as of right now i'm working at place where's there's a lot of legacy codes and pretty much no useful documentation.
and most of the time we just treat business requirements as whatever that is already implemented previously.
i'm looking for any tools or useful method to keep all the requirements for future use and for regression testing mostly.
i'm thinking of maybe linking them up to tests/unit test too so that the business requirements are linked directly to the coding logic.
Any good tools or resources to get me started?
thanks~
Updates
As of now i'm making things simple on myself by writing use case and then create some simple use case diagram using this awesome tool and then convert each use case into a test plan. The test plan is meant for the end user, thus i just make it into a simple step by step flow. I had plans to automate this part using selenium but it wasn't working that well on our website and was taking too long. It's a bit TDD, but i think it create simple understandable goal for both end user and the developer, i hope.
So for now it's just excel and doc file, lugged into the project doc folder and check into cvs/svn doomed to be outdated and be forgotten :P
Business requirements can be well capture in FitNess tests. As for Unit Test they sur help, and but both together in continuous integration like Hudson to detect regression ASAP.
PS: Sorry pretty much all links go to some articles I wrote because I'm also interested in that subject.
Here are some methods/systems that I have used
HP Quality Center
Big and bulky. Not very agile but it works and has a lot of feautres.
It's used in many larger corporations and if you can afford you can get great support from HP
https://h10078.www1.hp.com/cda/hpms/display/main/hpms_content.jsp?zn=bto&cp=1-11-127-24%5E1131_4000_100__
Bugzilla-Testopia
Open Source test case management extension for Bugzilla, managed by Mozilla. Which is good enough in my book to give it a try.
http://www.mozilla.org/projects/testopia/
Excel/Open Office Calc
Just do everything in spreadsheets and link between them.
Very flexible, everybody knows how to use them and you propbably have the software in your organization already.
Other Open Source Solutions
List of 15+ Open Source Test Management Tools
http://www.jayphilips.com/2009/09/10/15-open-source-test-management-tools/
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Our company is small and in a project only 1 or 2 testers are assigned. And our all test related things are maintained on Excels sheets. And for bug tracking we are using Mantis. We create test cases on Excel sheet and execute them via same.
Is TestLink or any other test management tool will be helpful to us or not. As number of testers are less so there are no merging of test cases are done. Only one QA develop test cases and execute it. Please suggest me if it will be any help to us or not.
If so please suggest only free application
I am working for a startup and we are pretty much using Testlink. Our QA team is always pretty small (in between 1-3). It's very helpful for organizing and keeping the test cases for your whole system. It becomes more useful when you go for a release. You can assign your testers based on a test build so that they can go through test cases one after another and mark which tests are passing or not. Finally, you can generate report based on those for your build.
Hope that helps.
Regardless of if there is only one tester or many, it is still a good practice to make use of a test management tool and using a lightweight solution will make you more productive.
There are many benefits over using a static excel file and we recently put together a short blog post which goes into a little detail of the benefits to organizing your testing process with a test management tool which may be of interest.
If you are using Mantis to track your issues, you will often find that test management tools integrate with tools like this so that when a test fails a ticket is automatically created and this is a huge time saver.
What do you prefer (from your developer's point of view) when it comes to implement a business process?
A Business Process Management System (BPMS) or just your favorite IDE with the needed tools and frameworks (a reporting tool for example)?
What is from your point of view the greatest Benefit of a BPMS compared to an IDE with your personal tools and frameworks?
OK. Maybe I should be more specific... I got to know one specific BPMS which should make it easy to implement a business process by configuring rules. But for me as a developer it is hard to work with the system. I would like to work with text files which I can refactor and I would like to be able to choose the right technology or framework for the job I have to do. Instead the system forces me to configure.
There are rules where I can use java, but even then I have to stick to the systems editor without intellisense etc.
So this leads me to the answer of my own question - I would like to use the tools I am used to instead of having to learn how to work with a BPMS (at least the one I know) because it limits me more than it helps. The BPMS I know is a framework from which it is hard to escape! At this time, I would prefer a framework like Grail over any BPMS I know.
So maybe the more specific question is: do you feel the same or are there BPMSes which support you in beeing a developer and think like a developer or do most of them force you to do your job a different way?
