I have an input table in BigQuery that has all fields stored as strings. For example, the table looks like this:
name dob age info
"tom" "11/27/2000" "45" "['one', 'two']"
And in the query, I'm currently doing the following
WITH
table AS (
SELECT
"tom" AS name,
"11/27/2000" AS dob,
"45" AS age,
"['one', 'two']" AS info )
SELECT
EXTRACT( year from PARSE_DATE('%m/%d/%Y', dob)) birth_year,
ANY_value(PARSE_DATE('%m/%d/%Y', dob)) bod,
ANY_VALUE(name) example_name,
ANY_VALUE(SAFE_CAST(age AS INT64)) AS age
FROM
table
GROUP BY
EXTRACT( year from PARSE_DATE('%m/%d/%Y', dob))
Additionally, I tried doing a very basic group by operation casting an item to a string vs not, and I didn't see any performance degradation on a data set of ~1M rows (actually, in this particular case, casting to a string was faster):
Other than it being bad practice to "keep" this all-string table and not convert it into its proper type, what are some of the limitations (either functional or performance-wise) that I would encounter by keeping a table all-string instead of storing it as their proper type. I know there would be a slight increase in size due to storing strings instead of number/date/bool/etc., but what would be the major limitations or performance hits I'd run into if I kept it this way?
Off the top of my head, the only limitations I see are:
Queries would become more complex (though wouldn't really matter if using a query-builder).
A bit more difficult to extract non-string items from array fields.
Inserting data becomes a bit trickier (for example, need to keep track of what the date format is).
But these all seem like very small items that can be worked around. Are there are other, "bigger" reasons why using all string fields would be a huge limitation, either in limiting query-ability or having a huge performance hit in various cases?
First of all - I don't really see any bigger show-stoppers than those you already know and enlisted
Meantime,
though wouldn't really matter if using a query-builder ...
based on above excerpt - I wanted to touch upon some aspect of this approach (storing all as strings)
While we usually concerned about CASTing from string to native type to apply relevant functions and so on, I realized that building complex and generic query with some sort of query builder in some cases requires opposite - cast native type to string for applying function like STRING_AGG [just] as a quick example
So, my thoughts are:
When table is designed for direct user's access with trivial or even complex queries - having native types is beneficial and performance wise and being more friendly for user to understand, etc.
Meantime, if you are developing your own query builder and you design table such that it will be available to users for querying via that query builder with some generic logic being implemented - having all fields in string can be helpful in building the query builder itself.
So it is a balance - you can lose a little in performance but you can win in being able to better implement generic query builder. And such balance depend on nature of your business - both from data prospective and what kind of query you envision to support
Note: your question is quite broad and opinion based (which is btw not much respected on SO) so, obviously my answer - is totally my opinion but based on quite an experience with BigQuery
Are you OK to store string "33/02/2000" as a date in one row and "21st of December 2012" in another row and "22ое октября 2013" in another row?
Are you OK to store string "45" as age in one row and "young" in another row?
Are you OK when age "10" is less than age "9"?
Data types provide some basic data validation mechanism at the database level.
Does BigQuery databases have a notion of indexes?
If yes, then most likely these indexes become useless as soon as you start casting your strings to proper types, such as
SELECT
...
WHERE
age > 10 and age < 30
vs
SELECT
...
WHERE
ANY_VALUE(SAFE_CAST(age AS INT64)) > 10
and ANY_VALUE(SAFE_CAST(age AS INT64)) < 30
It is normal that with less columns/rows you don't feel the problems. You start to feel the problems when your data gets huge.
Major concerns:
Maintenance of the code: Think of future requirements that you may receive. Every conversion for data manipulation will add extra complexity to your code. For example, if your customer asks for retrieving teenagers in future, you'll need to convert string to date to get the age and then be able to do the manupulation.
Data size: The data size has broader impacts that can not be seen at the start. For example if you have N parallel test teams which require own test systems, you'll need to allocate more disk space.
