I have a postgres database with several million rows, which drives a web app. The data is static: users don't write to it.
I would like to be able to offer users query-able aggregates (e.g. the sum of all rows with a certain foreign key value), but the size of the database now means it takes 10-15 minutes to calculate such aggregates.
Should I:
start pre-calculating aggregates in the database (since the data is static)
move away from postgres and use something else?
The only problem with 1. is that I don't necessarily know which aggregates users will want, and it will obviously increase the size of the database even further.
If there was a better solution than postgres for such problems, then I'd be very grateful for any suggestions.
You are trying to solve an OLAP (On-Line Analytical Process) data base structure problem with an OLTP (On-Line Transactional Process) database structure.
You should build another set of tables that store just the aggregates and update these tables in the middle of the night. That way your customers can query the aggregate set of tables and it won't interfere with the on-line transation proceessing system at all.
The only caveate is the aggregate data will always be one day behind.
Yes
Possibly. Presumably there are a whole heap of things you would need to consider before changing your RDBMS. If you moved to SQL Server, you would use Indexed views to accomplish this: Improving Performance with SQL Server 2008 Indexed Views
If you store the aggregates in an intermediate Object (something like MyAggragatedResult), you could consider a caching proxy:
class ResultsProxy {
calculateResult(param1, param2) {
.. retrieve from cache
.. if not found, calculate and store in cache
}
}
There are quite a few caching frameworks for java, and most like for other languages/environments such as .Net as well. These solution can take care of invalidation (how long should a result be stored in memory), and memory-management (remove old cache items when reaching memory limit, etc.).
If you have a set of commonly-queried aggregates, it might be best to create an aggregate table that is maintained by triggers (or an observer pattern tied to your OR/M).
Example: say you're writing an accounting system. You keep all the debits and credits in a General Ledger table (GL). Such a table can quickly accumulate tens of millions of rows in a busy organization. To find the balance of a particular account on the balance sheet as of a given day, you would normally have to calculate the sum of all debits and credits to that account up to that date, a calculation that could take several seconds even with a properly indexed table. Calculating all figures of a balance sheet could take minutes.
Instead, you could define an account_balance table. For each account and dates or date ranges of interest (usually each month's end), you maintain a balance figure by using a trigger on the GL table to update balances by adding each delta individually to all applicable balances. This spreads the cost of aggregating these figures over each individual persistence to the database, which will likely reduce it to a negligible performance hit when saving, and will decrease the cost of getting the data from a massive linear operation to a near-constant one.
For that data volume you shouldn't have to move off Postgres.
I'd look to tuning first - 10-15 minutes seems pretty excessive for 'a few million rows'. This ought to be just a few seconds. Note that the out-of-the box config settings for Postgres don't (or at least didn't) allocate much disk buffer memory. You might look at that also.
More complex solutions involve implementing some sort of data mart or an OLAP front-end such as Mondrian over the database. The latter does pre-calculate aggregates and caches them.
If you have a set of common aggregates you can calculate it before hand (like, well, once a week) in a separate table and/or columns and users get it fast.
But I'd seeking the tuning way too - revise your indexing strategy. As your database is read only, you don't need to worry about index updating overhead.
Revise your database configuration, maybe you can squeeze some performance of it - normally default configurations are targeted to easy the life of first-time users and become short-sighted fastly with large databases.
Maybe even some denormalization can speed up things after you revised your indexing and database configuration - and falls in the situation that you need even more performance, but try it as a last resort.
Oracle supports a concept called Query Rewrite. The idea is this:
When you want a lookup (WHERE ID = val) to go faster, you add an index. You don't have to tell the optimizer to use the index - it just does. You don't have to change the query to read FROM the index... you hit the same table as you always did but now instead of reading every block in the table, it reads a few index blocks and knows where to go in the table.
Imagine if you could add something like that for aggregation. Something that the optimizer would just 'use' without being told to change. Let's say you have a table called DAILY_SALES for the last ten years. Some sales managers want monthly sales, some want quarterly, some want yearly.
You could maintain a bunch of extra tables that hold those aggregations and then you'd tell the users to change their query to use a different table. In Oracle, you'd build those as materialized views. You do no work except defining the MV and an MV Log on the source table. Then if a user queries DAILY_SALES for a sum by month, ORACLE will change your query to use an appropriate level of aggregation. The key is WITHOUT changing the query at all.
Maybe other DB's support that... but this is clearly what you are looking for.
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We have about 1.7 million products in our eshop, we want to keep record of how many views this products had for 1 year long period, we want to record the views every atleast 2 hours, the question is what structure to use for this task?
Right now we tried keeping stats for 30 days back in records that have 2 columns classified_id,stats where stats is like a stripped json with format date:views,date:views... for example a record would look like
345422,{051216:23212,051217:64233} where 051216,051217=mm/dd/yy and 23212,64233=number of views
This of course is kinda stupid if you want to go 1 year back since if you want to get the sum of views of say 1000 products you need to fetch like 30mb from the database and calculate it your self.
