Anyone know of a way to speed up the Visual Studio IDE when you have Telerik RadControls (either windows or web) and JetBrains ReSharper installed? If I disable ReSharper it runs rocking fast, but I love ReSharper a bit too much to drop it. I know it would perform better without the RadControls. Anyone know a way to speed it up?
I switched from DevExpress CodeRush/Refactor! to Resharper (not by choice) and found the IDE became almost unusable. I managed to persuade my boss to let me switch back (on my own personal licence) and now it's like walking back into the sunshine after months in a cold, damp cave.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that maybe you should consider switching to CodeRush and Refactor!
for me this is the same.
I'm Working with a Dell XPS 4gb Ram Quad Core Extreme Stripped disks...
And I also had that problem with telerik controls (mainly aspx - winform not so much).
Anyhow - I had to do a project using a different suite of web controls - and it was as bad as with telerik - or even worse...
What I found (maybe it helps a bit):
a.) Switching to design view slows down the things a lot
--so after doing this I restart VS
b.) Small Solutions (Projects) help also (like mika wrote) --if possible split your solution to several projects (some class libs instead of one big thing)
c.) Use as litte VS addins as possible --I used some nice tools - but at the moment most of them are turned of, because I made the expirience that the things are better the less addins I use.
d.) Run special "resharping sessions" -- what I mean is: turn resharper off, do you normal coding - and from time to time turn it on and "resharp" your code.
This problem (as well as some others) is well knwon (I guess) and I would say that neither resharper (although this tool seems to be somewhat special) nor telerik are gulty.
It is VS which makes the problems - and I did a lot of searches about solutions - but finally I found nothing which really helps.
Notice: I work on a pretty large project at the moment - and the use of respharper is almost impossible. I turned it off - instead I have a lot of nice snippets and macros which help me to do some of the common things.
Conclusion: if telerik + reshaper is to slow for you I guess you have to decide which helps you more :)
I use the telerik controls (ASPX, WPF and Silverlight) in almost every project I make. These tools fasten the things so much - I simply "need them to survive"
This is not much help, but at least the issue is not on your machine only...
Try to work with small solutions. In my machine this means solutions with less than 100k lines of code. Background compilation makes IDE sluggish with large solutions. VB has background compilation on by default, and even without add-ins it gets slower as the solution size grows.
I haven't been able to use ReSharper or CodeRush/Refactor! with VB & RadControls with over 100k line solutions, things just slow down too much. I'm using a Core 2 Duo, 2.4GHz, 4GB machine.
See also: Visual Studio performance and add-ins
Taken from Telerik`s forums:
We are incompatible with JetBrains Resharper indeed. We are competing for the same Visual Studio resources which could potentially create a ton of trouble if you run both of the add-ins together. I doubt that anybody managed to run them together but if you know somebody that did that I'd be really interested in all the details.
So you have to disable Resharper to check out on JustCode. You could always re-enable it later, however, as long as one of them is disabled they coexist happily.
Kind regards,
Tsviatko
the Telerik team
And I am pretty sure you will be way better using only JustCode
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The VS2013 XAMLX designer is very slow with medium sized xaml workflows.
About 10 to 40 seconds for each small change we make.
We don't want to disable the designer and work in xaml directly.
This is what we have done and tried so far (without success)
Disable Resharper
SSD Drive to speed up I.O.
Make sure the machine has enough memory and cpu...
Has anyone got more ideas on how to speed this up?
UPDATE (23-11)
This is a little convoluted, though it might shed some light.
I installed VS2015, which made a huge difference, though the workflows wouldnt work in IIS. The problem was due to a windows update which caused an error. Check this link https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3118750
I was getting errors like this:
FileLoadException: A procedure imported by 'Microsoft.VisualBasic.Activities.Compiler.dll' could not be loaded
So, I am guessing that validation was turned off while the compiler had issues.
It seems like VS2010 had a setting to turn off validation, though I cant find how to do that in 2013
Does this help at all, can anyone suggest a solution?
I have projects I have to do in Classic ASP. It would almost be enjoyable if I could get some of the same features that visual studio has, such as intellisense for objects (I know you get some from Visual Studio if you have everything in the same file, but there are quirks with that, as well), or the dropdowns showing functions like Visual Studio. It would be especially nice if it would recognize include files and use those as well. It seems to me that enough people are still using it that someone must have written something...