In my experience the development environments provided by BPMS systems are third rate, unproductive, and practically force you to write hard to maintain, poorly designed code (due to their limitations). Almost all the "features" (UI, integrations, etc) provided by the BPMS system I'm familiar with (the one sold by that company named for its database) were not worth the money we paid.
If you're forced to use BPMS, as a developer, my advice would be to build as much of your application in a conventional development environment, such as Java or .Net, build as little as possible in the BPMS environment itself, and integrate the two. The only things that should go in the BPMS is the minimum to make the business process work.
Not sure what exactly you ask, but the choice BPM vs. plain programming will depend on the requirements. A "business process" is a relatively vague term in software engineering.
Here are a few criterion to evaluate your needs:
complexity of the rules - Are the decisions/rules embodied in your process simple, complicated, configurable, hard-coded?
volatility of the process - How frequently does your process change? Who should be able to make the change?
integration need - Is your process realized using multiple heterogenous services, or is all implemented in the same language?
synchronous/asynchrounous - Is your process "long-running" with the need to handle asynchronous actions?
human tasks - Does your process involves human interaction, with task being assigned/routed to people according to their roles/responsibilities?
monitoring of the process - What is the level of control you want on the existing process instances being executed? Do you need to audit the actions, etc. ?
error handling - Depending on the previous points, how do you plan to deal with errors, or retry of faulty process execution?
Depending on the answer to these questions, you may realize that your process is closer to a simple state chart with a few actions and decisions that can be executed in a sequence, or you may realize that you need something more elaborated, and that you don't want to re-implement all that yourself.
Between plain programming and a full-fledge BPM solution (e.g. Oracle BPM suite which contains BPEL, rule engine, etc.), there are intermediate solutions such as jBPM or Windows Workflow Foundation and probably a lot of others. These intermediate solution are frequently good trade-off.
I have worked with Biztalk in the past and more recently with JBPM. My opinion is biased against BPMs for the following reasons:
Steep learning curve : To make a process work, I have to understand how the system and the editor works. It is hard enough for a developer to understand the system, let alone a business user. The drag and drop and visual representation is a great demo tool. It certainly impresses managers (who ultimately pay for it), but a developer's productivity just drops.
Non developers changing the workflow : I haven't seen one BPM solution do it flawlessly. Though it doesn't look like code, right click on the box and you do have to put some code, otherwise it is not going to work. So you definitely need a developer to do it. The best part is that it is neither developer friendly nor business user friendly, just demo user friendly.
Testablity and refactoring : It is virtually impossible to test drive a BPMS. You do have 'unit test frameworks' advertised, but most of them are hacks and hard to use. Recently I tried the JBPM one; I ended up writing a lot of glue code and fake workflow handlers to make it work. The deal breaker for me though is refactoring. If the business radically changes it's mind about how a business process should look, then good luck re-arranging the boxes, because just re-arranging them won't work, all the variables bound to the boxes also need to be re-arranged. I would prefer the power of the IDE and tests to refactor my business process.
If your application has workflow, then you could try a workflow library (with or without persistent state). It will still manage your workflows without all the bloat that comes with a BPM. If a business user needs to understand the code, then let the business prepare good process flowcharts and translate them into good domain driven code. Use cucumber style acceptance tests to make bring the developers and business together. A BPM is just something that tries to do too many things and ends up doing all those things badly.
BPMS-- a lot of common business case, use case are already implemented. So you just have to know how to use it. For common workflow, you don't even need to write a single line of code, though mostly you would have to write some scripts to cover things that are not yet implemented.
Plain programming-- just use the IDE to hack out the code. The positive side: more control. The negative? A lot of times are spent on rewriting boilerplate code. And you have to maintain them.
So in a nutshell, I would prefer a Business Process Management System. One that I would recommend is ProcessMaker. It features an intuitive process designer that allows you to design workflow with drag and drop. And you can always write trigger to extend the process functionalities. It's open source as well.
I've started a new role in my life. I was a front end web developer, but I've now been moved to testing web software, or more so, automating the testing of the software. I believe I am to pursue a BDD (Behavior Driven Development) methodology. I am fairly lost as to what to use, and how to piece it together.
