I noticed that a lot of sites send a random token with form posts even though the user is not logged into a service requiring authentication. I understand the use of a token when you have an authenticated session, but what is the point in sending one when they aren't authenticated?
Is it common practice to create a session when a user isn't logged in and pair a token to it?
Thanks,
Yes, it is common to track where visitors go, storing search results, or shopping cart information. Sessions can be used for a lot more than just authentication.
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I have integrated discord SSO to sign users in as well as create them an account if one has not been created. Now, I am stuck between deciding if I should use sessions or JWT with local storage on the client to prevent the user having to sign in until expiration. I’m struggling to find any documentation or resources for best practices on how long sessions or JWTs can be persisted for before requiring a user to resign in with SSO. Does anyone have resources or tips on expiration lifetimes for users using SSO?
Ideally, I would want to do something similar to how stackoverlow persists SSOs before requiring a user to sign in again. I’m assuming the life times of a session or refresh token will be the same before requiring the user to re sign in. I would prefer to use JWT since my authorization is based of the users guild roles, which allows me to revoke a token if a user had a role removed and other types of scenarios that I would want to issue the user a new access token.
I have tried asking around in a few discords as well as googling best for how long SSO sessions or JWTs should last until expiring and requiring the user to login again. Unfortunately, I have not found a good source for best or common practices for SSO expiration times.
I am working on a api server which revives requests from a mobile app. I am using JWT with ASP.Net MVC Web API 2. In this Admin gives access of various departments to mobile app users. I set these DeptIds in Claims at the time of Login. On every authorised request from app, in a custom action filter attribute I read claims to match deptId in request URL with claims. This all scenario works fine.
Now my problem is, when Admin revokes access of any particular dept from app user, how should I expire the access_token of that user so that, on Login request call, I can set new Claims. Otherwise, as Admin removes access from server but the deptId still exists in user's Claims so user still have access to that department.
One way is on every request, check in database for access but that increases overhead of server also increases response time. So I don't want to go this way.
I didn't find anything on web how to expire token in JWT. Can any one help on this?
A JWT token happens to be a kind of token that allows it to be self-contained i.e. one can validate it without consulting an external entity.
That also means that there's no external entity that will tell you that the token was revoked or expired. Expiration can only happen by some property in the JWT itself; the exp claim was standardized for that purpose: it will tell the recipient the time after which the information in it must no longer consider to be valid
Authentication and Authorization are different things.
Use JWT for Authentication but not for Authorization. I mean that using JWT you can know who the user are but don't put information about what user can do into the JWT. Check permissions for the user on the server side basing on just user's identity that you got from JWT. You may also put into JWT some information that additionally limits access rights (i.e. blacklisting; for example, social network site creates an access token for a game to access my identity and friends list but not my posts) but don't put there information that directly provides access to some features (i.e. whitelisting). In that way you can easily remove access to some features on your sever-side despite that fact that the user is already logged in with JWT.
I understand you are interested in revoking or invalidating tokens instead of expiring them.
Revoking or invalidating tokens
Unfortunately it's not possible to achieve it
without keeping the track of the tokens somewhere:
Issue a token and add it to a whitelist to keep the track of it.
When validating a token, check the whitelist and refuse the request if it is not whitelisted.
To revoke or invalidate a token, remove it from the whitelist.
This security schema require some trade-offs. Deal with it.
Performance considerations
Regarding your performance concerns: Bear in mind that premature optimization is the root of all evil. You shouldn't optimize until you have a performance problem and you have proven that the performance problem comes from the way you store your tokens.
You could start storing the tokens in the database and then consider a cache in memory, for example. But always be careful when fixing a problem that you currently don't have.
Token identifier
The jti claim should be used to store the token identifier on the token. When validating the token, ensure that it's valid by checking the value of the jti claim against the token identifiers you have on server side.
For the token identifier you could use a UUID.
The task is simple. I want to use Sign In With Twitter as the user's credentials, allowing them to access restricted areas of the site and have their actions be associated with their account.