Read Performance: When you have more bytes to read in huge tables it will cost you considerable time. For example typically telco operators have a couple of billions of rows data per month.
If your code complexity increase, you'll need to replicate conversions in multiple places.
Even single of above items should push one to distance from using strings for everything.
I would think the biggest issue with this would be if there are other users of this table/data, for instance if someone is trying to write reports with it and do calculations or charts or date ranges it could be a big headache having to always cast or convert the data with whatever tool they are using. You or someone would likely get a lot of complaints about it.
And if someone decided to build a layer between this data and the reporting tool which converted all of the data, then you may as well just do it one time to the table/data and be done with it.
From the solution below, you might face some storage and performance problems, you can find some guidance in the official documentation:
The main performance problem will come from the CAST operation, remember that the BigQuery Engine will have to deal with a CAST operation for each value per row.
In order to test the compute cost of this operations, I used the following query:
SELECT
street_number
FROM
`bigquery-public-data.austin_311.311_service_requests`
LIMIT
5000
Inspecting the stages executed in the execution details we are able to see the following:
READ
$1:street_number
FROM bigquery-public-data.austin_311.311_service_requests
LIMIT
5000
WRITE
$1
TO __stage00_output
Only the Read, Limit and Write operations are required. However if we execute the same query adding the the CAST operator.
SELECT
CAST(street_number AS int64)
FROM
`bigquery-public-data.austin_311.311_service_requests`
LIMIT
5000
We see that a compute operation is also required in order to perform the cast operation:
READ
$1:street_number
FROM bigquery-public-data.austin_311.311_service_requests
LIMIT
5000
COMPUTE
$10 := CAST($1 AS INT64)
WRITE
$10
TO __stage00_output
Those compute operations will consume some time, that might cause problems when escalating the operation size.
Also, remember that each time that you want to use the data type properties of each data type, you will have to cast your value, and deal with the compute operation time required.
Finally, referring to the storage performance, as you mentioned Strings do not have a fixed size, and that might cause a size increase.
Related
Im making an app that uses both birthday and age to make some deductions,
but as the age can be obtain through the birthday and current date, Im questioning if I should be storing them both and not just the date, for one part I could use the age attribute to simplify some querys without converting dates, what would be the right thing to do following conventions?
Calculations based on data should be always... calculated, not stored. Well, not always, usually, but
it depends on situation. Below are couple of pros and cons:
Cons
calculation logic might change, so stored values will be no loner valid.
or invalid data could be entered (and you will receive invalid data when querying).
or the result changes with time, as age does, eg. today you have 20 years, but in one year you will have 21.
Pros
however, as #RonenAriely mentioned, storing calculated data in order to gain performance is one of pros of such approach.
So, to sum up, you should make calculations, like DATEDIFF(NOW(), DateOfBirth) to get an age, as the result changes in time and the function don't influence performance much.
I would say store just the DOB and calculate the age when using.
I mainly prefer this because age will continuously change and you have to make sure to update it depending on how accurately you are measuring it. This will kind of beat the purpose of computing once and using multiple times because you'll be recomputing a lot of times. Then since it is redundant it'll also unnecessarily occupy space in your tables.
Hope it helped
Generally only birth date is stored.
You can create a common helper method to calculate age. Preferably static to avoid additional memory consumption.
Also saving age in database makes less sense as in such a case you would be required to run a daily cron to see which user's age is increasing by 1 that day and then update in the database.
As said here,
you have to ensure that it is not possible for the derived value to
become out-of-date undetected.
Birthday never goes out-of-date so you would be OK!
Better to follow the normalised approach and only store date of birth. Age would be marginally quicker to retrieve but, for that to be correct, you'd have to refresh the table on a daily basis.
If you were running a DB search on age range, then you could convert min and max ages to an upper and lower date of birth based on the current date and then search accordingly.