The code that is being used/written is in Java to write a web interface for the application to test. I have documentation of the tests to run, but I've been curious how to go about automating it.
I've been directed to Cucumber as one of the "languages" to help with the automation. I have done some research and come across a web site for a synopsis of BDD Tools/Frame works,
8 Best Behavior Driven Development (BDD) Tools and Testing Frameworks. This helped a little but then I got a little confused of how to implement it. It seems that Selenium is a common denominator in a lot of the BDD frameworks for testing a GUI, but it still doesn't seem to help describe what to do.
I then came across the term Functional Testing tool, and I think that confused me even more. Do they all test a GUI?
I think the one that looked like it was all one package was SmartBear TestComplete, and then there is, what seems to be, another similar application by SmartBear called, SmartBear TestLeft, but I think I saw that they still used Cucumber for BDDing it. There a few others that looked like they might work as well, but I guess the other question is what's the cheapest route?
I guess the biggest problem I have is how to make these tests more dynamic, as the UI/browser dimensions can easily change from system to system, and how do I go about writing automation that can handle this, and tie into a BDD methodology?
Does anyone have any suggestions here? Does anybody out there do this?
Thanks in advance.
BDD Architecture
BDD automation typically consists of a few layers:
The natural language steps
The wiring that ties the steps to their definition
The step definitions, which usually access page objects
Page objects, which provide all the capabilities of a page or widget
Automation over the actual code being exercised, often through the GUI.
The wiring between natural language steps and the step definitions is normally done by the BDD tool (Cucumber).
The automation is normally done using the automation tool (Selenium). Sometimes people do skip the GUI, perhaps targeting an API or the MVC layer instead. It depends how complex the functionality in your web page is. If in doubt, give Selenium a try. I've written automation frameworks for desktop apps; the principle's the same regardless.
Keeping it maintainable
To make the steps easy to maintain and change, keep the steps at a fairly high level. This is frequently referred to as "declarative" as opposed to "imperative". For instance, this is too detailed:
When Fred provides his receipt
And his receipt is scanned
And the cashier clicks "Refund to original card"
And the card is inserted...
Think about what the user is trying to achieve:
When Fred gets a refund to his original card
Generally a scenario will have a few Givens or Thens, but typically only one When (unless you have something like users interacting or time passing, where both events are needed to illustrate the behaviour).
Your page objects in this scenario might well be a "RefundPageObject" or perhaps, if that's too large, a "RefundToCardPageObject". This pattern allows multiple scenario steps to access the same capabilities without duplication, which means that if the way the capabilities are exercised changes, you only need to change them in one place.
Different page objects could also be used for different systems.
Getting started
If you're attacking this for the first time, start by getting an empty scenario that just runs and passes without doing anything (make the steps empty). When you've done this, you'll have successfully wired up Cucumber.
Write the production code that would make the scenario run. (This is the other way round from the way you'd normally do it; normally you'd write the scenario code first. I've found this is a good way to get started though.)
When you can run your scenario manually, add the automation directly to the steps (you've only got one scenario at this point). Use your favourite assertion package (JUnit) to get the outcome you're after. You'll probably need to change your code so that you can automate over it easily, by e.g.: giving relevant test ids to elements in your webpage.
Once you've got one scenario running, try to write any subsequent scenarios first; this helps you think about your design and the testability of what you're about to do. When you start adding more scenarios, start extracting that automation out into page objects too.
Once you've got a few scenarios, have a think about how you might want to address different systems. Avoid using lots of "if" statements if you can; those are hard to maintain. Injecting different implementations of page objects is probably better (the frameworks may well support this by now; I haven't used them in a while).
Keep refactoring as you add more scenarios. If the steps are too big, split them up. If the page objects are too big, divide them into widgets. I like to organize my scenarios by user / stakeholder capabilities (normally related to the "when" but sometimes to the "then") then by different contexts.
So to summarize:
Write an empty scenario
Write the code to make that pass manually
Wire up the scenario using your automation tool; it should now run!
Write another scenario, this time writing the automation before the production code
Refactor the automation, moving it out of the steps into page objects
Keep refactoring as you add more scenarios.
