In virtual box, their is a slider for how much RAM to allocate to the machine. However, when hovering over with my cursor, it says:
If you assign too much, the machine might not start
Since I have 40gb of RAM, what is too much, and why would alot of ram prevent it from starting?
Incase it was not apparent, I am looking for a programming related answer, not how to use the software.
Not sure about VBox but, in VmWare, if you allocated too much, it wouldn't start because the memory couldn't be taken from the host OS.
The memory was allocated away from the host in one big chunk, and held for as long as the VM was running.
So it would be similar to if you tried to pre-allocate a 60G virtual disk on a drive with only 40G free. Except that would fall over at VM creation time rather than run time.
Trying to grab more memory than the host could provide is something that will cause you an issue when you run the VM rather than when you create it, because, unlike the pre-allocated disk, it's not needed until then.
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qemu-kvm is launched with -mem-prealloc -mem-path /mnt/hugepages/libvort/qemu parameters. Does this mean that the guest memory will be allocated from the hugepages on the host?
Also, libvirt defines the following in domain xml:
<memoryBacking>
<hugepages/>
<locked/>
</memoryBacking>
This basically tells the hypervisor to use hugepages for its guest memory, and these pages will be locked in the host's memory (not allowed to be swapped out).
Are these options work together (-mem-prealloc and libvirt's xml directive), and one supplement the other?
The <hugepages/> element will cause guest RAM to be allocated from the default huge pages size pool, and will cause immediate allocation of those huge pages at QEMU startup. Huge pages are always locked into host RAM.
The <locked/> element is used to control other QEMU memory allocations that are separate from guest RAM. It ensures all non-guest RAM pages are also locked into host RAM.
If you are not trying to overcommit host RAM, then using huge pages on the host side is a very good idea for maximizing performance as it improves page table hit rates. This is true regardless of whether the guest OS in turn uses huge pages. This performance benefit will apply to all workloads and all guest OS.
The KSM feature for when you are trying to overcommit host RAM (ie run many guests whose total RAM exceeds available host RAM). It tries to share RAM pages between guests to avoid risk of swapping during overcommit. KSM has a quite significant penalty in CPU consumption though, so its a tradeoff as to whether it is useful for a particular workload and/or guest OS.
i'm using redis and noticed that it crashes with the following error :
MISCONF Redis is configured to save RDB snapshots
I tried the solution suggested in this post
but everything seems to be OK in term of permissions and space.
htop command tells me that redis is consuming 70% of RAM. i tried to stop / restart redis in order to flush but at startup, the amount of RAM used by redis was growing up dramatically and stops around 66%. I'm pretty sure at this moment no processus was using any redis instance !
what happens there ?
The growing up ram issue is an expected behaviour of Redis at first data load, after restarts, writing the data to disk (snapshot process). Redis tends to allocate memory as much as it can unless you don't use "maxmemory" option at your conf file.
It allocates memory but not release immediately. Sometimes it takes hours, I saw such cases.
Well known fact about Redis is that, it can allocate memory up to twice size of the dataset it keeps.
I suggest you to wait couple of hours without any restart (Redis can work in this time, get/set operations etc.) and keep watching the memory.
Please check that too
Redis will not always free up (return) memory to the OS when keys are
removed. This is not something special about Redis, but it is how most
malloc() implementations work. For example if you fill an instance
with 5GB worth of data, and then remove the equivalent of 2GB of data,
the Resident Set Size (also known as the RSS, which is the number of
memory pages consumed by the process) will probably still be around
5GB, even if Redis will claim that the user memory is around 3GB. This
happens because the underlying allocator can't easily release the
memory. For example often most of the removed keys were allocated in
the same pages as the other keys that still exist.
Virtual Machine:
4CPU
10GB RAM
10GB swap
Java 1.7
-Xms=-Xmx=6144m
Tomcat 7
We observed a very strange behaviour with the JVM. The JVm resident memory began to shrink and the swap usage shot up to over 50%.
Please see below stats from monitoring tools.
http://i44.tinypic.com/206n6sp.jpg
http://i44.tinypic.com/m99hl0.jpg
Any pointers to understand this is grateful.
Thanks!
Or maybe your Java program was idle and it didn't need that memory, and you have high swappiness? In such situation your OS would free RAM just in case and leave only used part.
In my opinion, that is actually good behaviour, why should you waste RAM for process that won't use it?
Unless you run only this one process on VM, then it would be quite good idea to set swappiness to 0 or other small number - this memory was given to this single process, so we may disable swapping it.
Thanks for the response. Yes this is more close to a system troubleshooting than Java but I thought this the right forum to initiate this topic incase anybody has seen such a phenomena with JVM.
Anyways, I had already checked the top and no there was no other process than Java which was hungry for memory. Actually the second top process was utilizing 72MB (RSS).
No the swappiness is not aggressive set on this system but at default 60. One additional information I missed to share is we have 4 app servers in cluster and all showed this behaviour exactly at the same time. AFAIK, JVM does not swap out but the OS would. But all of it is what confusing me.
All these app servers are production and busy serving request so not idle. The used Heap size was at Avg 5 GB used of the the 6GB.