I am able to sign them in through Twitter. I get back an id, username, oauth tokens, secret tokens, ...
Now let's say the user then makes a site-specific action, like vote on a survey. I want to attribute the vote to their account.
What should I send to the server to prove that the vote is coming from the twitter user that it says it is?
For example, is it enough to send back the twitter id and the vote?
Can others get a hold of this id and then start making votes on the user's behalf?
Should I send twitter id, oauth tokens, and secret token to my server?
Again, how do I verify that these credentials are valid? Do the server need to make a call out to twitter to verify these credentials after every site-specific action? That seems excessive.
Do I have the server verify the credentials once and send back some random session key and then just verify the session key after each request for the remainder of the session?
This sort of thing has been implemented on thousands of sites, so just wondering what that common sense solution is. Sorry if this question has been asked before. In that case, reference to the answer would be greatly appreciated.
Also, I'm on node.js and using hello.js in case there's a stack-specific solution
Thanks
Your session key idea is fine. It will guarantee the association between further requests (e.g. Vote) and the Twitter user ID. The only problem if there is a man-in-the-middle then they capture the session key and can replay requests. This is solved by using HTTPS, which guarantees that no one has messed with an incoming request and hence guarantees the association with a user. And since the session key is short lived there is no chance they can be used in future attacks.
I know this is not the first time the topic is treated in StackOverflow, however, I have some questions I couldn't find an answer to or other questions have opposed answers.
I am doing a rather simple REST API (Silex-PHP) to be consumed initially by just one SPA (backbone app). I don't want to comment all the several authentication methods in this question as that topic is already fully covered on SO. I'll basically create a token for each user, and this token will be attached in every request that requires authentication by the SPA. All the SPA-Server transactions will run under HTTPS. For now, my decision is that the token doesn't expire. Tokens that expire/tokens per session are not complying with the statelessness of REST, right? I understand there's a lot of room for security improvement but that's my scope for now.
I have a model for Tokens, and thus a table in the database for tokens with a FK to user_id. By this I mean the token is not part of my user model.
REGISTER
I have a POST /users (requires no authentication) that creates a user in the database and returns the new user. This complies with the one request one resource rule. However, this brings me certain doubts:
My idea is that at the time to create a new user, create a new token for the user, to immediately return it with the Response, and thus, improving the UX. The user will immediately be able to start using the web app. However, returning the token for such response would break the rule of returning just the resource. Should I instead make two requests together? One to create the user and one to retrieve the token without the user needing to reenter credentials?
If I decided to return the token together with the user, then I believe POST /users would be confusing for the API consumer, and then something like POST /auth/register appears. Once more, I dislike this idea because involves a verb. I really like the simplicity offered in this answer. But then again, I'd need to do two requests together, a POST /users and a POST /tokens. How wrong is it to do two requests together and also, how would I exactly send the relevant information for the token to be attached to a certain user if both requests are sent together?
For now my flow works like follows:
1. Register form makes a POST /users request
2. Server creates a new user and a new token, returns both in the response (break REST rule)
3. Client now attaches token to every Request that needs Authorization
The token never expires, preserving REST statelessness.
EMAIL VALIDATION
Most of the current webapps require email validation without breaking the UX for the users, i.e the users can immediately use the webapp after registering. On the other side, if I return the token with the register request as suggested above, users will immediately have access to every resource without validating emails.
Normally I'd go for the following workflow:
1. Register form sends POST /users request.
2. Server creates a new user with validated_email set to false and stores an email_validation_token. Additionally, the server sends an email generating an URL that contains the email_validation_token.
3. The user clicks on the URL that makes a request: For example POST /users/email_validation/{email_validation_token}
4. Server validates email, sets validated_email to true, generates a token and returns it in the response, redirecting the user to his home page at the same time.
This looks overcomplicated and totally ruins the UX. How'd you go about it?
