We are updating our development machines with the specific purpose of optimizing build times.
I'd like to know what people recommend we use to build as a benchmark. Ideally I'd like something that takes 30 seconds or longer on typcial developer boxes, and something that can be built in Visual Studio 2010 or 2008.
Any recommendations appreciated. I will vote you up one, regardless of your suggestion.
Thanks!
DotNetNuke worked well for VB.Net build benchmarking as well.
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I am afraid this is an untypical "unspecific" question...
I have a lot of code in Outlook, and this should also be used by other users. Up to now I am exporting the modules and forms from my Outlook, and import them on the other machines. But this of course is quite a hassle on every change.
So I thought about turning them into an adding - easy to do for example for Excel...
I have done some Research now and the following questions are left:
is it right that the only software really useful is Visual Studio?
i did download the Trial Version of Visual Studio, and digged into it... but it seems I can not copy/paste the existing code, but there are a lot of changes necessary in the code - is that right? Is there a Kind of "translation" for the most common things?
Thanks for your answers,
Max
Not sure if by trial version you mean Visual Studio Express which you can find here:
http://www.microsoft.com/visualstudio/eng/downloads#d-2013-express
In any case this should allow you to copy/paste your code. Also if you are a student/academic you can download the full version for free (https://www.dreamspark.com).
If you don't want to use VS, you could try SharpDevelop and NetOffice as an alternative.
I wrote a series on my blog about how to create an add-in for Outlook. There are quite specific instructions on how to get started, pitfalls I encountered along the way and tips/tricks to help you.
Here is where the series starts: http://www.midniteblog.com/?p=6. You can see all the links for the series here: http://www.midniteblog.com/?s=outlook.
Hope this is helpful for you!
P.S. You definitely want to use Visual Studio for a project like this because of the nature of Microsoft product integration.
I absolutely love the Source Code Ouliner power toy that I use in VS2005 but am upgrading to 2010 and it seems they haven't yet released a new version. Is there anything similar that shows you a basic outline of the file you are currently navigating?
ReSharper, amongst many other features, has a File Structure window which does the same as Source Outliner.
For a free one, try the Solution Navigator in the Microsoft Productivity Power Tools.
Like you, I found this a totally great plug in that saved on the order of minutes per day. No more searching for functions! Luckily Source Outliner has been re-created for VS2010 and is still free. However, sbohlen updated it and it now runs on the (free) DXCore environment. I have been using it ever since I upgraded to VS2010.
You can read along as I got this set up, downloaded all the parts and got it running.
http://unhandled-exceptions.com/blog/index.php/2010/05/23/plugins-for-dxcorecoderushxpresscoderushrefactor-pro-201014-rtm-available/
The download is here:
http://code.google.com/p/dxsourceoutliner/downloads/list
You will also need the DXCore community installer from http://www.devexpress.com
But as a ReSharper user for years now, I will use the File Structure - same sort of view and already built in to R#.
Anyone know of a way to speed up the Visual Studio IDE when you have Telerik RadControls (either windows or web) and JetBrains ReSharper installed? If I disable ReSharper it runs rocking fast, but I love ReSharper a bit too much to drop it. I know it would perform better without the RadControls. Anyone know a way to speed it up?
I switched from DevExpress CodeRush/Refactor! to Resharper (not by choice) and found the IDE became almost unusable. I managed to persuade my boss to let me switch back (on my own personal licence) and now it's like walking back into the sunshine after months in a cold, damp cave.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that maybe you should consider switching to CodeRush and Refactor!
for me this is the same.
I'm Working with a Dell XPS 4gb Ram Quad Core Extreme Stripped disks...
And I also had that problem with telerik controls (mainly aspx - winform not so much).
Anyhow - I had to do a project using a different suite of web controls - and it was as bad as with telerik - or even worse...
What I found (maybe it helps a bit):
a.) Switching to design view slows down the things a lot
--so after doing this I restart VS
b.) Small Solutions (Projects) help also (like mika wrote) --if possible split your solution to several projects (some class libs instead of one big thing)
c.) Use as litte VS addins as possible --I used some nice tools - but at the moment most of them are turned of, because I made the expirience that the things are better the less addins I use.
d.) Run special "resharping sessions" -- what I mean is: turn resharper off, do you normal coding - and from time to time turn it on and "resharp" your code.
