This is probably a long shot question, but I try it anyway.
I'm developing hardware using PIC Microcontrollers (MicroChip). Communication is done through a FS USB 2.0 link.
I connect the microcontrollers to a Windows 10 Home edition, version 21H1, build 19043.1826. The processor is an AMD Ryzen 5 3600 6-Core Processor.
First I used the PIC18F45K50, for which everything worked fine from day one. But due to the shortages on the market, I now am experimenting with PIC18F47J53. Both microcontrollers are working fine, as I can (for example) control a MAX7219 controlled display (3 x 7-segment) and also control a bunch of LED's using an STP08CP05TTR. Clock timings seem also ok - I measured it with an oscilloscope.
These 2 microcontrollers are pretty much the same, at least for the core functionality such as USB. The differences that are relevant for the issue I'm reporting here are:
PIC18F45K50 uses internal clock of 8MHz, and has on board correction logic to keep clock synced for HS USB - this is a 5V processor
PIC18F47J53 uses a XTAL of 16MHz, all should be within the USB 2.0 specs - this is a 3.3V processor
I'm using the MPLab X IDE v5.45 with the MCC (MPLab Code Configurator) in which I setup the System Module (to set the correct clock frequencies including the 48MHz for USB) and where I configure the USB.
In both microcontrollers, the setup of the USB is exactly the same. I even checked the 4 files that are automatically generated by MCC, and except for the descriptors (I used different names), all is exactly the same.
When I connect the USB to my PC (same port), then the PIC18F45K50 works perfect. But the PIC18F47J53 gives error code 10.
This does not happen every time. For example, if I try 10 times (connect/disconnect the cable), then I had it 7 times. 1 time the device even didn't appear, and 2 other times I read "The device is working properly.". Although, in the latter case, my software that communicates with my controller isn't working, so there is still something wrong.
Based on the above, the first I would think of is some hardware issue. Although, the strange thing is that things like vendor ID (0x4D8), Product ID (0xA), BCD Device Release (0x100), Serial Number (12345678), etc... seem always to be read out correctly. If there would be a hardware problem, shouldn't I have more random issues with this as well? Or is this data read out in a slower mode than Full Speed (because that could of course explain this)?
Below are screenshots via "Device Manager / Ports (COM & LPT) / my serial device", then selecting the property in the Details.
If I compare the properties from the working microcontroller (PIC18F45K50) with the not working one (PIC18F47J53), it looks like all are exactly the same.
I also tried to compare the D- (CH1) and D+ (CH2) signals between the 2 microcontrollers with my oscilloscope. My USB knowledge is not detailed enough to interpret the signals, but what I can tell is that both look exactly the same to me, both timing wise and voltage level wise. Be aware that the CH2 signal on the PIC18F47J53 (D+), the second screenshot, is clipping in the picture below, but I measured it later and it shows the same voltage level as for the PIC18F45K50.
Does anybody here a single clue where I should look at in the first place? The good news is that I have a working and not working version, so I can start debugging step by step and compare. But some hints as where to start would be appreciated.
EDIT 24JUL2022
I did the measurement with my oscilloscope again. Now I soldered 2 wires to the USB port to be able to easily attach my probes. This time, both D- and D+ signals have a Vpp of about 3.3V. I put some cursors which also shows a pulse-width of about 84ns, which correlates with the USB HS frequency of 12MHz (should be 83.33ns).
I found the issue. The Vusb on my PIC18F47J53 had a bad (or was even not) connected. I gave it another touch of my soldering iron, and bingo! Now the "error 10" has disappeared completely, and each time I connect/disconnect it gives "This device is working properly.", and error 10 never appears. I now also see a continues signal on my oscilloscope - not one that is disappearing after a while. And I could send/receive already some commands.
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I'm trying to connect to stm32f401rbt6 with st-link utility.
The MCU has 6 pins connected, as on the image below.
The target is powered by a lab power supply, target GND is connected to the ST-Link GND
When I plug it to the computer, st-link utility says it can't connect.
Tried:
Update ST-Link firmware
Connect under reset is by default, tried all available methods
Checked connectivity for the pins on the image
Connected with the same ST-Link to other MCU
Desoldered the MCU and soldered another one
The issue is still remain. Please suggest what I'm doing wrong, or how to check that my MCU is alive.