LOGIN
This is quite simple, for now I am doing it this way so please correct me if wrong:
1. User fills a log in form which makes a request to POST /login sending Basic Auth credentials.
2. Server checks Basic Auth credentials and returns token for the given user.
3. Web app attached the given token to every future request.
login is a verb and thus breaks a REST rule, everyone seems to agree on doing it this way though.
LOGOUT
Why does everyone seem to need a /auth/logout endpoint? From my point of view clicking on "logout" in the web app should basically remove the token from the application and not send it in further requests. The server plays no role in this.
As it is possible that the token is kept in localStorage to prevent losing the token on a possible page refresh, logout would also imply removing the token from the localStorage. But still, this doesn't affect the server. I understand people who need to have a POST /logout are basically working with session tokens, which again break the statelessness of REST.
REMEMBER ME
I understand the remember me basically refers to saving the returned token to the localStorage or not in my case. Is this right?
If you'd recommend any further reading on this topic I'd very much appreciate it. Thanks!
REGISTER
Tokens that expire/tokens per session are not complying with the statelessness of REST, right?
No, there's nothing wrong with that. Many HTTP authentication schemes do have expiring tokens. OAuth2 is super popular for REST services, and many OAuth2 implementations force the client to refresh the access token from time to time.
My idea is that at the time to create a new user, create a new token for the user, to immediately return it with the Response, and thus, improving the UX. The user will immediately be able to start using the web app. However, returning the token for such response would break the rule of returning just the resource. Should I instead make two requests together? One to create the user and one to retrieve the token without the user needing to reenter credentials?
Typically, if you create a new resource following REST best practices, you don't return something in response to a POST like this. Doing this would make the call more RPC-like, so I would agree with you here... it's not perfectly RESTful. I'll offer two solutions to this:
Ignore this, break the best practices. Maybe it's for the best in this case, and making exceptions if they make a lot more sense is sometimes the best thing to do (after careful consideration).
If you want be more RESTful, I'll offer an alternative.
Lets assume you want to use OAuth2 (not a bad idea!). The OAuth2 API is not really RESTful for a number of reasons. I'm my mind it is still better to use a well-defined authentication API, over rolling your own for the sake of being RESTful.
That still leaves you with the problem of creating a user on your API, and in response to this (POST) call, returning a secret which can be used as an access/refresh token.
My alternative is as follows:
You don't need to have a user in order to start a session.
What you can do instead is start the session before you create the user. This guarantees that for any future call, you know you are talking to the same client.
If you start your OAuth2 process and receive your access/refresh token, you can simply do an authenticated POST request on /users. What this means is that your system needs to be aware of 2 types of authenticated users:
Users that logged in with a username/password (`grant_type = passsword1).
Users that logged in 'anonymously' and intend to create a user after the fact. (grant_type = client_credentials).
Once the user is created, you can assign your previously anonymous session with the newly created user entity, thus you don't need to do any access/refresh token exchanges after creation.
EMAIL VALIDATION
Both your suggestions to either:
Prevent the user from using the application until email validation is completed.
Allow the user to use the application immediately
Are done by applications. Which one is more appropriate really depends on your application and what's best for you. Is there any risk associated with a user starting to use an account with an email they don't own? If no, then maybe it's fine to allow the user in right away.
Here's an example where you don't want to do this: Say if the email address is used by other members of your system to add a user as a friend, the email address is a type of identity. If you don't force users to validate their emails, it means I can act on behalf of someone with a different email address. This is similar to being able to receive invitations, etc. Is this an attack vector? Then you might want to consider blocking the user from using the application until the email is validated.
You might also consider only blocking certain features in your application for which the email address might be sensitive. In the previous example, you could prevent people from seeing invitations from other users until the email is validated.
There's no right answer here, it just depends on how you intend to use the email address.
LOGIN
Please just use OAuth2. The flow you describe is already fairly close to how OAuth2 works. Take it one step further an actually use OAuth2. It's pretty great and once you get over the initial hurdle of understanding the protocol, you'll find that it's easier than you thought and fairly straightforward to just implement the bits you specifically need for your API.