This problem (as well as some others) is well knwon (I guess) and I would say that neither resharper (although this tool seems to be somewhat special) nor telerik are gulty.
It is VS which makes the problems - and I did a lot of searches about solutions - but finally I found nothing which really helps.
Notice: I work on a pretty large project at the moment - and the use of respharper is almost impossible. I turned it off - instead I have a lot of nice snippets and macros which help me to do some of the common things.
Conclusion: if telerik + reshaper is to slow for you I guess you have to decide which helps you more :)
I use the telerik controls (ASPX, WPF and Silverlight) in almost every project I make. These tools fasten the things so much - I simply "need them to survive"
This is not much help, but at least the issue is not on your machine only...
Try to work with small solutions. In my machine this means solutions with less than 100k lines of code. Background compilation makes IDE sluggish with large solutions. VB has background compilation on by default, and even without add-ins it gets slower as the solution size grows.
I haven't been able to use ReSharper or CodeRush/Refactor! with VB & RadControls with over 100k line solutions, things just slow down too much. I'm using a Core 2 Duo, 2.4GHz, 4GB machine.
See also: Visual Studio performance and add-ins
Taken from Telerik`s forums:
We are incompatible with JetBrains Resharper indeed. We are competing for the same Visual Studio resources which could potentially create a ton of trouble if you run both of the add-ins together. I doubt that anybody managed to run them together but if you know somebody that did that I'd be really interested in all the details.
So you have to disable Resharper to check out on JustCode. You could always re-enable it later, however, as long as one of them is disabled they coexist happily.
Kind regards,
Tsviatko
the Telerik team
And I am pretty sure you will be way better using only JustCode
We have a new build machine to start using for our programming team. We are still trying to figure out how we want to organize everything to get the best configuration for building EXEs and DLLs.
We are using VB6 and VB.Net 2005, and VSS2005.
We were thinking of making working folders set for each project, release and support tickets. Does anyone have experience with a similar set up? What were your likes/dislikes? Any recommendations (New VSS IDs, folder configuration, setting working folder, updating/building files)?
be agile - just grow it and and don't be afraid to change as you go a long. Pick something very simple to start with and see how it goes.
Here is my simple environment. Decide what you want to do on a desktop to implement the joel test question #2. This in my experience is pivotal. Once you can do the complete build and test on a desktop with one (or a couple of) clicks then you have the basis for an automated build machine.
The trick is get this going quickly using what ever tools are at hand quickly - e.g. VSS and Cruise control, MSBuild etc, and tune. You should be able to get a pretty good (80/20 rule) in a few days of iterative effort.
Edit: Just to answer comment.
Yes you are correct is is be very beneficial to learn from other people experiences (not just their practises). However having set up build environments in may different companies I can say the best thing is once you start with some else's complexity you end up fighting other peoples requirements and assumptions. Yes I've now got experience and I can use that as a metric to start easily.
Watch out for issues when building VB6 components that depend on each other - see discussion in this question.
I was introduced to VisualAssist a few years ago and for me there's no going back. Are there any other tools I'm missing out on?
If you're a vim user, ViEmu is indispensable. It's a plugin available for Visual Studio (SQL Server and Office as well, although it's sold separately) that transforms the editor into Vim.
Another plugin by the same company is Codekana. In its current incarnation, it spruces up code structure considerably, and makes reading code much more pleasurable. Based on several chats with the author, he's planning on growing it into other areas as well.
BeyondCompare : Life-changing folder & file diff with many installable extensions for additional file types. Don't know what I'd do without it.
There's a few things that get installed on every computer I use for development:
ExamDiff is the best light-weight diff program I've found.
Tortoise SVN is the best version control client
Perforce is a way to make your life worse when your company inflicts it upon you.
Just after installing VisualAssist I go after WinMerge, which also significantly simplified my life.
I tried Resharper for a while. It was great but too expensive for my taste and I could not get my employer to purchase it when the trial expired. You might take a look.
I own all of these tools and use them on a regualar basis.
Resharper
CodeRush/Refactor Pro!
NDepend
Gallio/MbUnit