I once had similiar issues and i figuered out, that decoupling capacitors were vital. After soldering this onto the pcb, it worked like a charm.
(Similar question: Stm32CubeProgrammer not connecting (no error msg) using ST-LINK V2 dongle and Lora E5 mini board)
You can try the following suggestions. Some ST devices are a lot more sensitive than others when it comes to programming. I have had some ST devices programming without issues and then using practically the same setup on other devices it just won't work.
Place a 22ohm resistor in series on the SWDIO and SWCLK lines. This link suggests only placing it on the SWDIO line but I found that I needed it on the SWCLK line as well. Typical SWD Circuit
For the ST Link Settings try using these:
Reduce the frequency from 4MHz to a lower frequency
Use SWD
Use connect under reset
Don't use an external pull-up on the NRST line.
Make sure that your programming wires between the ST-LINK and the target board are as short as is conveniently possible.
(This one I must stress as being important) Make sure that your processor's ground pins are all connected very closely together (i.e. the tracks between them are as short as possible) and that very importantly your programmer ground is also connected to the same ground pins very closely.- At high programming speeds a thin or long unbalanced (different length) ground track to the processor can cause a problem with some devices.
Whatever you are using to supply power to the processor must have a supply with a similar voltage as the ST-LINK (mine is 3V) - (although I have found that if the processor supply is 3.3V programming seems to still work most of the time.) (Remember the original ST-Link does not supply power only reads the power level.)
A dodgy programming setup can accidentally set the protection to LEVEL 2 bricking your device - so if you have been trying and not getting any further, it might be time to replace your IC.
Prior to changing / erasing a device that had been programmed to LEVEL 1, you might need to first enable the PCROP_RDP option byte. - Once enabled, you should be able to change from LEVEL 1 to LEVEL 0 that will automatically erase the device.
Some people have suggested holding the device in reset until just after pressing the erase button to enable erasing it.
I hope these suggestions help...
I work with an embedded device that has a USB host port. I would like to connect an iPhone to it and communicate via USB. I have done development on this and ported the functionality to connect to usbmux on the iPhone and have successful communication, however there is another problem.
All development was done with the iPhone connected to a powered USB hub that was connected to my device, as soon as I connected it directly, after enumeration it starts to drain the battery of my embedded device and causes a tension (voltage) drop that causes my device to turn off.
I know that after enumeration usb devices can draw up to 500 mA from the usb port, but I was wondering if there was a way to limit that to 100 mA (while still having the iPhone registered).
I found various questions regarding controlling voltage on the data pins or vcc from the usb port and I understand that's not possible, I'm looking for a software solution (although hardware solutions are welcome).
tl;dr: Is there a way to supply the iPhone with less than 500 mA after enumeration? Could I do this in software? Or do I need a hardware solution? I don't want to turn the port on/off, just limit the power draw of the iPhone.
NOTE: I am using Windows CE 6.0, if it is something that can only be done by modifying the drivers, or having direct access, there is no problem.
P.S. also, if there is a way to do this in *nix (or some other open source OS) that I could look at the source code and port it to Windows CE please let me know.
When a device shares its available configurations (see USB chapter 9), it specifies how much power it requires for each configuration. The host should look at all the available configurations and choose which one it wants.
In practice, however, these things don't work so smoothly.
The last time I looked at this, Windows always chose the first configuration. MacOS always chose the lowest power configuration (or highest, I can't remember). I never looked at WinCE or Linux.
If you're writing/modifying the driver, you can set your own rules for which configuration to choose, including looking for one that's 'self powered'. The iPhone, however, might only have one descriptor that always requests 500mA, bus powered. If so, then you're pretty much screwed since there's no way to let the iPhone know it's not OK to draw power.
That being said, I believe all the iPhone accessories are actually USB host (as opposed to USB device), and given that they don't always supply power, the iPhone must be capable of enumerating self powered.
I like the answer by Russ Schultz but I want to add another one:
No.
The descriptor of the peripheral device, iPhone in this case contains bMaxPower. If you enumerate this device, you also accept the power demand. It is not possible to only supply less, lets say 300 mA, if you already enumerated the device with the 500 mA desriptor. If this is what you wanted.
If the device provides multiple configurations, you are as mentioned by Russ free to write a driver which selects the configuration with less power. Hopefully, the device will then only consume the granted power.
