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I'm getting really tired of working against click-once and I'm wondering if there's a better alternative. I'm looking for a programming environment that preferably does not depend on the .net framework. I'm not sure how much .net does for me exactly (though I have some idea) but I'd like to make my programs as independent of downloading a microsoft or other framework. I often think of professional programs like itunes, gimp or firefox that don't require someone to have a .net framwork. I'd also like to have these programs work on windows mac and linux. Any suggestions?
You might want to look at Qt and QtCreator. QtCreator supports integration with Visual Studio, so you can continue to use the environment you apparently already like, but still produce portable results.
C or C++.
If you're looking to make a program that is like gimp or Firefox, than you'll have no other good alternative. Java needs its virtual machine and web apps require an Internet connection. Though that's rarely a problem these days, it simply might not be applicable in your case. However, like the others have alluded, true platform-independence is tricky and that is certainly not less trivial in C or C++. That's pretty much why Java and .NET came to be in the first place.
You could always write your applications in Java, using the Eclipse or Netbeans IDE. Java is cross-platform so that takes care of Linux and Mac.
Alternatively, you could write your code in C or C++, and use a separate compiler for each platform. But that is more difficult because it will expose you to more (all?) of the differences in the three platforms.
What about a web app, should work on all devices. Otherwise you can use Java but then people need to have Java on their machine. Native code will be a pain in the neck sicne you then need to compile it for all different OS versions
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I have been recently assigned as a tester on a web app that integrates with Microsoft Dynamix CRM.
There are a lot of repetitive testing tasks that could be automated to accelarate the testing effort.
I proposed this to my boss and said that I can start hacking together some watir scripts. However, he wants me to do more research (he is happy to invest the cash if there is something out there that can save us time - he is heavily attached to the idea of there being some kind of record and playback tool out there that cranks out robust scripts but I am not convinced).
This is my tool experience so far:
webdriver (Python)
watir-webdriver (just a dabble for an interview)
TestComplete (small suite of tests for a webapp in 2011)
QTP (in 2009)
Can someone please recommend some tools for me? I don't really know where to start.
It sounds like
Selenium / Webdriver is widely used, widely supported and a good price (free :) )
"Telerik TestStudio" is quite popular but seems like overkill for what I want to do
"QTP" is unreliable and overpriced.
"TestComplete" has some scattered support.
Since I'm already handy with Ruby, I am leaning towards running with the Watir option. Does this seem like a reasonable course?
I would suggest to go with the Open Source solutions: either Watir or Selenium. Both should work, then it depends on your liking. Personally I use Robot Framework with its selenium Library and it works very well and has quite a dynamic community.
Note that you should also consider if you can do part of your testing bellow the UI. You could probably do some tests on the API offered by Dynamix and used by your web app. That would be quicker and more robust.
I would recommend selenium-webdriver. As you said it's widely used, widely supported and good price (free). As you aleady know Ruby you can write tests on ruby using selenium-webdriver.
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first of all - thank you in advance for all answers.
Second - I'm not asking about writing console programs working on modern systems (like Ubuntu 11.10 or Windows 7) nor batch files.
Third - I'm not going to become DOS 6.22 nor Windows 3.1 programs developer. Maybe I will write small program only for educational purpose.
I am wondering how programmers works on early (I refer to 70's, 80's and begining of 90's) days of computer. On wikipedia there's many information about, let's caled it "ancient times", but there's not enough about "middle ages" (I'm referring to 70-90's) in programming definition. Although in DOS times programs higly depends on used machines (because they directly call hardware IRQ), I can't believe that there wasn't something like today Integrated Development Environment and that some of them were written in high level programming language. Is it possible that Prehistoric 2 has been written in Assembly? I don't think so, but I assume that early versions of BASIC can't receive such possibility.
Could you recommend any good article or source of information? I'm interested both MS (DOS, Windows 16-bit) and Unix platforms.
