I have a Server and N number of clients installed on different hosts. Each host has its self-signed certificate generated during install. The client authentication is turned ON at this point. Which means they can't communicate to each other until these certs are properly imported as described below.
Now, the server needs to import all the clients' certificates. So do all the clients from this single server. This part is really not user friendly to do it during install as either client or the server can be installed independent of each other any time.
What is the better way to import certs between clients and server without the user having to perform some kind of out-of-band manual steps?
PS: The PKI tool I am using can only import/export certificates on a local machine only. Assume I can't change this tool at this time.
In general, this is one of the problems with PKI. It is a pain to securely distribute certificates in an automated fashion.
In an Active Directory domain environment you already have a Kerberos trust in place. Therefore you can use group policy to securely distribute certficates automatically. Don't know if that would apply to you because you haven't given information about your environment/OS etc.
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I am investigating the use of SSL to ensure security when performing remote software updates to embedded systems. This means that I would like to ensure that only specific client machines may communicate with the embedded server system.
I understand that server certificates authenticate the identity of the server and client certificates authenticate the identity of the client and this prevents man in the middle attacks.
What I would like to know is if client certificates can be used in such a way that only clients with specific certificates, compatible with the server, can communicate with the server.
My interpretation so far from reading up on this is that that certificates are used to ensure that either client or server are who they say they are. Not to restrict access to specific clients. Is this correct?
If someone could help clarify this, and provide some pointers, I'd be grateful.
Thanks
I am new to TLS/SSL so this might be a very basic question, but I've been searching a lot an could not find an answer.
I am trying to implement a TLS/SSL client. This client will run on an embedded unit with Windows OS on it (XPe or WES7). My implementation uses GnuTLS.
How do I get the list of trusted authorities to my unit so my client can verify the server's certificate? Is it supposed to be a file stored on the client side, that the client is responsible for keeping up to date? Or can my client somehow get this list from the internet each time it is needed and not maintain it locally?
The Certificating Authority (CA) master certificates are stored client side and the client is responsible for keeping them up to date. Keeping them up to date isn't as hard as it sounds, as CA certificates aren't changed that often - most are valid for 5-10 years at least.
Client side storage is necessary because any given internet site your application uses might be compromised.
To get a list, you might start by looking at the CA certificates distributed with a browser or at the cacerts file distributed with Java. Before releasing your code, you'll probably want to check that the certs you use are genuine by checking them against information provided by the CA.
Go to any Windows machine and run "certman.msc" from command-line. Export each CA certificate (Intermediate Certificates, Trusted Authorities) to file (BER, PEM), then import these certificates into your embedded software. Now you can validate email certificates, the same way Windows does (i.e. using various x.509 related RFCs and CRLs)
I have a web service which is secured through HTTPS. I also have client software which talks to this web service, using libcurl (which may be linked to OpenSSL, or linked to GnuTLS; I don't know which one, it depends on how the user installed libcurl). Because the web service is only ever accessed through the client software and never through the browser, the web service utilizes a self-signed certificate. The client software, in turn, has a copy of this self-signed certificate and explicitly checks the connection against that certificate.
Because of Heartbleed, I want to change the private key and certificate. However I want my users to experience as little service disruption as possible.
For this reason, I cannot change the key/certificate on a fixed date and time. If I do this then all users must upgrade their client software at that exact date and time. Otherwise, the upgraded client software won't work before the server change, while old versions of the client software won't work after the server change.
Ideally, I want to tell my users that I'm going to change the certificate in 1 month, and that they have 1 month time to upgrade the client software. The client software should be compatible with both the old and the new certificate. Then, after 1 month, I can issue another client software update which removes support for the old certificate.
So now we've come to my question: can I append the old certificate and the new certificate into a single .crt file? Will this cause libcurl to accept both certificates? If not, what should I do instead? Does the behavior depend on the SSL library or version?
Tests on OS X seem to indicate that appending both certificates into a single file works, but I don't know whether this is OS X-specific behavior, or whether it works everywhere. My client software has to support a wide range of Unix systems, including Linux (multiple distros) and FreeBSD.
Short answer: You can't.
Long answer:
Yes you can put multiple certificates in a single .crt file, regardless of platforms.
However HTTPS can only serve one certificate, instead of a crt file. So it's not the file that is limiting you, it's the protocol.
You could have a look at SNI https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Server_Name_Indication
to be able to serve another certificate based on the SNI information sent by the client at the beginning of the SSL Handshake
Alternatively, you could use a separate TCP port (or IP, or both) that will serve the new certificate.
But you say
The client software, in turn, has a copy of this self-signed certificate and explicitly checks the connection against that certificate.
This then requires you to release a version of your software for your clients to run, to at least have the copy of the new certificate you are going to use.
I guess you should better use a certificate signed by well-known CA, to decouple your server certificate from its validation chain, but that indeed means paying.
Yes a cert file should be able to hold multiple certificates. I would expect this to be broadly supported.
One of my friend is working on issue related to updating expired digital certificates.