Most of the PHP OAuth2 server implementations are not great. They do too much and are somewhat hard to integrate with. Rolling your own is not that hard and you're already fairly close to building something similar.
LOGOUT
The two reasons you might want a logout endpoint are:
If you use cookie/session based authentication and want to tell the server to forget the session. It sounds like this is not an issue for you.
If you want to tell the server to expire the access/refresh token earlier. Yes, you can just remove them from localstorage, and that might be good enough. Forcing to expire them server-side might give you that little extra confidence. What if someone was able to MITM your browser and now has access to your tokens? I might want to quickly logout and expire all existing tokens. It's an edge case, and I personally have never done this, but that could be a reason why you would want it.
REMEMBER ME
Yea, implementing "remember me" with local storage sounds like a good idea.
I originally took the /LOGON and /LOGOUT approach. I'm starting to explore /PRESENCE. It seems it would help me combine both knowing someone's status and authentication.
0 = Offline
1 = Available
2 = Busy
Going from Offline to anything else should include initial validation (aka require username/password). You could use PATCH or PUT for this (depending how you see it).
You are right, SESSION is not allowed in REST, hence there is no need to login or logout in REST service and /login, /logout are not nouns.
For authentication you could use
Basic authentication over SSL
Digest authentication
OAuth 2
HMAC, etc.
I prefer to use PUBLIC KEY and PRIVATE KEY [HMAC]
Private key will never be transmitted over web and I don't care about public key. The public key will be used to make the user specific actions [Who is holding the api key]
Private key will be know by client app and the server. The private key will be used to create signature. You generate a signature token using private key and add the key into the header. The server will also generate the signature and validate the request for handshake.
Authorization: Token 9944b09199c62bcf9418ad846dd0e4bbdfc6ee4b
Now how you will get private key? you have to do it manually like you put facebook, twitter or google api key on you app.
However, in some case you can also return [not recommended] the key only for once like Amazon S3 does. They provide "AWS secret access key" at the registration response.
i have to confess i've had this question for a very long time, never really understand.
say auth token is like a key to a safe, when it expires it's not usable anymore. now we're given a magic refresh token, which can be used to get another usable key, and another... until the magic key expires. so why not just set the expiration of the auth token as the same as refresh token? why bother at all?
what's the valid reason for it, maybe a historical one? really want to know. thanks
I was reading an article the other day by Taiseer Joudeh and I find it very useful he said:
In my own opinion there are three main benefits to use refresh tokens which they are:
Updating access token content: as you know the access tokens are self contained tokens, they contain all the claims (Information) about the authenticated user once they are generated, now if we issue a long lived token (1 month for example) for a user named “Alex” and enrolled him in role “Users” then this information get contained on the token which the Authorization server generated. If you decided later on (2 days after he obtained the token) to add him to the “Admin” role then there is no way to update this information contained in the token generated, you need to ask him to re-authenticate him self again so the Authorization server add this information to this newly generated access token, and this not feasible on most of the cases. You might not be able to reach users who obtained long lived access tokens. So to overcome this issue we need to issue short lived access tokens (30 minutes for example) and use the refresh token to obtain new access token, once you obtain the new access token, the Authorization Server will be able to add new claim for user “Alex” which assigns him to “Admin” role once the new access token being generated
Revoking access from authenticated users: Once the user obtains long lived access token he’ll be able to access the server resources as long as his access token is not expired, there is no standard way to revoke access tokens unless the Authorization Server implements custom logic which forces you to store generated access token in database and do database checks with each request. But with refresh tokens, a system admin can revoke access by simply deleting the refresh token identifier from the database so once the system requests new access token using the deleted refresh token, the Authorization Server will reject this request because the refresh token is no longer available (we’ll come into this with more details).
No need to store or ask for username and password: Using refresh tokens allows you to ask the user for his username and password only one time once he authenticates for the first time, then Authorization Server can issue very long lived refresh token (1 year for example) and the user will stay logged in all this period unless system admin tries to revoke the refresh token. You can think of this as a way to do offline access to server resources, this can be useful if you are building an API which will be consumed by front end application where it is not feasible to keep asking for username/password frequently.
