I am using the alerts feature of IronMQ service provided by IronIO to start workers.
I have things setup so that a message is pushed onto the push queue. The push queue sends an alert that starts a worker. The worker pulls off the message on the push queue, reserving it. Sometimes for whatever reason the job fails, the reservation for a message expires, and the message becomes available again. However, from what I can tell, no alert is sent when the reservation expires on a message. So the message sits in the queue until another message is added to the queue firing an alert and starting a worker. But the new message is not processed.
Are alerts created for messages that have a reservation expire in IronMQ? Is there any documentaion that I missed describing what can happen?
I am working on having workers pull off multiple messages but I am running into issues unrelated to iron io when processing multiple messages in the same worker.
Also is there a way to pull off the top of the queue. To avoid pulling off messages that may be causing errors? Should I just modify my workers to delete messages causing errors?
Currently there are no alerts for when a message times out and goes back on the queue, but that does seem like it would be a good idea. I assume this is a pretty inactive queue? I made a feature request for this here: https://trello.com/c/XcHi0NdN/35-fire-alert-when-a-message-times-out-goes-back-on-queue
And regarding messages that are causing issues, your best bet would be to add them to a different queue (an error queue) and delete them off the original queue. Then you can go through the error queue to figure out why certain messages are causing you problems. This is known as a "dead letter queue" btw and we have a feature request for it here, please give it a vote! https://trello.com/c/bGnJcNa9/26-dead-letter-queue
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I have a publisher that sends messages to a consumer that moves a motor.
The motor has a work queue which I cannot access, and it works slower than the rate of the incoming messages, so I'm trying to control the traffic on the consumer.
To keep updated and relevant data coming to the motor without the queue filling up and creating a traffic jam, I set the RabbitMQ queue size limit to 5 and basicQos to 1.
The idea is that the RabbitMQ queue will drop the old messages when it is filled up, so the newest commands are at the front of the queue.
Also by setting basicQos to 1 I ensure that the consumer doesn't grab all messages from the queue and bombards the motor at once, which is exactly what i'm trying to avoid since I can't do anything once the command was sent to the motor.
This way the consumer takes messages from the queue one by one, while new messages replace the old ones on the queue.
Practically this moves the bottleneck to the RabbitMQ queue instead of the motor's queue.
I also cannot check the motor's work queue, so all traffic control must be done on the consumer.
I added messageId and tested, and found out many messages are still coming and going long after the publisher is being shut down.
I'm expecting around 5 messages after shutdown since that's the size of the queue, but i'm getting hundreds.
I also added a few seconds of sleep inside the callback to make sure this isn't the robot queue that's acting up, but i'm still getting many messages after shutdown, and I can see in the logs the callback is being called every time so it's definitely still getting messages from somewhere.
Please help.
Thanks.
Moving the acknowledgment to the end of the callback solved the problem.
I'm guessing that by setting basicQos to 1 it did execute the callback for each message one after another, but in the background it kept grabbing messages from the queue.
So even when the publisher was shutdown, the consumer still had messages that were taken from the queue in it, and those messages were the ones that I saw being executed.
I have got several messages on error queue which has name TestQueue_errors.
One of the messages on error queue is important and should be moved back to service queue TestQueue so it can be processed again. The other messages on error queue are broken and should stay on error queue.
I have tried to do that with shovel plugin but it seems it is able only to move all messages from one queue to another. Is there a way I could achieve that, to move single message from one queue to another?
As far as I know Rabbit Management does not allow to do it. The only thing you can do is to publish this message again.
Maybe there are some tools which give possibility to achieve it but it is not a standard behaviour.
Here are actions which you are able to perform on the queue (from RabbitMQ Management page):
Move all messages from one queue to another
Get all messages without requeue option (they would not be in the queue anymore)
Get first N messages without requeue option and then move the rest of messages to another queue
I'm trying to use RabbitMQ in a more unconventional way (though at this point i can pick any other message queue implementation if needed)
I have one queue (I can have more if needed) that where customers are fetching N messages asynchronous. After they do their work I send the results from the client to the db.
I have two problems: first I don't want that they will work on the same message, second I want to grantee that I wont lose messages in case that my customer will close the browser or just stop working.
I looked at the documentation and saw the TTL which was perfect for me if I could alter that message that got timeout isn't going to be deleted but to move to another queue. can't find a way to alter this.
