so my question is relatively simple, can I create VB6 application that references a class in a dll, and then substitute that dll for another at runtime?
Now my intial guess is... no chance in VB6.
So my thoughts turned to a VB.net interop dll. Could I do it in here, and then call the interop dll from the VB?
Again, my guess would be no.... but I'd be happy if someone knew differently.
The only thing that I think would actually work would be DI in .Net, but I'm limited to .net 2, or 3.5 at a big push, so I dont know if that is possible.
So for the background....
I have a dll that a specific site uses, but we dont want to ship that out to everyone. Instead, we want to build a clone dll which just has the interfaces setup so that the VB6 build will complete.
When it gets to the site that needs it, they want to replace the dummy dll, and drop in their version instead.
Note: We do use RegFreeCOM when its gets installed, so I do have the manifest files that I could play around with if needed.
Any ideas would be much appreciated.
Nick
Its a COM dll so its not statically linked to the VB6 exe, so long as the clsids and interface ids are the same in the type library for both DLLs, you can swap them around as you see fit. (If its a VB6 dll this is trivial to do with the 'binary compatibility' build option)
You could also use late binding instead and instead of making a reference directly in your VB6 code, you would create an object and then set that object to an instance.
Examples and information:
MVPS
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It's hard to explain our situaction.
We have a 3-tier application. The engine is a DLL coded in C++, then we have a VB6 ActiveX EXE that access to the engine via API calls, and at the top level we have a Excel Addin (in C# using VSTO framework) calling the middle layer with an interop DLL. At this time, each "connection" from the Addin to the engine creates a new EXE (VB6 uses API calls to access to the engine) and all works fine.
Now we are moving the middle layer to .NET, it works 'presumably' fine (it pass all our Unit test) but, we found an error when we open 2 "connections" at same time (ups, no unit test check this situation because it's a new behavour). The DLL have static objects that it's shared over all instances in the same process and we have interactions between "connections". In our old version each "connection" creates a new EXE with no memory sharing between processes, now it's the same process and they share memory and the static objects.
Following the tips from this question. We tried to build a COM EXE in C# to do an out-of-process objects in the middle layer but we have the same result. They share the static objects, at the end, each connection not creates a independent process.
It's clear, but not affordable at this time, moving API calls to ATL or changing the static objects to instanciable references with a handle and change all the API calls to get/set this handlers. I reviewed all examples in MS All-in-one but I didn't find any solution. Neither it's possible to keep only one connection at time, each workbook can have one connection and in the future we want to explore a Web application with multiple connections at same time.
Any suggestion?
Thanks in advance,
Whether COM starts new EXE per each COM object, or uses single EXE to instantiate all the object is controlled by flags parameters passed to CoRegisterClassObject. See
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms693407(v=vs.85).aspx, and
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms679697(v=vs.85).aspx
You need to pass REGCLS_SINGLEUSE or REGCLS_MULTI_SEPARATE flags.
Now, the trick is to pass this flag, as you might not call this method directly - the details depend on how you implemented the COM EXE.
it's not clear from the question, but it sounds like the "middle layer" you have was built as a VB6 EXE, and you're trying to replace it with a .net DLL. If that's the case, you'll definitely get the behavior you describe.
With a VB6 EXE com project, instantiating a new object starts a new process. With a .net dll (or a Vb6 dll really) you +won't+ get a new process.
You'd either need to create a .net EXE that exposes COM objects just like your VB6 exe does, or (sounds like you've already investigated this) you'll need to refactor your EXE objects to properly handle multiple instances within a single process.
Honestly, it'd probably be better to do that latter, since relying on singletons like this is generally a bad code smell. But it a pinch, you should be able to replicate the behavior of the VB6 exe with a .net project. You just can't do it in a dll.
Was your middle layer created in .Net? If it was, you might be facing the issue that your COM class is been created as a native .net object instead of a COM object. The solution usually involve using Primary Interop Assemblies. Take a look on this SO question to see if it matches your problem.
I have a 64-bit project(which has to be 64-bit as it is an Outlook 2010/64 bit addin) that needs to interface with another Dll of mine, whose job it is to scrape file metadata out of files using the windows Shell32 dll. Now, as you may of guessed, this is posing compatibility problems as I am crossing that 64/32 bit boundary.
I read an article (ok skimmed it, whatever) and from what I understand, it suggested that I use COM as an intermediary and to bridge this gap. So, My question is, can I build a shim DLL in say VB6 (i know, i know) that would act as my com reference and pass the calls on to my 32-bit dll from my 64-bit addin? Can I do this? Has anyone done this? and most importantly, can someone SHOW me how to do this.
Do I create a VB6 COM Dll, reference my .NET assembly and pass all Public functions out via a similar interface, then reference the VB6 dll in my 64-bit addin? is it just that easy?
Thanks for the sanity check..
Andrew
I'm facing problem while reference vb6 dll in .net project. When ever i refer a vb6 dll in .net project the interop dll is created with same version(1.2.0.0). Its creating problem for me as the setup used to deploy the application at client side does not replace the dll if the version is same as before. I want to change the version of the interop dll (created using vb6 dll). I read it cam done using tlbIMP but how to create tlb file for vb6 dll. Or is there is any other way to achieve this.