Many peripheral devices just don't care. Most devices only provide one configuration with 500 mA. And there are a lot of devices which just consume more than they say ...
I am a physicist, and I had a revelation a few weeks ago about how I might be able to use my personal computer to get much finer control over laboratory experiments than is typically the case. Before I ran off to try this out though, I wanted to check the feasibility with people who have more expertise than myself in such matters.
The idea is to use the i/o ports---VGA, ethernet, speaker jacks, etc.---on the computer to talk directly to the sensors and actuators in the experimental setup. E.g. cut open one side of an ethernet cable (with the other end attached to the computer) and send each line to a different device. I knew a postdoc who did something very similar using a BeagleBone. He wrote some assembly code that let him sync everything with the internal clock and used the GPIO pins to effectively give him a hybrid signal generator/scope that was completely programmable. It seems like the same thing should be possible with a laptop, and this would have the additional benefit that you can do data analysis from the same device.
The main potential difficulty that I foresee is that the hardware on a BeagleBone is designed with this sort of i/o in mind, whereas I expect the hardware on a laptop will probably be harder to control directly. I know for example (from some preliminary investigation, http://ask.metafilter.com/125812/Simple-USB-control-how-to-blink-an-LED-via-code) that USB ports will be difficult to access this way, and VGA is (according to VGA 15 pin port data read and write using Matlab) impossible. I haven't found anything about using other ports like ethernet or speaker jacks, though.
So the main question is: will this idea be feasible (without investing many months for each new variation of the hardware), and if so what type of i/o (ethernet, speaker jacks, etc.) is likely to be the best bet?
Auxiliary questions are:
Where can I find material to learn how I might go about executing this plan? I'm not even sure what keywords to plug in on Google.
Will the ease with which I can do this depend strongly on operating system or hardware brand?
The only cable I can think of for a pc that can get close to this would be a parallel printer cable which is pretty much gone away. It's a 25 wire cable that data is spread across so that it can send more data at the same time. I'm just not sure if you can target a specific line or if it's more of a left to right fill as data is sent.
To use one on a laptop today would definitely be difficult. You won't find any laptops with parallel ports. There are usb to parallel cables and serial to parallel cables but I would guess that the only control you would have it to the usb or serial interface and not the parallel.
As for Ethernet, you have 4 twisted pair with only 2 pair in use and 2 pair that are extra.
There's some hardware that available called Zwave that you might want to look into. Zwave will allow you to build a network of devices that communicate in a mesh. I'm not sure what kind of response time you need.
I actually just thought of something that might be a good solution. Check out security equipment. There's a lot of equipment available for pc's that monitor doors, windows, sensors, etc. That industry might what your looking for.
I think the easiest way would be to use the USB port as a Human Interface Device (HID) and using a custom built PIC program and a PIC that includes the USB functionality to encode the data to be sent to the computer and in that way be able to program it independently from the OS due to the fact that all mayor OS have the HID USB functionality.
Anyways if you used your MIC/VGA/HDMI whatever other port you still need a device to encode the data or transmit it, and another program inside the computer to decode that data being sent.
And remember that different hardware has different software (drivers) that might decode the raw data in other odd ways rendering your IO hardware dependent.
Hope this helps, but thats why the USB was invented in the first place to make it hardware and os independent.
I have been tasked to write a device driver for an embedded device which will communicate with the micro controller via the SPI interface. Eventually, the USB interface will be used to download updated code externally and used during the verification phase.
My question is, does anyone know of a good reference design or documentation or online tutorial which covers the implementation/design of the USB protocol stack/device driver within an embedded system? I am just starting out and reading through the 650 page USB v2.0 spec is a little daunting at the moment.
Just as a FYI, the micro controller that I am using is a Freescale 9S12.
Mark
Based upon goldenmean's (-AD) comments I wanted to add the following info:
1) The embedded device uses a custom executive and makes no use of a COTS or RTOS.
2) The device will use interrupts to indicate data is ready to be retrieved from the device.
3) I have read through some of the docs regarding Linux, but since I am not at all familiar with Linux it isn't very helpful at the moment (though I am hoping it will be very quickly).