I would like to add to this another perspective.
Stateless authentication without hitting the DB on each request
Let's suppose you want to create a stateless (no session) security mechanism that can do authentication of millions of users, without having to make a database call to do the authentication. With all the traffic your app is getting, saving a DB call on each request is worth a lot! And it needs to be stateless so it can be easily clustered and scaled up to hundreds or even thousands of servers.
With old-fashioned sessions, the user logs in, at which point we read their user info from the database. To avoid having to read it again and again we store it in a session (usually in memory or some clustered cache). We send the session ID to the client in a cookie, which is attached to all subsequent requests. On subsequent requests, we use the session ID to lookup the session, that in turn contains the user info.
Put the user info directly in the access token
But we don't want sessions. So instead of storing the user info in the session, let's just put it in an access token. We sign the token so no one can tamper with it and presto. We can authenticate requests without a session and without having to look up the user info from the DB for each request.
No session ... no way to ban users?
But not having a session has a big downside. What if this user is banned for example? In the old scenario we just remove his session. He then has to log in again, which he won't be able to do. Ban completed. But in the new scenario there is no session. So how can we ban him? We would have to ask him (very politely) to remove his access token. Check each incoming request against a ban list? Yes, would work, but now we again have to make that DB call we don't want.
Compromise with short-lived tokens
If we think it's acceptable that a user might still be able to use his account for, say, 10 minutes after being banned, we can create a situation that is a compromise between checking the DB every request and only on login. And that's where refresh tokens come in. They allow us to use a stateless mechanism with short-lived access tokens. We can't revoke these tokens as no database check is done for them. We only check their expiry date against the current time. But once they expire, the user will need to provide the refresh token to get a new access token. At this point we do check the DB and see that the user has been banned. So we deny the request for an access token and the ban takes effect.
The referenced answer (via #Anders) is helpful, It states:
In case of compromise, the time window it's valid for is limited, but
the tokens are used over SSL, so unlikely to be compromised.
I think the important part is that access tokens will often get logged (especially when used as a query parameter, which is helpful for JSONP), so it's best for them to be short-lived.
There are a few additional reasons, with large-scale implementations of OAuth 2.0 by service providers:
API servers can securely validate access tokens without DB lookups or RPC calls if it's okay to not worry about revocation. This can have strong performance benefits and lessen complexity for the API servers. Best if you're okay with a token revocation taking 30m-60m (or whatever the length of the access token is). Of course, the API servers could also keep an in-memory list of tokens revoked in the last hour too.
Since tokens can have multiple scopes with access to multiple different API services, having short-lived access tokens prevents a developer of API service for getting a lifelong access to a user's data on API service B. Compartmentalization is good for security.
Shortes possible answer:
Refresh tokens allow for scoped / different decay times of tokens. Actual resource tokens are short lived, while the refresh token can remain valid for years (mobile apps). This comes with better security (resource tokens don't have to be protected) and performance (only the refresh token API has to check validity against DB).
The following is an addition to the benefits of refresh tokens that are already mentioned.
Safety First!
Access tokens are short-lived. If someone steals an access token, he will have access to resources only until access token expires.
"...But what if a refresh token is stolen?"
If an attacker steals the refresh token, he can obtain an access token. For this reason, it it recommended that a new refresh token is issued each time a new access token is obtained. If the same refresh token is used twice, it probably means that the refresh token has been stolen.
When the refresh token changes after each use, if the authorization
server ever detects a refresh token was used twice, it means it has
likely been copied and is being used by an attacker, and the
authorization server can revoke all access tokens and refresh tokens
associated with it immediately.
https://www.oauth.com/oauth2-servers/making-authenticated-requests/refreshing-an-access-token/
Of course, this is just another layer of security. The attacker can still have time to obtain access tokens, until the refresh token is used a second time (either by the attacker or the real user).
Always keep in mind that the refresh token must be stored as securely as possible.