Thanks
Saurabh
Here's a small batch file we use to create our interop dll so it's strongly named:
sn.exe -i MichiganLTAP.pfx MagicContainerName
tlbimp.exe ourVb6.dll /out:Our.Strongnamed.Interop.dll /asmversion:7.1.0.0 /keycontainer:MagicContainerName /machine:X86 /namespace:Our.Strongnamed /verbose /sysarray
sn.exe -d MagicContainerName
The important switch from your perspective is: /asmversion:7.1.0.0
You should be able to set that to whatever you want. Check out the MSDN Library page for more info on the switches available.
It makes very little sense to make the version number of the interop library different from the version number of the type library that was created by VB6. There is a one-to-one mapping between what's in the interop library vs the code you wrote in VB6. The interop library simply contains IL declarations for the VB6 COM interfaces, there is no actual code. The CLR uses it to quickly generate the RCW for the interface.
Change the type library version number in VB6 with Project + Properties, Make tab, Version number. Major and minor is what counts. Do this only when you make a change in the publicly visible VB6 classes. Doing so is required btw, it avoids DLL Hell.
I want to create an ActiveX DLL from Visual Basic 6 from which I would like to call some public functions. I will call this DLL only from VB6. However, it seems that only classes get exported. Is there any workaround?
I know there is a way to create DLLs from VB6 with standard WINAPI functions. This is not what I want, because I would have to type thousands of Declare instructions, and I would lose the dynamic linking so I don't need to recompile applications when changing the DLL.
I will state my problem just in case anyone has a better idea. I've got a bunch of relatively big projects, each with its own code, and then I have a lot of "Generic" code which is used in several projects. It's an annoyance to add every file to each new project, and having to recompile all of them for each minor change. So I thought of creating a DLL, so I would just "Add reference" when I begin a new project, and don't have to worry anymore about recompiling (at least for minor changes) but I raged when discovered that only classes got exported.
I wouldn't mind to reorganize the code in classes, but it's an overwhelming task: there are some 10 years of 3-4 people code, so it's not something I can do overnight.
Yes, it's easy.
Put all the utility routines in special classes in the DLL.
Set the Instancing property of those classes as GlobalMultiUse.
Build the DLL.
In your client project (with a reference to the DLL) you will now be able to call the functions and subroutines as if they were in a module in that project. You won't need to create any objects.
You can read more in the VB6 manual.
I am very new to VB.net. I have written these objects in VB6 before. I'm just lost in VB.net, but (kicking and screaming) I have to learn how to do this. I've been googling for hours with only minor steps forward. Can anyone post a link that explains start to finish how to do this?
I have managed to write the class object, What I can not tell is how to register it and where the name1 and name2 in the CreateObject("Name1.Name2") come from.
Regsrv32 will not work. It says "Entry Point not found" and will not register it. Also, I can not drop it into the Assemblies directory. I read something about a regasm command one uses, but I can't seem to make this work either.
Thanks in advance for any assistance.
I am going to assume you are not trying to write a COM DLL but rather a complete project that call various sub assemblies like a VB6 EXE call a ActiveX DLL. If you can be more specific about what you are trying to do it would help me better.
Several points about VB.NET versus VB6.
1) For .NET only projects there is no registration. If a EXE or DLL references another .NET DLL the only requirement is that the DLLs be present in the parent's directory.
2) You can do a COM style registration for .NET apps only by registering the .NET assembly in the GAC. However there are several requirements for doing this. Do a search on the .NET GAC and it will give you the scoop on how to do this.
3) You can setup the .NET assembly to use COM in which case it will operate by the rules of COM including registration with regsvr.
You will find for .NET only project that #2, or #3 only come in rare instances. #1 will apply for 90% of your DLL assemblies. Of This is dependent on your project.
A common use for CreateObject is allow for plug-ins or installable libraries. .NET handles this through the Reflection API. With the reflection API you can look in a directory, go through each .NET DLL and see what them and create objects from what you find. Search for .NET Reflection to read up on this.
If your project is .NET only then I recommend that you create a Assembly that is reference by both the master assembly and the individual sub assembly that define the interfaces of the objects you are creating. This when you use the reflection API and determine the Object type you can assign it to a variable of that interface and code it noramlly with intellisense and other aids.
if you have old COM ActiveX Controls or DLLs .NET will generate a wrapper class that exposes the ActiveX Objects to .NET. I would spend some time learning how .NET does this. What I do create a dummy project and have .NET reference the ActiveX stuff I need. I then find the wrapper projects and DLL it made and move them into a central area. That why when I work on subsquent projects using the same ActiveX stuff I know where all the wrappers are.
You have to go to your class library properties and select the option "Register for COM interop". This will make your assembly available to COM.
You want to create what's called a COM Callable Wrapper (aka CCW) for your .NET component. This basically entails setting up some COM interfaces with some GUIDs and either enabling "Register for COM Interop" in the project properties (as mentioned) or using regasm.exe.