Now you've got a fully wired BDD framework, and you're in a good place to keep going while making it maintainable.
A final hint
Think of this as living documentation, rather than tests. BDD scenarios hardly ever pick up bugs in good teams; anything they catch is usually a code design issue, so address it at that level. It helps people work out what the code does and doesn't do yet, and why it's valuable.
The most important part of BDD is having the conversations about how the code works. If you're automating tests for code that already exists, see if you can find someone to talk to about the complicated bits, at least, and verify your understanding with them. This will also help you to use the right language in the scenarios.
See my post on using BDD with legacy systems for more. There are lots of hints for beginners on that blog too.
Since you feel lost as to where to start, I will hint you about some blogs I have written that talks a bit about your problem.
Some categories that may help you:
http://www.thinkcode.se/blog/category/Cucumber
http://www.thinkcode.se/blog/category/Selenium
This, rather long and old post, might give you hints as well:
http://www.thinkcode.se/blog/2012/11/01/cucumberjvm-not-just-for-testing-guis
Notice that versions are dated, but hopefully it can give some ideas as what too look for.
I am not an expert on the test automation but I am currently working on this part. So let me share some idea and hope it will help you at the current stage.
We have used selenium+cucumber+intellij for testing web application. We have used testcomplete+cucumber+intellij for testing java desktop application.
As to the test of web application, we have provided a test mode in our web application, which allows us to get some useful details of the product and the environment; and also allows us to easily trigger events through clicking the button and inputting text into the test panel under test mode.
I hope these are helpful for you.
I'm looking for a good, preferably free, test planning and documentation tool. Ideally something that will keep track of which tests have been run against which software version, with reporting ability. There's a whole bunch of tools listed here but are there any others, and which ones have you had the best experience with? (You do run tests, right?)
UPDATE 2008-01-29
So far TestLink and Fitness have been mentioned. A related question yielded also a link to the ReadySet project, an open collection of software planning documentation templates.
I have used TestLink and found it okayish, but I cannot say I enjoyed using it. Has anyone had any experience with Fitnesse? Or are there any other free tools out there that you have used and found satisfactory?
You should definitely try out Klaros-Testmanagement http://www.klaros-testmanagement.com which has an free, unrestricted Community Edition.
Yes, we do run tests, but not nearly as many as I'd like !
I highly recommend TestLink - the list of tools that you linked to shows that it's had more downloads than all of the other tools put together.
I've used QualityCenter/TestDirectory for a long time.
I'm now using testlink and I must say that I prefer QualityCenter/TestDirectory by far, even if it based on some buggy ActiveX control.
QualityCenter/TestDirectory is more easier to use and the interface is quite better.
TestLink and QualityCenter/TestDirectory are mainly for manual test case (however, you can use Quick Test Pro on QualityCenter/TestDirectory to automatize your tests).
Fitnesse is another kind of tool in my mind : basically, you write your test case on a wiki and link that to a JUnit test. Another tools like that are GreenPepper, Concordion, etc.
PractiTest is a very good option. Not free but very affordable - http://www.practitest.com
A little late on this one, but I would have to suggest you try TestLodge for your manual test management. It works in a simular way to what TestLink does, but it gives off a more professional interface and is something that we also allow our clients to use for their uat phase.
We use Quality Center / Test Director stuff. Its expensive as far as I know, and it's not that great.
I've heard good things about Fitnesse but I don't know how good it's test tracking is.
I know I just recently saw a slick looking test tracker for Trac or something, but I can't find it now...
Quality Center. It's expensive, but it is the best
I'm with Patrick - good ol' office tools :)
I just write mine in Microsoft Word
This is the structure I developed: Writing a System Test Plan.
One thought, and perhaps not a good one, would be to have every test submit a ticket to your ticketing system when it's run indicating the test name, build version, and date, and test results.
That would make the results searchable later-on.
We use a home-grown Access database.
This database keeps track of our requirements, test cases, test plan and test runs. We're able to produce an up-to-date RVTM, keep track of progress against the plan, and assign tasks to testers. We integrated it with Outlook, so each tester is assigned a task from the plan by the QA lead. When they're complete, they just tick it off in Outlook and it updates the database.
For our small team of testers it works nicely, and we're free to customize it however we want.