It seems to me that enough people are still using it that someone must
have written something
You'd think that, but I've been looking for the same thing for a number of years, and even started trying to add the language to Netbeans, but nothing I have found yet matches what you can do in DreamWeaver.
It's a rubbish program that crashes a lot and is far too expensive, but it's about the only option I have found that is any good beyond Visual Studio (2008 or less).
I searching for and IDE that gives me a (mostly) uniform experience on Linux/Windows and C/C++ and Java. I'm somewhat comfortable with using Netbeans on Windows and I'd like to know what to expect of it on C. I heard the Visual Studio debugger is quite good on C, does this extend to Mono? Is it really more powerful than the one on Netbeans?
I've been using NetBeans for C++ development on Linux for the last month or two and love it. I'm working on an large code base 1+million lines of code. As long as your project references appropriately, I've found that NetBeans will provide "intellisense" information with hardly any issues. Now, it's not perfect, and is definitely not as good as Java, but I've not found a better alternative. NetBeans debugger, which is a front-end to gdb, works well also. Much easier, and in my experience more stable than DDD. I've not tried Mono projects using NetBeans so I can't speak to that.
This link explains how to setup a C++ project in NetBeans and may shed more light on the subject for you. This is for NetBeans 6.7 NetBeans C/C++.
Eclipse CDT is quite usable as well
you can use codeblocks it is also a well and exceptionally good for c/c++.
I don't think so, since it consumes extreme amounts of memory and can hog your CPU completely if you have a lot of projects open. It actually uses every bit of CPU it can if it feels for it, and it does so for a long time, rendering the whole application useless. This is of course completely unacceptable for a modern UI application. It also feels kind of sluggish.
Because of this I switched to Visual Studio Code for Linux. It's not a full blown IDE but I don't need that anyways. I'm not in the "flow" of it yet, but I think it has potential.
The problem of VS C++ is don't have intellisense. Netbeans C++ is a good product. But i suggest DevC++ editor, its free and come with lot of pluggins and intellisense.
We have 3 developers all using the same version (VS 2008 SP1) and we all use large VB projects (windows forms). From time to time, the IDE will have all sorts of issues such as locking up, crashing, and even not being able to drag a form object around or it will just instantly disappear.
On the largest of our projects (which is actually 5 projects in one solution file), a couple people here can only rebuild the project for testing 2 - 3 times before they have to close the studio and reopen it.
Has anyone else experienced this? Does this happen with large C# projects?
Yes, I experience this all the time! It has gotten better in 2008, if you can believe it.
I usually find that the reason has to do with an exception in my own code. The UI might bring in a custom control that does not behave well in design mode, causing the problem.
Sometimes, I will bring up a second execution of VS2008 and attach the debugger to the first execution of VS. Then, I can debug my own code as it is being run in the designer of the first instance. Often, an exception is thrown and I can fix my code to play better in the designer.
In other circumstances, I have no idea why it happens.
I have heard of people having this issue, however, I have never had an issue at all myself.
I have heard that a number of people trace the issues back to the use of ReSharper as the primary cause.
The most common problem I've had that causes the designer to crash is when I create a form where the only constructors require parameters.
To alleviate that, when I need the form only to be instantiated with parameters, I create a private parameterless constructor that the designer can use but which the form's consumers won't see.
I have personally experienced all sorts of designer wickedness with VS2008 sp1. I uninstalled the service pack to return stability to my dev environment. This is an unfortunate answer, but give it a try.
Only thing I've had close to this is the design view crashing and bringing up an error, formerly causing me to have to recreate the form and copy and paste the code across until I learnt how to fix it.
My problem was occurring because of me using ctrl+f a lot though. If you are using big files, this might be what's happening.
Does anyone know of an alternative IDE for Sybase Powerbuilder? It feels pretty clunky, after working with VS2008 and Eclipse.
If not, has anyone successfully worked with this language outside the IDE? I'm not against using a simple text editor, but I find edit-import-regenerate-test-export-edit is clunkier than simply using the Powerbuilder editor.
To date, the only tools I have had any success with are:
PowerGen, for builds (with NUnit and CruiseControl.NET)
ConTEXT, which has syntax highlighting for Powerbuilder
PBL Peeper, which has some interesting features not present in the IDE
EDIT: I added a bounty to draw some wider attention to the question. It would be a very nice thing to have, if it exists.
EDIT: Well that was disappointing. The bounty apparently did not cause even 1 new person to look at the question.