The other way we think of going right now is just to have a massive table with 3 columns classified_id,date,view and store its recording on its own row, this of course will result in a huge table with hundred of millions of rows , for example if we have 1.8 millions of classifieds and keep records 24/7 for one year every 2 hours we need
1800000*365*12=7.884.000.000(billions with a B) rows which while it is way inside the theoritical limit of postgres I imagine the queries on it(say for updating the views), even with the correct indices, will be taking some time.
Any suggestions? I can't even imagine how google analytics stores the stats...
This number is not as high as you think. In current work we store metrics data for websites and total amount of rows we have is much higher. And in previous job I worked with pg database which collected metrics from mobile network and it collected ~2 billions of records per day. So do not be afraid of billions in number of records.
You will definitely need to partition data - most probably by day. With this amount of data you can find indexes quite useless. Depends on planes you will see in EXPLAIN command output. For example that telco app did not use any indexes at all because they would just slow down whole engine.
Another question is how quick responses for queries you will need. And which steps in granularity (sums over hours/days/weeks etc) for queries you will allow for users. You may even need to make some aggregations for granularities like week or month or quarter.
Addition:
Those ~2billions of records per day in that telco app took ~290GB per day. And it meant inserts of ~23000 records per second using bulk inserts with COPY command. Every bulk was several thousands of records. Raw data were partitioned by minutes. To avoid disk waits db had 4 tablespaces on 4 different disks/ arrays and partitions were distributed over them. PostreSQL was able to handle it all without any problems. So you should think about proper HW configuration too.
Good idea also is to move pg_xlog directory to separate disk or array. No just different filesystem. It all must be separate HW. SSDs I can recommend only in arrays with proper error check. Lately we had problems with corrupted database on single SSD.
First, do not use the database for recording statistics. Or, at the very least, use a different database. The write overhead of the logs will degrade the responsiveness of your webapp. And your daily backups will take much longer because of big tables that do not need to be backed up so frequently.
The "do it yourself" solution of my choice would be to write asynchronously to log files and then process these files afterwards to construct the statistics in your analytics database. There is good code snippet of async write in this response. Or you can benchmark any of the many loggers available for Java.
Also note that there are products like Apache Kafka specifically designed to collect this kind of information.
Another possibility is to create a time series in column oriented database like HBase or Cassandra. In this case you'd have one row per product and as many columns as hits.
Last, if you are going to do it with the database, as #JosMac pointed, create partitions, avoid indexes as much as you can. Set fillfactor storage parameter to 100. You can also consider UNLOGGED tables. But read thoroughly PostgreSQL documentation before turning off the write-ahead log.
Just to raise another non-RDBMS option for you (so a little off topic), you could send text files (CSV, TSV, JSON, Parquet, ORC) to Amazon S3 and use AWS Athena to query it directly using SQL.
Since it will query free text files, you may be able to just send it unfiltered weblogs, and query them through JDBC.
I have a database table with about 700 millions rows plus (growing exponentially) of time based data.
Fields:
PK.ID,
PK.TimeStamp,
Value
I also have 3 other tables grouping this data into Days, Months, Years which contains the sum of the value for each ID in that time period. These tables are updated nightly by a SQL job, the situation has arisen where by the tables will need to updated on the fly when the data in the base table is updated, this can be however up to 2.5 million rows at a time (not very often, typically around 200-500k up to every 5 minutes), is this possible without causing massive performance hits or what would be the best method for achieving this?
N.B
The daily, monthly, year tables can be changed if needed, they are used to speed up queries such as 'Get the monthly totals for these 5 ids for the last 5 years', in raw data this is about 13 million rows of data, from the monthly table its 300 rows.
I do have SSIS available to me.
I cant afford to lock any tables during the process.
700M recors in 5 months mean 8.4B in 5 years (assuming data inflow doesn't grow).
Welcome to the world of big data. It's exciting here and we welcome more and more new residents every day :)
I'll describe three incremental steps that you can take. The first two are just temporary - at some point you'll have too much data and will have to move on. However, each one takes more work and/or more money so it makes sense to take it a step at a time.
Step 1: Better Hardware - Scale up
Faster disks, RAID, and much more RAM will take you some of the way. Scaling up, as this is called, breaks down eventually, but if you data is growing linearly and not exponentially, then it'll keep you floating for a while.
You can also use SQL Server replication to create a copy of your database on another server. Replication works by reading transaction logs and sending them to your replica. Then you can run the scripts that create your aggregate (daily, monthly, annual) tables on a secondary server that won't kill the performance of your primary one.
