There's no emulator for Windows 8, so in order to develop metro apps I must install the release candidate on a device and run Visual Studio there, right? That's what this page seems to suggest, but I just wanted to double check.
Yes, Windows8 is required.
However, VM can be used. For example, I'm running Win8RP/64 and VS2012RC in Oracle VirtualBox on Win7/64.
NOTE: For developing Metro Style App, you should NOT install VirtualBox Extension Pack.
Yes, you need Windows 8 to develop Windows 8 Metro style apps.
Metro Style apps rely on a new set of APIs which are implemented only in Windows 8 through the the Windows Runtime (WinRT).
There is no emulator for Windows 7 and not even for Windows 8... Windows 8 has a simulator which in practice is just a Remote Desktop session to the same machine. It is not an emulator.
While Windows 8 is not in its final version, what I recommend is to install Windows 8 in a VHD (virtual hard disk) and boot your PC directly to the VHD. It is faster than running virtual machines (because only the disk is virtual, all the rest is real hardware) and you can keep your Windows 7 intact.
This is what I've been using since Developer Preview. I have a dual-boot configuration being one for the Windows 7 that is booting from the regular disk partition, and one Windows 8 that is booting directly from the VHD on disk.
Metro UI style is just a design approach and some guidelines. You are free to implement such interface using Visual Studio 2010 as well as 2008. Using C# and WPF everything is possible. But, indeed, new Visual Studio has a set of Metro style components (WPF) with which your development process will be much more quicker.
The only thing you can't use at OS other than Windows 8 - is WinRT subsystem.
Almost all of the development tools needed to build Metro style applications can be run on OS's other than Windows 8 (Visual Studio and the package creation tools require Windows 8). So it should be possible to set up a build environment using msbuild.exe (or even make/nmake) that will compile and link metro-style applications on an OS other than Windows 8.
However some parts of development MUST be done on Windows 8 - the tools for some of the steps of development will only run on Windows 8.
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I am developing a VB.Net based Windows8.1(10) Store application.
After published, I've found out that my App crashes on Windows8.1 while it works fine on Windows10.
So, I want to debug my App on the Windows8.1. However, I cannot find how to do so.
When I [Run] the App to [Simulator], it runs on clone of my computer, but I want to run it on other version of Windows.
Visual Studio 2015 is now installed on Windows10.
Thanks.
Disclaimer: I work on Visual Studio, though not on the Universal/Modern App area.
This is not a supported scenario and there is no feature present in Windows that emulates or simulates previous versions of the "Modern" runtime environment.
The Simulator feature is actually a local-loopback Remote Desktop (Terminal Services) session and existed to make it easier to debug Modern applications given that they could only run in a fullscreen mode, however as this is no-longer the case (as apps are now floating windows) the utility of the Simulator is limited, and as you're discovering is not relevant to your problem.
The only solution I can recommend is to use Hyper-V (or another desktop virtualisation product, such as VirtualBox or VMWare if you don't want a hypervisor installed) to install a dedicated Windows 8.1 environment followed by installing the Visual Studio Remote Debugger.
Given the rapid adoption of Windows 10 (as it is provided as a recommended update to the majority of Windows 8.1 users) I don't personally recommend explicitly targeting the Windows 8.x "Modern" app environment unless you know you will have users or if it's a contract requirement.
I have a universal app for Windows 8.1 and Phone 8.1 and am looking to make the jump to Windows 10.
Looking at the guides, I need to recreate the projects, but does this mean this new project will only work on Windows 10?
What is the strategy for this setup? Keep a Windows 8.1 version and a Windows 10 version? Or does the Windows 10 version work on 8.1?
You can't.
Windows 10 introduces several new API and also included old API's those work in Windows 8. but you just simply can't run Windows 10 app in Windows 8 environment.
if you look at this site: http://www.jayway.com/2015/06/16/do-windows-8-apps-run-on-windows-10/
he tells us that Win 8 app runs Win 10 but lack of some feature such as charm bar and splash screen.
of course this concerns many developer but in my honest opinion, you should just move on to developing app for windows 10. everyone will upgrade, eventually.
there's so many advantages for developing win 10 app, one of them is your app will run on broader device and market.
more info: https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/apps/dn894631.aspx
I've a windows 8 app and a windows 2012 Build Server with Jenkins and / or Finalbulder Contiua.
No I can only install Visual Studio for WinRT Apps only on Windows 8 or later.
So this means ,that my build server has to be windows , right
is there a way to compule windows 8 apps on non windows 8 os ?
Is there some kind of "build win 8 sdk" for other os ?
Short answer: no, you'll need Windows 8 or Windows Server 2012.
A Jenkins-specific tip: I tried a number of things but did not manage to have it start apps when Jenkins runs as a service. Starting from a logged-in user account was the only way I could get it to work.
Also I'd like to recommend our Apprunner project which we developed to install, run and uninstall packages from within Jenkins.