None that I'm aware of, although you could probably use a source control tool, edit in your source control repository, and Get Latest Version from the PB IDE to shorten your text editor cycle. Be warned that there are hacks required to edit anything over 128 ASCII. (My guess is that this is to allow everything Unicode to be source controlled in the most restrictive source control tools.)
As Paul said, PB12 is coming with based on the Visual Studio shell, and will include things like collapsible code blocks, Intellisense, etc.... However, for PB12, this will only be used for WPF targets and a few .NET-type targets (like assemblies), last I heard. Win32 targets will continue to use the "classic" IDE.
Good luck,
Terry.
P.S. Thanks for the PBL Peeper compliment.
The PowerBuilder IDE is clunky, but I don't think developing completely outside the PowerBuilder IDE is a good idea. I think there are just too many dependencies right now.
However, the IDE for PowerBuilder 12 will be built using Microsoft's Visual Studio Isolated Shell so it ought to be much better when that is released. Also, I believe they'll be doing away with the PBL format which ought to make source control much easier to work with.
Certainly something to watch.
What I do is right-click the object and edit source. Then I copy the text and paste it into Notepad++ to edit. I copy and paste back to PowerBuilder, then I can save and see any errors. I've got a fairly decent User Defined Language for PowerScript if anyone's interested.
Added:
Please be aware that I've seen the PB Source editor corrupt DataWindows. They were all large DataWindows. To be safe always export DataWindows to edit.
One tool that will most probably make your PB experience way better is Visual Expert, which provides a good source browser. Such a tool should have been integrated into the PB IDE a long time ago, IMHO. Only problem is that it's not free, as opposed to the other tools you mention.
Regarding using external source editors, you can probably take advantage of OrcaScript, which is a scripting language that lets you perform actions such as export and import of PB objects from outside of the IDE. It will require some effort, but you can setup a basic dev env using batch files with ORCA scripts and some additional external tools. However, this setup will lack any visual editing capabilities, which means no (feasible) GUI or DW work. If you're mostly into NVOs, it could work. But then if that's the case, why use PB in the first place?...
I too have heard PB12's use of VS will be limited to some .NET stuff, which will probably benefit only a very small portion of the PB programmers community. I'm afraid the rest of us are stuck with the awful IDE for years to come.
Other than exporting the source and editing it I don't know of another IDE for PB. One problem you may have is that the exported source contains a lot of syntax that is not documented in the manuals. The PB IDE generates this code but there is no support for creating it by hand. I think you are stuck with the PB IDE
In my modest five Years of experiences starting with Powerbuilder 5/6, now using PB 10, I tempt to :
build my own browser from the classdefinition object based on Powerbuilder
tried to use autohotkey in order to open datawindows comfortable (we have several thousands in the project and i am two-finger-driven)
truly investigated in the idea using an external editor/IDE suppoted by an autohotkey script which is undermined by sybase allowing only mouse-click-usage of PB
using Visual Expert which is neither a truly integration in the IDE, nor is really worth in analyzing datwindow/powerscript interaction
ending by build hopes on PB12 Visual Studio, which lacks - depending on compatibility issues - ...
... i came to the conclusion that there will be no chance in improving Powerbuilder to an state-of-the-art language
In my philosophy - I obtained during those years - I distinguish between two types of OOP-oriented languages:
the one that award using object-orientation like C#, Python, Ruby (C++) etc. and very much the Java-Eclipse/Netbeans-Universe does
the other one that punish using object-orientation like Powerbuilder and the old Visual Basic, for example (which is causative the OOP-Idea comes afterwards and is "plugged in").
Especially the demand that all object should always be compiled (regenerated) and that you could't work with ancestors and descandants concurrently makes it painful to use real OOP.
...In memory of the good old Unix(Solaris)/C++ days...
I was researching a replacement solution that would be similar to PowerBuilder and I came across two that caught my eye.
The first was 'React Studio' https://reactstudio.com/ which I found via Alternativeto.net .
And the second was from an ad at the top of some Google searches but it was similar enough and looked good enough at first glance for me to want to take a closer look at it, and it's called 'Servoy' https://servoy.com/ .
Still researching but I currently have React Studio at the top of our list.
The TextPad editor has a syntax definition file for PowerBuilder 6.x contributed by anr#aon.at that I downloaded for free and customized several years ago. It works fine for later versions (including 8), doing keyword color highlighting on PowerScript srx files. Editing large source files in PB could get it to crash so it's usually safer, faster and more convenient to export to srx file, edit outside the IDE then re-import.