Step 2: OLAP
Since you have SSIS at your disposal, start discussing multidimensional data. With good design, OLAP Cubes will take you a long way. They may even be enough to manage billions of records and you'll be able to stop there for several years (been there done that, and it carried us for two years or so).
Step 3: Scale Out
Handle more data by distributing the data and its processing over multiple machines. When done right this allows you to scale almost linearly - have more data then add more machines to keep processing time constant.
If you have the $$$, use solutions from Vertica or Greenplum (there may be other options, these are the ones that I'm familiar with).
If you prefer open source / byo, use Hadoop, log event data to files, use MapReduce to process them, store results to HBase or Hypertable. There are many different configurations and solutions here - the whole field is still in its infancy.
Indexed views.
Indexed views will allow you to store and index aggregated data. One of the most useful aspects of them is that you don't even need to directly reference the view in any of your queries. If someone queries an aggregate that's in the view, the query engine will pull data from the view instead of checking the underlying table.
You will pay some overhead to update the view as data changes, but from your scenario it sounds like this would be acceptable.
Why don't you create monthly tables, just to save the info you need for that months. It'd be like simulating multidimensional tables. Or, if you have access to multidimensional systems (oracle, db2 or so), just work with multidimensionality. That works fine with time period problems like yours. At this moment I don't have enough info to give you, but you can learn a lot about it just googling.
Just as an idea.
I'm designing my DB for functionality and performance for realtime AJAX web applications, and I don't currently have the resources to add DB server redundancy or load-balancing.
Unfortunately, I have a table in my DB that could potentially end up storing hundreds of millions of rows, and will need to read and write quickly to prevent lagging the web-interface.
Most, if not all, of the columns in this table are individually indexed, and I'd love to know if there are other ways to ease the burden on the server when running querys on large tables. But is there eventually a cap for the size (in rows or GB) of a table before a single unclustered SQL server starts to choke?
My DB only has a dozen tables, with maybe a couple dozen foriegn key relationships. None of my tables have more than 8 or so columns, and only one or two of these tables will end up storing a large number of rows. Hopefully the simplicity of my DB will make up for the massive amounts of data in these couple tables ...
Rows are limited strictly by the amount of disk space you have available. We have SQL Servers with hundreds of millions of rows of data in them. Of course, those servers are rather large.
In order to keep the web interface snappy you will need to think about how you access that data.
One example is to stay away from any type of aggregate queries which require processing large swaths of data. Things like SUM() can be a killer depending on how much data it's trying to process. In these situations you are much better off calculating any summary or grouped data ahead of time and letting your site query these analytic tables.
Next you'll need to partition the data. Split those partitions across different drive arrays. When SQL needs to go to disk it makes it easier to parallelize the reads. (#Simon touched on this).
Basically, the problem boils down to how much data you need to access at any one time. This is the main problem regardless of the amount of data you have on disk. Even small databases can be choked if the drives are slow and the amount of available RAM in the DB server isn't enough to keep enough of the DB in memory.
Usually for systems like this large amounts of data are basically inert, meaning that it's rarely accessed. For example, a PO system might maintain a history of all invoices ever created, but they really only deal with any active ones.
If your system has similar requirements, then you might have a table that is for active records and simply archive them to another table as part of a nightly process. You could even have statistics like monthly averages (as an example) recomputed as part of that archival.
Just some thoughts.
The only limit is the size of your primary key. Is it an INT or a BIGINT?
SQL will happily store the data without a problem. However, with 100 millions of rows, your best off partitioning the data. There are many good articles on this such as this article.
With partitions, you can have 1 thread per partition working at the same time to parallelise the query even more than is possible without paritioning.
My gut tells me that you will probably be okay, but you'll have to deal with performance. It's going to depend on the acceptable time-to-retrieve results from queries.
For your table with the "hundreds of millions of rows", what percentage of the data is accessed regularly? Is some of the data, rarely accessed? Do some users access selected data and other users select different data? You may benefit from data partitioning.
I have a couple of databases containing simple data which needs to be imported into a new format schema. I've come up with a flexible schema, but it relies on the critical data of the to older DBs to be stored in one table. This table has only a primary key, a foreign key (both int's), a datetime and a decimal field, but adding the count of rows from the two older DBs indicates that the total row count for this new table would be about 200,000,000 rows.
How do I go about dealing with this amount of data? It is data stretching back about 10 years and does need to be available. Fortunately, we don't need to pull out even 1% of it when making queries in the future, but it does all need to be accessible.
I've got ideas based around having multiple tables for year, supplier (of the source data) etc - or even having one database for each year, with the most recent 2 years in one DB (which would also contain the stored procs for managing all this.)
Any and all help, ideas, suggestions very, deeply, much appreciated,
Matt.
Most importantly. consider profiling your queries and measuring where your actual bottlenecks are (try identifying the missing indexes), you might see that you can store everything in a single table, or that buying a few extra hard disks will be enough to get sufficient performance.
