SQL Server 2008 Database Question.
I have 2 tables, for arguments sake called Customers and Users where a single Customer can have 1 to n Users. The Customers table generates a CustomerId which is a seeded identity with a +1 increment on it. What I'm after in the Users table is a compound key comprising the CustomerId and a sequence number such that in all cases, the first user has a sequence of 1 and subsequent users are added at x+1.
So the table looks like this...
CustomerId (PK, FK)
UserId (PK)
Name
...and if for example, Customer 485 had three customers the data would look like...
CustomerId | UserId | Name
----------
485 | 1 | John
485 | 2 | Mark
485 | 3 | Luke
I appreciate that I can manually add the 1,2,3,...,n entry for UserId however I would like to get this to happen automatically on row insert in SQL, so that in the example shown I could effectively insert rows with the CustomerId and the Name with SQL Server protecting the Identity etc. Is there a way to do this through the database design itself - when I set UserId as an identity it runs 1 to infinity across all customers which isn't what I am looking for - have I got a setting wrong somewhere, or is this not an option?
Hope that makes sense - thanks for your help
I can think of no automatic way to do this without implementing a custom Stored Procedure that inserted the rows and checked to increment the Id appropriately, althouh others with more knowledge may have a better idea.
However, this smells to me of naturalising a surrogate key - which is not always a good idea.
More info here:
http://www.agiledata.org/essays/keys.html
That's not really an option with a regular identity column, but you could set up an insert trigger to auto populate the user id though.
The naive way to do this would be to have the trigger select the max user id from the users table for the customer id on the inserted record, then add one to that. However, you'll run into concurrency problems there if more than one person is creating a user record at the same time.
A better solution would be to have a NextUserID column on the customers table. In your trigger you would:
Start a transaction.
Increment the NextUserID for the customer (locking the row).
Select the updated next user id.
use that for the new User record.
commit the transaction.
This should ensure that simultaneous additions of users don't result in the same user id being used more than once.
All that said, I would recommend that you just don't do it. It's more trouble than it's worth and just smells like a bad idea to begin with.
So you want a generated user_id field that increments within the confines of a customer_id.
I can't think of one database where that concept exists.
You could implement it with a trigger. But my question is: WHY?
Surrogate keys are supposed to not have any kind of meaning. Why would you try to make a key that, simultaneously, is the surrogate and implies order?
My suggestions:
Create a date_created field, defaulting to getDate(). That will allow you to know the order (time based) in which each user_id was created.
Create an ordinal field - which can be updated by a trigger, to support that order.
Hope that helps.
Related
I have a table with two columns, and together they make up the primary key for this table:
Column A | Number
----------+--------
Elephant | 1
Elepahnt | 2
Giraff | 1
Giraff | 2
Giraff | 3
Now, I want a trigger that if you delete Giraff 2, then Giraff 1 stays the same, but Giraff 3 becomes Giraff 2.
Also this trigger should see that if I insert an Elephant without a number, it just goes and picks 3 as number.
So I am thinking a trigger after insert, delete
but I need a if statement/loop that goes through each row re-evaluating the numbers and updating if necessary.
Any ideas?
Two things.
This is a terrible idea, I can’t urge you enough not to do it. Whatever reason you think you have for this is wrong.
That said, yes, you could do this with triggers. Although you don’t need to be deleting the record and renumbering, you could instead just delete from the end. Which gives you a better solution than a trigger. Use stored procedures instead.
That said, this is a terrible idea, please don’t do it. Please ask another question, giving the reason why you think you should do this. Get a better opinion.
The re-evaluation that you are requesting seems like a lot can go wrong. In very small amounts of data it wouldn't be as much of a problem but as the data grows and multiple users are working in it you will see problems.
You should consider the reason why you would want the PK to change. Your better off redesigning the table to have a unique key, use the ANIMALSPECIES as a field and count the number by Animal Species. You may also want to add a field like ACTIVE and filtering by the value in ACTIVE. This way you can see the keep the data for further purposes.
I do not recommend what you are requesting.
Don't do this. Instead, have an auto-incrementing column. This looks like:
create table animals (
animal_id int generated always as identity, -- depends on database
a varchar(255)
);
Then create a view to calculate the value you want:
create view v_animals as
select animal,
row_number() over (partition by a order by animal_id) as number
from animals;
I don't know what is the best wording of the question, but I have a table that has 2 columns: ID and NAME.
when I delete a record from the table the related ID field deleted with it and then the sequence spoils.
take this example:
if I deleted row number 2, the sequence of ID column will be: 1,3,4
How to make it: 1,2,3
ID's are meant to be unique for a reason. Consider this scenario:
**Customers**
id value
1 John
2 Jackie
**Accounts**
id customer_id balance
1 1 $500
2 2 $1000
In the case of a relational database, say you were to delete "John" from the database. Now Jackie would take on the customer_id of 1. When Jackie goes in to check here balance, she will now show $500 short.
Granted, you could go through and update all of her other records, but A) this would be a massive pain in the ass. B) It would be very easy to make mistakes, especially in a large database.
Ids (primary keys in this case) are meant to be the rock that holds your relational database together, and you should always be able to rely on that value regardless of the table.
As JohnFx pointed out, should you want a value that shows the order of the user, consider using a built in function when querying.
In SQL Server identity columns are not guaranteed to be sequential. You can use the ROW_NUMBER function to generate a sequential list of ids when you query the data from the database:
SELECT
ROW_NUMBER() OVER (ORDER BY Id) AS SequentialId,
Id As UniqueId,
Name
FROM dbo.Details
If you want sequential numbers don't store them in the database. That is just a maintenance nightmare, and I really can't think of a very good reason you'd even want to bother.