See also Borland Turbo C++ and Borland C++, commonly used in the early 90s.
If memory serves, Commander Keen was built using Borland tools. It's probable that other same-era Apogee/id games (like the original 2D Duke Nukem) were built under Borland as well.
Later on (early-to-mid 90s), id Software started using Watcom and the DOS/4GW DOS extender to build games like the original DOOM.
I was working in that period on Windows 16-bit and DOS (also DEC VAX and Alpha).
Mostly I used Turbo Pascal and Delphi 1 both of which provided IDE's. This was in the early 90's
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I'm looking for a free visual editor for a language that would compile to native windows exe, no runtime.
I'm looking for alternatives to the Delphi suite (so don't give it as an answer), something that would allow me to write Windows GUI applications with ease.
I don't care about the language, as long as it gets the job done, but I would appreciate if your suggestions avoid functional languages. Even better if it abstracts the windowing system with something more simple than the winAPI.
Why don't you download the free visual studio express edition? With it you can develop in c#, visual basic as well as in 'plain' c++
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I know c# and visual basic.net use runtimes. But the runtimes are free anyway so it might not be a problem. When developing in .Net it really is rapid development.
When programming in C you can avoid runtimes, although it is tricky to create something which even doesn't require the msvc runtime dll's
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A suggestion: AutoIT scripting...quite small and handy scripting language. Some people have actually developed a full blown application with it.
Lazarus is an open source implementation/remake of native Delphi.
Bloodshed Dev++ has to be one of my favorites for a free editor.
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I am looking for a STABLE FTP library for Compact Framework. I would prefer a library where I don't have to fix or step through any code, but just use as is.
While the free OpenCf.FTP is great, I think it is at this point creating more work for me than my actual coding and I am afraid I don't have time allotted for this.
Any libs you guys have had experience with? Good/bad?
Our Rebex FTP/SSL supports .NET CF since 2006. It shares the codebase with Rebex FTP which is maintained since 2004. I guess it is probable quite stable - for example Microsoft licensed this FTP/SSL component and is using it in Visual Studio 2010 for web deployment. Source code available.
Xceed also has a solid FTP library for .NET CF.
Check out IP*Works from \n Software. Solid and well supported.
What i find the most bizarre about CF is that it lacks FTP functionality. I mean it is a framework for MOBILE apps for God's sake. Perhaps someone from MS could enlighten me on why file transfer functionality is missing from mobile apps framework.
I am sure someone will come with some long and smart sounding explanation. Knock yourself out, it still makes no sense at all.
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This weekend I installed Windows 7 (brilliant!) and there I found this genious tool called Problem Steps Recorder. Apparently a tool that came with the beta bug reporting tool thingy.
I am currently trying to document some application usages for other developers. (In this exact case, how to get Showplan XML Statistics in SQL Profiler and some basic usage of Database Engine Tuning Advisor). And I was thinking that a tool like that Problem Steps Recorder with be perfect for this! Only problem is that it is only in windows 7 (?) and the output is an mht file which also contains some general bug issue text etc...
Anyways, does anyone know if this tool is available in a more general version? Or if there are some free and smooth alternatives which does kind of the same thing for Vista (and other windows versions if possible)?
Maybe Wink is your answer.
I'm looking for a better capture tool for both user documentation and reporting bugs. The best "steps recorder" that I've seen is bundled with Testuff. Their Test Runner app lets you select a region to record (video). It captures every mouse click and logs every key press along side the video playback. Of course, it's designed only for reporting bugs to a development team.
I'm still using SnagIt (cheap, not free) for capturing screens and adding annotations. I also have Camtasia, but that's definitely not "free" as you requested :)
I just stumbled upon 'Imago recorder', available via various software / download sites. It's not pretty but it does the trick and it's free.
It's currentyl available here
Additional option you should definitely pay attention to is StepsToReproduce. There are several options for recording (screen/window/region) and nice powerful annotation tools. And it's also free!