4) The design approach, for now at least, it to write a device driver for the USB device then a USB protocol layer (I/O) would reside on top of the device driver to interpret the data. I would assume this would be the best approach, though I could be wrong.
Edit - A year later
I just wanted to share a few items before they vanish from my mind in case I never work on a USB device again. I ran into a few obstacles when developing code and getting it up and running for the first.
The first problem I ran into was that when the USB device was connected to the Host (Windows in my case) was the host issues a Reset request. The USB device would reset and clear the interrupt enable flags. I didn't read the literature enough to know this was happening, thus I was never receiving the Set-Up Request Interrupt. It took me quite a while to figure this out.
The second problem I ran into was not handling the Set-Up Request for Set_Configuration properly. I was handling it, but I was not processing the request correctly in that the USB device was not sending an ACK when this Set-Up Request came in. I eventually found this out by using a hardware USB protocol analyzer.
There were other issues that I ran into, but these were the two biggest ones that took me quite a while to figure out. The other issue I had to worry about is big-endian and little-endian, Freescale 9S12 vs USB data format (Intel), respectively.
I ended up building the USB device driver similar to UART device drivers I had done in the past. I have posted the code to this at the following URL.
http://lordhog.wordpress.com/2010/12/13/usb-drive
I tend to use structures a lot, so people may not like them since they are not as portal as using #defines (e.g., MAX3420_SETUP_DATA_AVAIL_INT_REQR 0x20), but I like them since it makes the code more readable for me. If anyone has questions regarding it please feel free to e-mail and I can try to give some insight to it. The book "USB Complete: The Developer's Guide" was helpful, so long as you knew what areas to concentrate on. This was a simple application and only used low-speed USB.
While writing a device driver for any interface (USB, Parallel port, etc...) the code needed to be developed would depend upon whether there is any Operating System(OS), RTOS running on that Processor/Micro controller.
e.g. if thats going to run say WinCE - It will have its own Driver development Kit , and steps to be followed in the device driver development. Same for any other OS like Linux, symbian.
If its going to be a plain firmware code(No OS) which is going to control the processor/microcontroller, then it's a different situation altogether.
So based on either of the above situation u are in, one needs to read & understand:-
1.) The Hardware Specification of the processor/micro controller development board - Register files, ports, memory layout, etc.
2.) USB spec
3.) Couple of pointers i found quickly. Google shud be ur friend!
http://www.lrr.in.tum.de/Par/arch/usb/usbdoc/ - Linux USB device driver
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/archive/wce/support/usbce.mspx
-AD
I've used an earlier edition of USB Complete by Jan Axelson. Indeed very complete.
From the editorial review:
Now in its fourth edition, this developer's guide to the Universal Serial Bus (USB) interface covers all aspects of project development, such as hardware design, device firmware, and host application software.
I'm curious, why did you pick the 9S12? I used it at a previous job, and was not pleased.
It had lousy gcc support so we used Metrowerks
which may have been okay for C, but often generated buggy C++
had a lousy IDE with binary project files!
The 9s12 was also slow, a lot of instructions executed in 5 cycles.
Not very power efficient, either.
no barrel shifter, made operations that are common in embedded code slow
not that cheap.
About the only thing I dislike more is an 8051. I'm using an ARM CortexM3 at my current job, it's better than a 9S12 in every way (faster clock, more work done per clock, less power consumption, cheaper, good gcc support, 32-bit vs. 16-bit).
I don't know which hardware you're planning to use but assuming that's flexible, STMicro offers a line of microcontrollers with USB/SPI support and a library of C-code that can be used with their parts. -- I've used their ARM7 series micros for years with great success.
Here is an excellent site maintained by Jonathan Valvano, a professor at the University of Texas. He teaches four courses over there (three undergraduate, one graduate), all are about using a 9S12 microcontroller. His site contains all the lecture notes, lab manuals, and more importantly, starter files, that he uses for all his classes.
The website looks like it's from the 90's, but just dig around a bit and you should find everything you need.
users.ece.utexas.edu/~valvano/
Consider AVR for your next MCU project because of it's wonderful LUFA and V-USB libraries.