Just generate them dynamically using tSQL's RowNumber function when you query the data.
The whole point of an Identity column is creating a reliable identifier that you can count on pointing to that row in the DB. If you shift them around you undermine the main reason you WANT an ID.
In a real world example, how would you feel if the IRS wanted to change your SSN every week so they could keep the Social Security Numbers sequential after people died off?
In this scenario: If I have a table Users, with users from default sign up and facebook sign up.
Table users
id | name
1 John (default)
2 Carl (default)
111 Steven (facebook)
...
111 Wayne (default)
If the id is auto increment and unique, when the DBMS will try to insert the id 111 from the default sign up, i will get an error due the unique restriction, because the id 111 has inserted manually. So, the DBMS should know if the id 111 exists the next default sign up should be 112 and not 111.
There is any way to avoid this error? Or what is the best practice to handle similar cases?
Make two tables of users seems a bit over-complicated, just to avoid this issue.
Here are two alternative approaches.
First, if a user can only sign up in two ways, you can have separate columns for each one. So, the users table would have columns such as:
DefaultDateTime
FacebookDateTime
and so on, for whatever columns you want. When a user registers in the "second" way, then you update the existing record rather than inserting a new one.
The second method is probably better. Have two tables:
Users
Signups
The Signups table would have a foreign key relationship back to the Users table (possibly with a NOT NULL constraint). Both tables would have auto-incremented integer primary keys.
Apparently, in your data model, the signups are separate from the users, so you should model them separately. Then you can have as many signups as you like for a given user.
Maby you can try to get the MAX ID value from the database and add +1 to it for the next insert. That way you will always get a value over the current value.
If I wanted to make a database with subscribers (think YouTube), my thought is to have one table containing user information such as user id, email, etc. Then another table (subscriptIon table) containing 2 columns: one for the user id and one for a new subscriber's user id.
So if my user id is 101 and user 312 subscribes to me, my subscription table would be updated with a new row containing 101 in column 1 and 312 in column 2.
My issue with this is that every time 101 gets a new subscriber, it adds their id to the subscription table meaning I can't really set a primary key for the subscription table as a user id can be present many times for each of their subscribers and a primary key requires a unique value.
Also in the event that there's a lot of subscriptions going on, won't it be very slow to search for all of 101's followers as all the rows will have to be searched and be checked for every time 101 is in the first column and check the user id (the subscriber to 101) in the second column?
Is there's a more optimal solution to my problem?
Thanks!
In your case, the pairs (user_id, subscriber_id) are unique (a user can't have two subscriptions for another user, can they?). So make a compound primary key consisting of both fields if you need one.
Regarding the speed of querying your subscription table: think about the queries you'll run on the table, and add appropriate indexes. A common operation might be "give me a list of all my subscribers", which would translate to something like
SELECT subscriber_id FROM subscriptions WHERE user_id = 123;
(possibly as part of a join). If you have indexed the user_id column, this query can be run quite efficiently.
A Primary Key can be made of two columns, subscribe and subscriber in your case. And since search will only be on integer value, (no text search) it will be fast.
more informations here : https://stackoverflow.com/a/2642799/1338574
I have an access table with an automatic primary key, a date, and other data. The first record starts at 36, due to deleted records. I want to change all the primary keys so they begin at 1 and increment, ordered by the date. Whats the best way to do this?
I want to change the table from this:
| TestID | Date | Data |
| 36 | 12/02/09 | .54 |
| 37 | 12/04/09 | .52 |
To this:
| TestID | Date | Data |
| 1 | 12/02/09 | .54 |
| 2 | 12/04/09 | .52 |
EDIT: Thanks for the input and those who answered. I think some were reading a little too much into my question, which is okay because it still adds to my learning and thinking process. The purpose of my question was two fold: 1) It would simply be nicer for me to have the PK match with the order of my data's dates and 2) to learn if something like this was possible for later use. Such as, if I want to add a new column to the table which numbers the tests, labels the type of test, etc. I am trying to learn a lot at once right now so I get a little confused where to start sometimes. I am building .NET apps and trying to learn SQL and database management and it is sometimes confusing finding the right info with the different RDMS's and ways to interact with them.
Following from MikeW, you can use the following SQL command to copy the data from the old to the new table:
INSERT
TestID, Date, Data
INTO
NewTable
SELECT
TestID, Date, Data
FROM
OldTable;
The new TestID will start from 1 if you use an AutoIncrement field.
I would create a new table, with autoincrement.
Then select all the existing data into it, ordering by date. That will result in the IDs being recreated from "1".
Then you could drop the original table, and rename the new one.
Assuming no foreign keys - if so you'd have to drop and recreate those too.
An Autonumber used as a surrogate primary keys is not data, but metadata used to do nothing but connect records in related tables. If you need to control the values in that field, then it's data, and you can't use an Autonumber, but have to roll your own autoincrement routine. You might want to look at this thread for a starting point, but code for this for use in Access is available everywhere Access programmers congregate on the Net.
I agree that the value of the auto-generated IDENTITY values should have no meaning, even for the coder, but for education purposes, here's how to reseed the IDENTITY using ADO:
ACC2000: Cannot Change Default Seed and Increment Value in UI
Note the article as out of date because it says, "there are no options available in the user interface (UI) for you to make this change." In later version the Access, the SQL DLL could be executed when in ANSI-92 Query Mode e.g. something like this:
ALTER TABLE MyTable ALTER TestID INTEGER IDENTITY (1, 1) NOT NULL;