He is working on Java application(Swings I guess), which has 4000 clients. All those need a digital certificate to connect to the application and this certificate expires every year.
At the end of year he needs to update the certificate credentials for all clients. Currently this is manual process, done by connecting to each of 4000 systems either locally or by remote connection.
He is got task to convert this process to be an automated process.
Normally the client-side certificate (used by authenticating the client on the server) needs to be passed to the client physically (on the carrier), otherwise, if the certificate is sent via electronic channels, there's a high risk of interception. But if secure connection is used, then the problem becomes less critical.
So the answer depends on how the client-side application is built. The easiest approach would be to add capabilities to refresh the certificate (before it expires) right from the application. The application would request fresh certificate from the server.
If no such capabilities are built-in and there's no way to add them, then the answer would depend on where the client-side application stores the certificate, used for authentication. If it's some file, then automating remote desktop connection using some automation tool would be the only choice.
We're having an issue with securing an intranet / internet website with SSL where
we can't know the qualified domain name in advance.
Basically, I'm trying to make a program that will be installed on a webserver
outside my direct control, to be accessable over intra- or internet. In either case
I want it to be secure via SSL (https). To do this, I would like to include and
install a SSL certificate on the target machine. My installer is fully prepackaged
and should not require any particular during- or postinstall intervention from my
end. Problem is, I can't know ahead of time the target machine's name or domain
name, so as far as I can tell the SSL connection will be returning warnings (or
worse?) when accessed, since the certificate I include will (must) have a different
name on it.
I really want to avoid those warnings, but I still want to keep it secure. Is there
any way to install a SSL connection without certificate warnings without the domain
name known ahead of time?
Thanks for any help you folks can give.
What you want to do is not possible. Here's why.
A certificate will include a set of names (Common Name, possibly along with Subject Alternative Names, possibly including wildcard names).
The client's web browser will do the following:
The user wanted to visit "https://myapp.mydomain.com/blog/posts/1".
The request is via SSL and the domain name in the request is "myapp.mydomain.com".
Get the certificate from the Web server.
Ensure that at least one of the names in the certificate is exactly equal to, or wildcard-matches, the domain name in the request.
Display the page.
Therefore, you need a certificate with the exact domain name (or a wildcard matching the exact domain name) by which the application will be used. And the certificate needs to be available at the same time as, or later than, the time when the exact domain name of the website becomes known, and cannot be made available any earlier.
You seem to be under the misapprehension that somehow a certificate can "create" or "install" an SSL connection. That is false. The Web server - Apache, IIS, Nginx, LigHTTPD, or whichever one you happen to use - is the program that knows how to every aspect of SSL connectivity. The certificate is just a file that the Web server sends to the client, without even opening or using in any way.
Additionally, the author of a webapp to be distributed is not responsible for creating or distributing certificates, and should not be under the misapprehension that he is responsible. Only the website maintainer should be responsible for obtaining a certificate for his website. As another person remarked, in your installation process or perhaps in a post-installation process, you may ask the person installing the webapp for a certificate. But that is the best you can do.
The best you can do is to buy a wildcard SSL certificate - but wait, it's not what you think. You still need to know the second-level domain (the TLD being ".com") ahead of time. You can effectively ask for a cert that covers *.foo.com - then any site, a.foo.com, b.foo.com will be covered. Of course, these certs are more expensive that FQDN certs because you are doing the buggers out of some extra coin.
-Oisin
Each of those sites should have their own SSL certificate. Why not prompt the user to provide the cert file during installation?
In most (if not all) cases, the SSL certificate is associated with the webserver (apache, IIS, etc.) and is not part of your application. It's up to the admin of the web server to install the certificate and not you as the author of the program.
If your installation program does have the ability to modify the web server configuration, and you are willing to have it use a self-signed certificate, you can script the creation of the certificate to allow the domain name to be input. However, I sense this is not really available to you. Also, a self-signed certificate will generally cause certificate warnings.
If I understand you correctly there might be a solution to your problem now. This solution won't help you, however, if you have no control over specifying what SSL certificates are served from the web server where your program is installed (as mentioned by someone else). If your program itself contains a web server you won't have this issue.
If you start with a trusted https website, you can make cross-domain TLS (SSL) XmlHttpRequests to the web servers that are running your application. This is made possible using the opensource Forge project. The project uses a TLS implementation written in JavaScript and a small Flash swf to handle the cross-domain requests. Your program will need to serve an XML Flash policy file that grants the trusted website access to the web server running the application.
Your program will also need to generate a self-signed SSL certificate and upload it to the trusted website. From there, each program's certificate can be included as trusted via the JavaScript TLS implementation. Alternatively, you can have your program upload its certificate to be signed by a CA you create, using a common or subject alternative name that is appropriate for your use (it doesn't have to be the domain name). Then you can use JavaScript to trust the CA certificate and look for the correct name on each certificate.
For more details check out the Forge project at github:
http://github.com/digitalbazaar/forge/blob/master/README
The links to the blog posts at the end provide more in-depth information about how it works.