The other interesting thing I found out were some failed messages in the Vmware logs at the same time which is what I'm investigating.
My pc have 3G memory,and I store data into redis.I write data to disk via dump.rdb. I found when dump.rdb is about 1.5G,redis will shut down,why that?
and when I input info in redis-cli,I found all my memory are spent by redis.
how to tackle that?
I use 32bit, ubuntu 12.04.
if I add more memory,32bit machine only can hold 4G memory,so if I will add more 5G data，how to tackle that much dat?
thx guys.
You're hitting the 32 bit process memory limit. 2GB of the address space is reserved for the kernel, leaving only 2GB left. You then read 1.5GB, and presumably do some more stuff with it that involves allocating more memory, and somewhere in this process, you run out.
If you want to be able to use more than that you'll need a machine with more ram and a 64 bit operating system.
Lately I have been thinking about investing in a worthy USB pen drive (something along the lines of this), and install Operating Systems on Virtual Machines and start developing on them.
What I have in mind is that I want to be able to carry my development boxes, being a Windows Distribution for .Net development and a Linux Distribution for stuff like RoR, Perl and whatnot, so that I would be able to carry them around where need be...be it work, school, different computers at home etc...
I am thinking of doing this also for backup purposes...ie to backup my almost-single VM file to an external hd, instead of doing routinely updates to my normal Windows Box. I am also thinking about maybe even committing the VM boxes under Source Control (is that even feasible?)
So, am I on the right track with this ? Do you suggest that I try to implement this out?
How feasible is it to have your development box on Virtual Machine that runs from a USB Pen-Drive ?
I absolutely agree with where you are heading. I wish to do this myself.
But if you don't already know, it's not just about drive size, believe it or not USB Flash drives can be much slower than your spinning disk drives!
This can be a big problem if you plan to actually run the VMs directly from the USB drive!
I've tried running a 4GB Windows XP VM on a 32GB Corsair Survivor and the VM was virtually unusuable! Also copying my 4GB VM off and back onto the drive was also quite slow - about 10 minutes to copy it onto the drive.
If you have an esata port I'd highly recommend looking at high-speed ESata options like this Kanguru 32GB ESata/USB Flash drive OR this 32GB one by OCZ.
The read and write speeds of these drives are much higher over ESata than other USB drives. And you can still use them as USB if you don't have an ESata port. Though if you don't have an ESata port you can buy PCI to ESata cards online and even ESata ExpressCards for your laptop.
EDIT: A side note, you'll find the USB flash drives use FAT instead of NTFS. You don't want to use NTFS because it makes a lot more reads & writes on the disk and your drive will only have a limited number of reads & writes before it dies. But by using FAT you'll be limited to max 2GB file size which might be a problem with your VM. If this is the case, you can split your VM disks into 2GB chunks. Also make sure you backup your VM daily incase your drive does reach it's maximum number of writes. :)
This article on USB thumbdrives states,
Never run disk-intensive applications
directly against files stored on the
thumb drive.
USB thumbdrives utilize flash memory and these have a maximum number of writes before going bad and corruption occurs. The author of the previously linked article found it to be in the range of 10,000 - 100,000 writes but if you are using a disk intensive application this could be an issue.
So if you do this, have an aggressive backup policy to backup your work. Similarly, if when you run your development suite, if it could write to the local hard drive as a temporary workspace this would be ideal.
Hopefully you are talking about interpreted language projects. I couldn't imagine compiling a C/C++ of any size on a VM, let alone a VM running off of a USB drive.
I do it quite frequently with Xen, but also include a bare metal bootable kernel on the drive. This is particularly useful when working on something from which a live CD will be based.
The bad side is the bloat on the VM image to keep it bootable across many machines .. so where you would normally build a very lean and mean paravirtualized kernel only .. you have to also include one that has everything including the kitchen sink (up to what you want, i.e. do you need Audio, or token ring, etc?)
I usually carry two sticks, one has Xen + a patched Linux 2.6.26, the other has my various guest images which are ready to boot either way. A debootstrapped copy of Debian or Ubuntu makes a great starting point to create the former.
If nothing else, its fun to tinker with. Sorry to be a bit GNU/Linux centric, but that's what I use exclusively :) I started messing around with this when I had to find an odd path to upgrading my distro, which was two years behind the current one. So, I strapped a guest, installed what I wanted and pointed GRUB at the new LV for my root file system. Inside, I just mounted my old /home LV and away I went.
Check out MojoPac:
http://www.mojopac.com/
Hard-core gamers use it to take world of warcraft with them on the go -- it should work fine for your development needs, at least on Windows. Use cygwin with it for your unix-dev needs.
I used to do this, and found that compiling was so deathly slow, it wasn't worth it.
Keep in mind that USB flash drives are extremely slow (maybe 10 to 100 times slower) compared to hard drives at random write performance (writing lots of small files to a partition which already has lots of files).
A typical build process using GNU tools will create lots of small files - a simple configure script creates thousands of small files and deletes them again just to test the environment before you even start compiling. You could be waiting a long time.