I want to optimize the space of my Big Query and google storage tables. Is there a way to find out easily the cumulative space that each field in a table gets? This is not straightforward in my case, since I have a complicated hierarchy with many repeated records.
You can do this in Web UI by simply typing (and not running) below query changing to field of your interest
SELECT <column_name>
FROM YourTable
and looking into Validation Message that consists of respective size
Important - you do not need to run it – just check validation message for bytesProcessed and this will be a size of respective column
Validation is free and invokes so called dry-run
If you need to do such “columns profiling” for many tables or for table with many columns - you can code this with your preferred language using Tables.get API to get table schema ; then loop thru all fields and build respective SELECT statement and finally Dry Run it (within the loop for each column) and get totalBytesProcessed which as you already know is the size of respective column
I don't think this is exposed in any of the meta data.
However, you may be able to easily get good approximations based on your needs. The number of rows is provided, so for some of the data types, you can directly calculate the size:
https://cloud.google.com/bigquery/pricing
For types such as string, you could get the average length by querying e.g. the first 1000 fields, and use this for your storage calculations.
In my application I need a SQL-like query of the documents. The big picture is that there is a page with a paginated table showing the couchdb documents of a certain "type". I have about 15 searchable columns like timestamp, customer name, the us state, different numeric fields, etc. All of these columns are orderable, also there is a filter form allowing the user to filter by each of the fields.
For a more concrete below is a typical query which is a result by a customer setting some of the filter options and following to the second page. Its written in a pseodo-sql code, just to explain the problem:
timestamp > last_weeks_monday_epoch AND timestamp < this_weeks_monday_epoch AND marked_as_test = False AND dataspace="production" AND fico > 650
SORT BY timestamp DESC
LIMIT 15
SKIP 15
This would be a trivial problem if I were using any sql-like database, but couchdb is way more fun ;) To solve this I've created a view with the following structure of the emitted rows:
key: [field, value], id: doc._id, value: null
Now, to resolve the example query above I need to perform a bunch of queries:
{startkey: ["timestamp", last_weeks_monday_epoch], endkey: ["timestamp", this_weeks_monday_epoch]}, the *_epoch here are integers epoch timestamps,
{key: ["marked_as_test", False]},
{key: ["dataspace", "production"]},
{startkey: ["fico", 650], endkey: ["fico", {}]}
Once I have the results of the queries above I calculate intersection of the sets of document IDs and apply the sorting using the result of timestamp query. Than finally I can apply the slice resolving the document IDs of the rows 15-30 and download their content using bulk get operation.
Needless to say, its not the fastest operation. Currently the dataset I'm working with is roughly 10K documents big. I can already see that the part when I'm calculating the intersection of the sets can take like 4 seconds, obviously I need to optimize it further. I'm afraid to think, how slow its going to get in a few months when my dataset doubles, triples, etc.
Ok, so having explained the situation I'm at, let me ask the actual questions.
Is there a better, more natural way to reach my goal without loosing the flexibility of the tool?
Is the view structure I've used optimal ? At some point I was considering using a separate map() function generating the value of each field. This would result in a smaller b-trees but more work of the view server to generate the index. Can I benefit this way ?
The part of algorithm where I have to calculate intersections of the big sets just to later get the slice of the result bothers me. Its not a scalable approach. Does anyone know a better algorithm for this ?
Having map function:
function(doc){
if(doc.marked_as_test) return;
emit([doc.dataspace, doc.timestamp, doc.fico], null):
}
You can made similar request:
http://localhost:5984/db/_design/ddoc/_view/view?startkey=["production", :this_weeks_monday_epoch]&endkey=["production", :last_weeks_monday_epoch, 650]&descending=true&limit=15&skip=15
However, you should pass :this_weeks_monday_epoch and :last_weeks_monday_epoch values from the client side (I believe they are some calculable variables on database side, right?)
If you don't care about dataspace field (e.g. it's always constant), you may move it into the map function code instead of having it in query parameters.
