations.
Performance wise - DATETIME is 8 bytes and NVARCHAR for storing a date will be longer. Operations that require date/time work will require conversions with an NVARCHAR field, which will be more expensive than simply using a DATETIME column.
These are two completely different fields. If you need to store dates use datetime, if you need to store text use varchar or long text. Do not store dates as text!

DB Performance and data types

I'm supporting an existing application written by another developer and I have a question as to whether the choices the data type the developer chose to store dates is affecting the performance of certain queries.
Relevant information: The application makes heavy use of a "Business Date" field in one of our tables. The data type for this business date is nvarchar(10) rather than a datetime data type. The format of the dates is "MM/DD/YYYY", so Christmas 2007 is stored as "12/25/2007".
Long story short, we have some heavy duty queries that run once a week and are taking a very long time to execute.
I'm re-writing this application from the ground up, but since I'm looking at this, I want to know if there is a performance difference between using the datetime data type compared to storing dates as they are in the current database.
You will both save disk-space and increase performance if you use datetime instead of nvarchar(10).
If you use the date-fields to do date-calculation (DATEADD etc) you will see a massive increase in query-execution-speed, because the fields do not need to be converted to datetime at runtime.
Operations over DATETIMEs are faster than over VARCHARs converted to DATETIMEs.
If your dates appear anywhere but in SELECT clause (like, you add them, DATEDIFF them, search for them in WHERE clause etc), then you should keep them in internal format.
There are a lot of reasons you should actually use DateTime rather than a varchar to store a date. Performance is one... but i would be concerned about queries like this:
SELECT *
FROM Table
WHERE DateField > '12/25/2007'
giving you the wrong results.
I cannot back this up with numbers, but the datetime-type should be a lot faster, since it can easily be compared, unlike the varchar. In my opinion, it is also worth a shot to look into UNIX timestamps as your data type.
I believe from an architectural perspective a Datetime would be a more efficient data type as it would be stored as a two 4-byte integers, whereas your nvarchar(10) will be stored as up to 22 bytes (two times the number of characters entered + 2 bytes.). Therefore potentially more than double the amount of storage space is required now in comparison to using a Datetime.
This of course has possible implications for indexing, as the smaller the data item, the more records you can fit on an index data page. This in turn produces a smaller index which is of course quicker to traverse and therefore will return results faster.
In summary, Datetime is the way to go.
The date filtering in the nvarchar field is not easy possible, as the data in the index is sorted lexicographically which doesn't match the sorting you would expect for the date. It's the problem with the date format "mm/dd/yyyy". That means "12/25/2007" will be after "12/01/2008" in a nvarchar index, but that's not what you want. "yyyy/mm/dd" would have been fine.
So, you should use a date field and convert the string values to date. You will surely get a big performance boost. That's if you can change the table schema.
Yes. datetime will be far more efficient for date calculations than varchar or nvarchar (why nvarchar - there's no way you've got real unicode in there, right?). Plus strings can be invalid and misinterpreted.
If you are only using the date part, your system may have a smaller date-only version of datetime.
In addition, if you are just doing joins and certain types of operations (>/</= comparisions but not datediff), a date "id" column which is actually an int of the form yyyymmdd is commonly used in datawarehouses. This does allow "invalid" dates, unfortunately, but it also allows more obvious reserved, "special", dates, whereas in datetime, you might use NULL of 1/1/1900 or something. Integrity is usually enforced through a foerign key constraint to a date "dimension."
Seeing that you tagged the question as "sql server", I'm assuming you are using some version of SQL Server, so I recommend that you look at either using datetime or smalldatetime. In addition, in SQL Server 2008, you have a date type as well as a datetime2 with a much larger range. Check out this link which gives some details
One other problem with using varchar (or any other string datatype) is that the data likely contains invalid dates as they are not automatically validated on entry. If you try to chang e the filed to a datetime field, you amay have conversion problems wher people have added dates such as ASAP, Unknown, 1/32/2009, etc. You willneed to check for dates that won't convert using the handy isdate function and either fix or null them out before you try to chnge the data type.
Likely you also have a lot of code that converts the varchar type to date datatype on the fly so that you can do date math as well. All that code will also need to be fixed.
Chances are the datetime type is both more compact and faster, but more importantly using DATETIMES to store a date and time is a better architecture choice. You're less likely to run into weird problems looking for records between a certain date range and most database libraries will map them to your languages Date type, so the code is much cleaner, which is really much more important in the long run.
Even if it were slower, you'd spend more time debugging the strings-as-dates than all your users will ever see in savings combined.