Finally, if you're working on a Javascript-based app, you can have a look at the unit-testing-related code in our SQLite component which uses Jasmine and outputs JUnit/Jenkins-compatible test result files.
What is the difference between Windows 8 Store App and Windows 8 Desktop Application. Can I use Javascript to create Windows 8 Desktop Application. I found an article from Intel which give some difference between these two applications. But it is not clear
Windows 8 Desktop Application
- You can download the softwares and install it . No Marketplace required
- Traditional development tools like C# , C++ , Winforms , WPF etc
Windows 8 Store App
- You can install it only via Windows Store and uploading the app to the store will undergo certification process.
- YOu can develop using XAML with C#/VB.NET/C++ , HTML/JavaSCript/CSS , Embarcadero Prism etc.
- Designed mainly for Touch
no you can't use javascript to write you own desktop program.
Here a simple overview about both type:
Windows 8 Desktop Application:
That just the basic program like notepad, MS Word, AutoCad...
Writing in the know language such as C++, C# ...
Windows 8 Store App
Here you create app in that new start menu. Click on the button in the start menu to open you own app. Here you can write the app also in html5/javascript.
Actually, you can sideload Windows RT apps too, which is useful for LOB apps. Take a look at the Windows RT Development guide -
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=30703
Section titled "Installing developer packages on Windows RT outside the Windows Store" (Pg 19)
HTH
JavaScript can't be used to create a Desktop Application.
see ,desktop apps are those apps that required you to run Setup.exe file and were installed through a Pen drive or a CD or might be you got it from internet.
These apps run on operating system like Windows 7, Windows XP and gave you the full control on what you want to install and what not .
Windows 8 Metro apps are apps on your phone
This I am telling for real understanding.
You go to android store and download temple run for example.
The game is acceded from the online store and you have no discretion on it.similar way we have these metro apps
I want to know whether Metro Applications developed using Visual Studio 11 Developer Preview and .Net FrameWork 4.5 can run in Windows 7 or XP.
Not the normal Windows Form or WPF, I want to know about the all new Metro Apps.
What new things needed to run Metro Apps in Windows XP or Windows 7
What new things needed to run Metro Apps in Windows XP or Windows 7
A virtual machine of Windows 8. Metro apps currently don't run on Windows 7, and definitely don't on Windows XP. According to this thread, it's difficult but might happen eventually:
Keep your eyes out on future Channel 9 videos and on the BCL/CLR blog
for more information around the challeges of enabling the Portable
Library story, however, I will give a quick summary with regards to
ViewModels:
While the ViewModels themselves are defined by the
application, they often take dependencies on types (ie
INotifyXXXChanged interfaces, ICommand, etc) that live inside the
framework. Currently if you look across our multiple .NET platforms
(Silverlight, Phone, .NET and now Metro style apps), these all live in
different assemblies, and with Metro apps, a different
namespace/technology (WinRT). This makes it challeging to give the
user a surface area that can compile against and still have it run on
all these other platforms. We've got some ideas on how we're going to
enable this, however, it requires some work and doesn't come for free.
In saying that, however, we completely see the value and
really, really want to do this.David
But it's not currently possible. At best, you could just make a desktop app version of the same thing.
I tried it on Window 7 and answer is definitely no, you can not even develop Metro style App in Windows 7, for developing also you need Windows 8 and Visual Studio 11.
I'd be astonished if Win8 Metro-Style apps would ever work on Win7 - there is a huge amount of OS level infrastructure necessary to get those apps to work on Win8 that simply isn't available on Win7.
Having said that, people have figured out to write applications that can be made to work on both *nix and Windows with a recompile, so I imagine eventually it might be possible to write an app that could be recompiled to produce a metro-style version and a WPF/Silverlight version. But that technology simply doesn't exist at the moment.
Id say no, based on the fact that Metro requires WinRT which is not available on Windows 7 or XP
This depends on what you might want to do.
For example, if you're developing a game and want it to run on Metro/Modern UI but also on other Windows versions, MonoGame is a great option!
It will allow you to develop for and run on:
All Windows desktops
Windows 8 Metro/Modern UI
Mac OS X
Linux
XBOX 360
iOS
Android
Windows Phone
And possibly more platforms on the future.
In my honest opinion having such a wealth of target platforms warrants any learning curve you might have to develop for MonoGame. And not to mention that you can develop in the comfort of Visual Studio, so IMHO it's something to be considered even if your app is not strictly a game (who said you can't develop a non-game with a game framework...?).
Update: Here's a tutorial, and by the way, you may want to also consider HTML5 for games or non-games. Cut the Rope (very fun game) uses this, and it seems to be doing pretty well (I didn't even notice it was HTML5!).
I am developing an app for the apptivate.ms contest right now. So I can definitely tell you that the Metro apps won't work on Windows 7 or XP.
What is more, the Visual Studio Express version needed for developing the Metro Apps won't even install on Windows 7.
Also, just remember this sentence - "All Windows apps are not Windows 8 apps!"