I don't think CouchDB is a good fit for the general solution to your problem. However, there are two basic ways you can mitigate the ways CouchDB fits the problem.
Write/generate a bunch of map() functions that use each separate column as the key (for even better read/query performance, you can even do combinatoric approaches). That way you can do smart filtering and sorting, making use of a bunch of different indices over the data. On the other hand, this will cost extra disk space and index caching performance.
Try to find out which of the filters/sort orders your users actually use, and optimize for those. It seems unlikely that each combination of filters/sort orders is used equally, so you should be able to find some of the most-used patterns and write view functions that are optimal for those patterns.
I like the second option better, but it really depends on your use case. This is one of those things SQL engines have been pretty good at traditionally.
I'm working with data that is natively supplied as rational numbers. I have a slick generic C# class which beautifully represents this data in C# and allows conversion to many other forms. Unfortunately, when I turn around and want to store this in SQL, I've got a couple solutions in mind but none of them are very satisfying.
Here is an example. I have the raw value 2/3 which my new Rational<int>(2, 3) easily handles in C#. The options I've thought of for storing this in the database are as follows:
Just as a decimal/floating point, i.e. value = 0.66666667 of various precisions and exactness.
Pros: this allows me to query the data, e.g. find values < 1.
Cons: it has a loss of exactness and it is ugly when I go to display this simple value back in the UI.
Store as two exact integer fields, e.g. numerator = 2, denominator = 3 of various precisions and exactness.
Pros: This allows me to precisely represent the original value and display it in its simplest form later.
Cons: I now have two fields to represent this value and querying is now complicated/less efficient as every query must perform the arithmetic, e.g. find numerator / denominator < 1.
Serialize as string data, i.e. "2/3". I would be able to know the max string length and have a varchar that could hold this.
Pros: I'm back to one field but with an exact representation.
Cons: querying is pretty much busted and pay a serialization cost.
A combination of #1 & #2.
Pros: easily/efficiently query for ranges of values, and have precise values in the UI.
Cons: three fields (!?!) to hold one piece of data, must keep multiple representations in sync which breaks D.R.Y.
A combination of #1 & #3.
Pros: easily/efficiently query for ranges of values, and have precise values in the UI.
Cons: back down to two fields to hold one piece data, must keep multiple representations in sync which breaks D.R.Y., and must pay extra serialization costs.
Does anyone have another out-of-the-box solution which is better than these? Are there other things I'm not considering? Is there a relatively easy way to do this in SQL that I'm just unaware of?
If you're using SQL Server 2005 or 2008, you have the option to define your own CLR data types:
Beginning with SQL Server 2005, you
can use user-defined types (UDTs) to
extend the scalar type system of the
server, enabling storage of CLR
objects in a SQL Server database. UDTs
can contain multiple elements and can
have behaviors, differentiating them
from the traditional alias data types
which consist of a single SQL Server
system data type.
Because UDTs are accessed by the
system as a whole, their use for
complex data types may negatively
impact performance. Complex data is
generally best modeled using
traditional rows and tables. UDTs in
SQL Server are well suited to the
following:
Date, time, currency, and extended numeric types
Geospatial applications
Encoded or encrypted data
If you can live with the limitations, I can't imagine a better way to map data you're already capturing in a custom class.
I would probably go with Option #4, but use a calculated column for the 3rd column to avoid the sync/DRY issue (and also means you actually only store 2 columns, avoiding the "three fields" issue).
In SQL server, calculated column is defined like so:
CREATE TABLE dbo.Whatever(
Numerator INT NOT NULL,
Denominator INT NOT NULL,
Value AS (Numerator / Denominator) PERSISTED
)
(note you may have to do some type conversion and verification that Denominator is not zero, etc).
Also, SQL 2005 added a PERSISTED calculated column that would get rid of the calculation at query time.
How much precision do you need?
The language, C# or otherwise, will round 2/3rds at a given position in the precision. If it's acceptable for whatever you are working on to use decimal values of say scientific notation of 10, then set the precision accordingly in the db.