In my limited experience with them executable requirements (i.e. specifying all requirements as broken automated tests) have proven to be amazingly successful. I've worked on one project in which we placed a heavy emphasis on creating high-level automated tests which exercised all the functionality of a given use case/user story. It was really amazing to me how much easier development became after we began this practice. Implementing features became so much easier after writing a test and we were able to make major architectural changes to the system with all the confidence in the world that everything still worked the same as it did yesterday.
The biggest problem we ran into was that the tools for managing these types of tests aren't very good. We used Fitnesse quite a bit and as a result I now hate the Fit framework.
I'd like to know 1) if anyone else has experience developing using this type of test-driven requirement definition and 2) what tools you all used to facilitate this.
The primary tool I've also used was FitNesse. I've used it at several companies, with very good results. We did have test cases numbering in the many thousands, and we had to be very disciplined in how we organized and used them.
I've tried some other tools, including writing my own DSL (domain-specific language) and using things like RSpec. I really like RSpec, but it is certainly more of a developer tool than a business one.
I know Rick Mugridge has been working on a tool called ZiBreve (http://www.zibreve.com/visit.php?page=index) which is supposed to have stronger refactoring support. I haven't used it myself, but I know Rick and have talked to him several times. I know there was discussion at Agile 2008 on some different ways to deal with the Fitnesse tests in general.
Other than that, I haven't seen a lot of good tools out there. Even tools like WinRunner are fine for QA type tests, but for exploratory testing of requirements by the business, FitNesse or a custom DSL seem to be the ways to go right now.
You might want to take look at Robot Framework (http://robotframework.org). It's FIT-like but hopefully easier to integrate to different testing tools, version control and continuous integration. Different abstraction levels in the test data also make it easier to maintain the data, and when the separate test data editor gets more mature maintenance gets even easier. The quick start guide introduces the most important features of the framework and acts also as an executable demo.
I've had to use, test and set up both fitnesse and one of it's competitor, GreenPepper for my work, and what I can say is :
GreenPepper is a confluence plugin (confluence is an enterprise wiki from atlassian) and have many of the things you need in an "enterprise" level tool with little to no additional work required :
Better user friendly -rich text- wiki
syntax (makes it easier to work with
for non technical people)
It integrates very well with many
development tools : Eclipse, VB,
maven2 and Nant plugin, I tested most
and was very pleased.
User and access rights are managed by
confluence, which is to say it's good
and make uses of database of your
likin (which might be mandatory
depending on where you work)
Many other functionalities that might
or might not be required : ssl support, remote execution (install the wiki on unix, execute on windows if you are working on a C# project, or reverse)
Looks way better :D
Big downs for GreenPepper are : Configuration is quite hard and documentation is poor (although they seem to be working on it and they answer quite fast on their forum) and also it is not free, you have to pay for both confluence and GreenPepper, which might add up to quite a lot.
Fitnesse is very basic in my opinion, very easy to set up, it works but that's it, you can use some of the fitnesse plugins developed by the open source community, and even some Fit plugins, such as the Eclipse plugin (build the skeletton of the fixture from a fitnesse test file, provided it's in a .fit extension, very usefull). Integration is not ideal, authentification and access rights management is poor, but it's FREE and if you need something, you can do it because it's open source.
I've found that using contracts is a great approach. Metaprogramming contracts are generally lower-level than the types of integration tests you describe, but the two are certainly not mutually exclusive. I find contracts help keep documentation, implementation, and testing all in sync -- this is a major problem of TDD (not that it isn't a problem in non-TDD).
I've tried Fitnesse and its really awful (particularly integration with SVN).
And our company develop similar open-source tool with fit engine: FitPro
Another brilliant tool I've used is Concordion. It has the only disadvantage - requrements in html format
My experience is limited to personal projects and found much the same advantages you mentioned. I recommend http://metacpan.org/pod/Test::Simple::Tutorial which was my inspiration for trying out testing-based development. The perl testing modules seem pretty useful and flexible, though I have nothing to compare them to.
I also believe tests are vital for the maintenance period of a project. If you have good tests to begin with, it saves a lot of time and mistakes later on. I wish I had put more work into tests on my current project.