Now, for suggestions, have you considered partitioning? You could create partitions per time range, or one partition with the 1% commonly accessed and another with the 99% of the data.
This is roughly equivalent to splitting the tables manually by year or supplier or whatnot, but internally handled by the server.
On the other hand, it might make more sense to actually splitting the tables in 'current' and 'historical'.
Another possible size improvement is using an int (like an epoch) instead of a datetime and provide functions to convert from datetime to int, thus having queries like
SELECT * FROM megaTable WHERE datetime > dateTimeToEpoch('2010-01-23')
This size savings will probably have a cost performance wise if you need to do complex datetime queries. Although on cubes there is the standard technique of storing, instead of an epoch, an int in YYYYMMDD format.
What's the problem with storing this data in a single table? An enterprise-level SQL server like Microsoft SQL 2005 can handle it without much pain.
By the way, do not do tables per year, tables per supplier or other things like this. If you have to store similar set of items, you need one and one only table. Setting multiple tables to store the same type of things will cause problems, like:
Queries would be extremely difficult to write, and performance will be decreased if you have to query from multiple tables.
The database design will be very difficult to understand (especially since it's not something natural to store the same type of items in different places).
You will not be able to easily modify your database (maybe it's not a problem in your case), because instead of changing one table, you would have to change every table.
It would require to automate a bunch of tasks. Let's see you have a table per year. If a new record is inserted on 2011-01-01 00:00:00.001, will a new table be created? Will you check at each insert if you must create a new table? How it would affect performance? Can you test it easily?
If there is a real, visible separation between "recent" and "old" data (for example you have to use daily the data saved the last month only, and you have to keep everything older, but you do not use it), you can build a system with two SQL servers (installed on different machines). The first, highly available server, will serve to handle recent data. The second, less available and optimized for writing, will store everything else. Then, on schedule, a program will move old data from the first one to the second.
With such a small tuple size (2 ints, 1 datetime, 1 decimal) I think you will be fine having a single table with all the results in it. SQL server 2005 does not limit the number of rows in a table.
If you go down this road and run in to performance problems, then it is time to look at alternatives. Until then, I would plow ahead.
EDIT: Assuming you are using DECIMAL(9) or smaller, your total tuple size is 21 bytes which means that you can store the entire table in less than 4 GB of memory. If you have a decent server(8+ GB of memory) and this is the primary memory user, then the table and a secondary index could be stored in memory. This should ensure super fast queries after a slower warm-up time before the cache is populated.
Is it acceptable to dynamically generate the total of the contents of a field using up to 10k records instead of storing the total in a table?
I have some reasons to prefer on-demand generation of a total, but how bad is the performance price on an average home PC? (There would be some joins -ORM managed- involved in figuring the total.)
Let me know if I'm leaving out any info important to deciding the answer.
EDIT: This is a stand-alone program on a user's PC.
If you have appropriate indexing in place, it won't be too bad to do on demand calculations. The reason that I mention indexing is that you haven't specified whether the total is on all the values in a column, or on a subset - if it's a subset, then the fields that make up the filter may need to be indexed, so as to avoid table scans.
Usually it is totally acceptable and even recommended to recalculate values. If you start storing calculated values, you'll face some overhead ensuring that they are always up to date, usually using triggers.
That said, if your specific calculation query turns out to take a lot of time, you might need to go that route, but only do that if you actually hit a performance problem, not upfront.
Using a Sql query you can quickly and inexpensively get the total number of records using the max function.
It is better to generate the total then keep it as a record, the same way as you would keep a persons birth date and determine their age then keep their age.
How offten and by what number of users u must get this total value, how offten data on which total depends are updated.
Maybe only thing you need is to make this big query once a day (or once at all) and save it somewhere in db and then update it when data, on which your total consist, are changed
You "could" calculate the total with SQL (I am assuming you do not want total number of records ... the price total or whatever it is). SQL is quite good at mathematics when it gets told to do so :) No storing of total.
But, as it is all run on the client machine, I think my preference would be to total using C#. Then the business rules for calculating the total are out of the DB/SQL. By that I mean if you had a complex calculation for total that reuired adding say 5% to orders below £50 and the "business" changed it to add 10% to orders below £50 it is done in your "business logic" code rather than in your storage medium (in this case SQL).
Kindness,
Dan
I think that it should not take long, probably less than a second, to generate a sum from 8000-10000 records. Even on a single PC the query plan for this query should be dominated by a single table scan, which will generate mostly sequential I/O.
Proper indexing should make any joins reasonably efficient unless the schema is deeply flawed and unless you have (say) large blob fields in the table the total data volume for the rows should not be very large at all. If you still have performance issues going through an O/R mapper, consider re-casting the functionality as a report where you can control the SQL.