If the precision is really a concern, then separate the numerator & denominator. This would ensure you always have access to whatever precision you want, and you can use a computed column to represent the value for quick filtering:
numerator INT,
denominator INT,
result AS CASE WHEN denominator > 0 THEN numerator / denominator ELSE NULL END
I have experimented a little bit with using the geometry data type in SQL Server 2008 to store and manipulate rational numbers. Basically, I assume that the numerator goes in the X slot and the denominator goes in the Y slot of a fictitious geometry point.
This was good for my needs, but it might be useless for yours. That will depend on what your priorities are (performance, code readability, etc.). I personally found that T-SQL for geometry data manipulation is hard to write and read.
how much precision are you looking at ? double/float provide decent precision(in my opinion). Am pretty sure scientific/astronomical data need a lot more precision that that. I do know that libraries like matlab and mathematica are good at these. I found that you can use mathematica with your .net program. Here is the link
Edit: adding more links and quotes
"When Mathematica operates on rational numbers, it gives an exact result no matter how many digits are required" from here
Another good read, but you would have to implement it I guess
What are your thoughts on this? I'm working on integrating some new data that's in a tab-delimited text format, and all of the decimal columns are kept as single integers; in order to determine the decimal amount you need to multiply the number by .01. It does this for things like percentages, weight and pricing information. For example, an item's price is expressed as 3259 in the data files, and when I want to display it I would need to multiply it in order to get the "real" amount of 32.59.
Do you think this is a good or bad idea? Should I be keeping my data structure identical to the one provided by the vendor, or should I make the database columns true decimals and use SSIS or some sort of ETL process to automatically multiply the integer columns into their decimal equivalent? At this point I haven't decided if I am going to use an ORM or Stored Procedures or what to retrieve the data, so I'm trying to think long term and decide which approach to use. I could also easily just handle this in code from a DTO or similar, something along the lines of:
public class Product
{
// ...
private int _price;
public decimal Price
{
get
{
return (this._price * .01);
}
set
{
this._price = (value / .01);
}
}
}
But that seems like extra and unnecessary work on the part of a class. How would you approach this, keeping in mind that the data is provided in the integer format by a vendor that you will regularly need to get updates from.
"Do you think this is a good or bad idea?"
Bad.
"Should I be keeping my data structure identical to the one provided by the vendor?"
No.
"Should I make the database columns true decimals?"
Yes.
It's so much simpler to do what's right. Currently, the data is transmitted with no "." to separate the whole numbers from the decimals; that doesn't any real significance.
The data is decimal. Decimal math works. Use the decimal math provided by your language and database. Don't invent your own version of Decimal arithmetic.
Personally I would much prefer to have the data stored correctly in my database and just do a simple conversion every time an update comes in.
Pedantically: they aren't kept as ints either. They are strings that require parsing.
Philisophically: you have information in the file and you should write data into the database. That means transforming the information in any ways necessary to make it meaningful/useful. If you don't do this transform up front, then you'll be doomed to repeat the transform across all consumers of the database.
There are some scenarios where you aren't allowed to transform the data, such as being able to answer the question: "What was in the file?". Those scenarios would require the data to be written as string - if the parse failed, you wouldn't have an accurate representation of the file.
In my mind the most important facet of using Decimal over Int in this scenario is maintainability.
Data stored in the tables should be clearly meaningful without need for arbitrary manipulation. If manipulation is required is should be clearly evident that it is (such as from the field name).
I recently dealt with data where days of the week were stored as values 2-8. You can not imagine the fall out this caused (testing didn't show the problem for a variety of reasons, but live use did cause political explosions).
If you do ever run in to such a situation, I would be absolutely certain to ensure data can not be written to or read from the table without use of stored procedures or views. This enables you to ensure the necessary manipulation is both enforced and documented. If you don't have both of these, some poor sod who follows you in the future will curse your very name.