Telegram Bots: Can I now start a chat or not? - api

https://core.telegram.org/bots clearly says:
Bots can't initiate conversations with users. A user must either add them to a group or send them a message first.
But if I visit https://telegram.org/blog/login it says
Telegram bots are a powerful communication tool, but until today they couldn't start a conversation. Even if you wanted them to reach out to you, you had to chat them up first.
With the new login widget, moving from interacting with a website to a conversation on Telegram becomes completely frictionless.
So it is somehow possible to start a conversation via the login widget. But how do I do it?
I get a user id. Is there an api endpoint to initiate a chat with the user?

The only way to begin conversing with a Telegram bot is to start the conversation with them yourself. There's no way for the bot to start a conversation with a user themselves.

As you said, telegram clearly says there is no way for bot to start a conversation, the only thing bots can do is sending messages to an old conversation (I mean a user have to start the conversation).

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How to implement Telegram bot as a widget on your website?

I'm trying to create some sort of live chat widget, but with a Telegram bot instead of a real person on the other side. I don't know if it is possible, but ideally, there is a chat window that can be implemented on a website, and establishes a new connection with a telegram bot once you click on it. The end-user should NOT have a Telegram account. I already tried to implement Intergram but it's not exactly what I'm looking for, as it merely forwards the message to a human using webhooks, and the bot is only used as a message broker. I have heard that some customization is possible using tdlib but I'm not sure if it can help me achieve the desired result.
How should I start implementing a chat window with my bot on a website?

Google chat auto-reply bot

Is there any way to configure Google Chat so It will automatically reply when another user sends me a message? Similar to the way vacation reply works for GMAIL.
The trigger will be the message coming from a user. not calling any bot.
Sorry, unfortunately there is no way to do that
You can set your status as "Out of Office" and that will be reflected in chat.
https://support.google.com/mail/answer/25922?co=GENIE.Platform%3DDesktop&hl=en
The API is designed for bots so there is no way via API either.
You can always make a feature request, if you like.

Get chat_id from bot to bot conversation

So What Im trying to accomplish is a bot that forwards messages from one specific user to one specific group chat. I started my testing by using my own chat_id and the bot perfectly forwards my messages to the right groupchat.
The problem is tho, that I want to forward messages that I receive from a bot. So I am trying to gather the chat_id between this bot and my bot but I can't get my head around how I should send and/or receive a message from this bot to gather said chat_id because I cant use it's #username in a /sendMessage? URL.
Why doesn't my bot see messages from other bots? Bots talking to each
other could potentially get stuck in unwelcome loops. To avoid this,
we decided that bots will not be able to see messages from other bots
regardless of mode.
Telegram Bots FAQ

Telegram bots - how can we detect that a user has started typing?

We can get Telegram messages when they are complete and sent via long polling or webhooks, but is there a way to understand when the user has started typing?
I guess this is not a normal case for bots and I dont think there is a straight away method but could we fall back on the Telegram API for messaging apps for that?
Well, actually I found a solution in the current Bot API; inline queries. While they are not intended for this, inline queries send what the user types in to the bot in real-time, so you are alerted as soon as the first characters are typed in.
There is a way in Telegram Core API, named: updateUserTyping.
But there is not any way in Telegram Bot API yet (until today: 2016-10-17).
If you type or send a file to the bot during these processes you do not get any message from Telegram in your webhook, but it's possible they'll add a new feature to detect user typing in future Bot API updates.

How can I send message to specific chatID?

I have chatId and want send messages while execute some tasks from java code. I found this explain on telegram "Bots can't initiate conversations with users. A user must either add them to a group or send them a message first. People can use telegram.me/ links or username search to find your bot." But my task works good when I use https request directly from browser. My bot perfectly answer for requests but how I can do this without user request?
I can not truly understand your case!
Anyway, your bot can send a message to a chat ID Only if the user witch blongs to the specified chat ID added your bot (send start to a bot).
and if it happened then send your message with
/sendMessage