I'm working on a project using the Atmel V71. The processor is very powerful and among lot's of high end connectivity offered on chip is a USB engine that will do device or host modes for 480 Mhz or 48Mhz (not USB 3.0). The tools are free and come with a number of host and device USB example projects with all the USB stack code right there. It supports 10 end points and all the transfers are done via DMA so you have most of the processor horsepower available for other tasks. The Atmel USB stack works without needing an RTOS
I'd like to start out with the Arduino to make something that will (preferably) dim my room lights and turn on some recessed lighting for my computer when a button or switch is activated.
First of all, is this even possible with the Arduino?
Secondly, how would I switch on and off real lights with it? Some sort of relay, maybe?
Does anyone know of a good tutorial or something where at least parts of this are covered? I'll have no problems with the programming, just don't know where to start with hardware.
An alternative (and safer than playing with triacs – trust me I've been shocked by one once and that's enough!) is to use X-10 home automation devices.
There is a PC (RS232) device (CM12U UK or CM11 US) you can get to control the others. You can also get lamp modules that fit between your lamp and the wall outlet which allows you to dim the lamp by sending signals over the mains and switch modules which switch loads on and off.
The Arduino has a TTL level RS232 connector (it's basically what the USB connection uses) – Pins 0 and 1 on the Diecimila so you could use that, connect it via a level converter which you can buy or make and connect to the X-10 controller, theirs instructions on the on the Arduino website for making a RS232 port.
Alternatively you could use something like the FireCracker for X-10 which uses 310MHz (US) or 433MHz (UK) and have your Arduino send out RF signals which the TM12U converts into proper X-10 mains signals for the dimmers etc.
In the US the X-10 modules are really cheep as well (sadly not the case in the UK).
Most people do it using triacs. A triac is like two diodes in anti-parallel (in parallel, but with their polarity reversed) with a trigger pin. A triac conducts current in either direction only when it's triggered. Once triggered, it acts as a regular diode, it continues to conduct until the current drops bellow its threshold.
You can see it as a bi-directional switch on a AC line and can vary the mean current by triggering it in different moments relative to the moment the AC sine-wave crosses zero.
Roughly, it works like this: At the AC sine-wave zero, your diodes turn off and your lamp doesn't get any power. If you trigger the diodes, say, halfway through the sine's swing, you lamp will get half the normal current it would get, so it lights with half of it's power, until the sine-wave crosses zero again. At this point you start over.
If you trigger the triac sooner, your lamp will get current for a longer time interval, glowing brighter. If you trigger your triac latter, your lamp glows fainter.
The same applies to any AC load.
It is almost the same principle of PWM for DC. You turn your current source on and off quicker than your load can react, The amount of time it is turned on is proportional to the current your load will receive.
How do you do that with your arduino?
In simple terms you must first find the zero-crossing of the mains, then you set up a timer/delay and at its end you trigger the triac.
To detect the zero-crossing one normally uses an optocoupler. You connect the led side of the coupler with the mains and the transistor side with the interrupt pin of your arduino.
You can connect your arduino IO pins directly to the triacs' triggers, bu I would use another optocoupler just to be on the safe side.
When the sine-wave approaches zero, you get a pulse on your interrupt pin.
At this interrupt you set up a timer. the longer the timer, the less power your load will get. You also reset your triacs' pins state.
At this timers' interrupt you set your IO pins to trigger the triacs.
Of course you must understand a little about the hardware side so you don't fry your board, and burn your house,
And it goes without saying you must be careful not to kill yourself when dealing with mains AC =).
HERE is the project that got me started some time ago.
It uses AVRs so it should be easy to adapt to an arduino.
It is also quite complete, with schematics.
Their software is a bit on the complex side, so you should start with something simpler.
There is just a ton of this kind of stuff at the Make magazine site. I think you can even find some examples of similar hacks.
I use MOSFET for dimming 12V LED strips using Arduino. I chose IRF3710 for my project with a heat sink to be sure, and it works fine. I tested with 12V halogen lamp, it worked too.
I connect PWM output pin from Arduino directly to mosfet's gate pin, and use analogWrite in code to control brightness.
Regarding 2nd question about controlling lights, you can switch on/off 220V using relays, as partially seen on my photo, there are many boards for this, I chose this:
As a quick-start, you can get yourself one of those dimmerpacks (50-80€ for four lamps).
then build the electronics for the arduino to send DMX controls:
Arduino DMX shield
You'll get yourself both the arduino-expirience + a good chance of not frying your surrounding with higher voltage..