Moreover I looked at the confirmation option which in the first glance looked what I wanted,that mechanism is working like this: when the consumer gets a message he send confirmation to queue, I thought I can delay this confirm and send it when the work is done on the client side.
my problem was that I can't program the queue that if any message didn't get confirm then return it to the queue (or to another).
I also find how to do a scheduled message but it didn't help either because I don't want that the message will be inserted to the queue in five min,I want that when a customer will receive a message it will be locked in the queue for 5 min until confirm to delete is set otherwise return it to the queue.
Can I do temporary queue that enables my mechanism?
If someone can help with one of the problems or suggest another architecture or option to do it in another MQ it would be great.
Resources:
confirmation:
http://www.rabbitmq.com/blog/2011/02/10/introducing-publisher-confirms/
post about locks but his problem was a batcher component:
Locks and batch fetch messages with RabbitMq
TTL:
https://www.rabbitmq.com/ttl.html
Schedule a message:
https://www.rabbitmq.com/blog/2015/04/16/scheduling-messages-with-rabbitmq/
my problem was that I can't program the queue that if any message
didnt get confirm then return it to the queue (or to another).
RabbitMQ does this anyhow, so all you have to do is switch off the auto-ack flag, you figured this out
I thought I can delay this confirm and send it when the work is done
on the client side.
so just send the ACK once you've finished with processing the message.
All the unacknowledged messages remain in the queue and are re-delivered to next consumer (or the same one when it's up again, depending on your setup)
I have this issue, I want to know my rabbit is working great.
I am not gonna send the message, so, Im not 100% sure is being sent correctly. But the problem is this.
After all is configured and all....
I see at the RabbitMQ web manager
And when I supposedly send a message the I see activity on the "message rates" chart but nothing at the "queued messages" .
I frankly dont know whats going on, is it too fast that doesnt need to queue the messages? Or something is misconfigured?
Any idea of the difference?
Thanks.
In case RabbitMQ receive non-routable message it drop it. So while message was received, it was not queued.
You may configure Alternate Exchanges to catch such messages.
In my case,
Situation1:
when my Exchange in rabbitTemplate.convertAndSend was not set properly -- the message was not sent to the correct queue -- the Queued messages was empty all time.
however, Message rates is not zero, it does show there are message get sent.
Which correspond to what the other answer is saying:
In case RabbitMQ receive non-routable message it drop it.
Situation2:
when my Exchange in rabbitTemplate.convertAndSend was indeed set properly -- the message was sent to the correct queue -- the Queued messages was queuing up the message.
Everything seems fine.
Situation3:
(continue from Situation2)
And now, I turn on the receiver service which has the #RabbitListener.
The Queued messages immediately drops down to 0, and never goes up again.
But the transporting of messages is still working fine.
Situation4:
(continue from Situation2)
And now, I change the receiver service to use the rabbitTemplate.receiveAndConvert.
Which I manually receive the message from the queue every 2s by using a loop.
(message is also sent from sender service every 2s by using a loop, same as the situations before.)
Now, the Queued messages stays at constant -- a straight line
(depends on how many message you have queued up, in my case 1, before the receiver service is up, then it stays at 1).
Conclusion:
I suspect that, when the message is consumed too fast, the Queued messages will just show 0.
Which correspond to what the OP is saying:
is it too fast that doesnt need to queue the messages?
(or, I could screw up some setting in RabbitMQ and led to wrong conclusion. I dont think so, but idk, I am not familiar with RabbitMQ.)
I have a service which tasks worker processes via RabbitMQ. The messages are sent with a TTL, and the worker will not ack the message until it successfully completes the task sent in the message.
The tasking process will monitor workers for timeouts, and if a worker exceeds the timeout it will be terminated. Since the message isn't ack'd, the message is re-queued immediately and the next worker will pick up the message (this is useful in my scenario, as workers are unreliable and may fail but subsequent attempts typically succeed.
However, I would also like the ability to cancel a message. Terminating and re-creating the worker process is the normal procedure (it's single threaded, so I can't send a separate 'cancel' message to the worker). However, doing so leads to the message immediately re-queueing if the TTL has not been exceeded.
The only suggested solution I've found is here, which suggested a separate data source which checks if a message is still valid. However, that answer is both a) old and b) inconvenient.
Does RabbitMQ offer a means to cancel a message once it's been placed into the queue?
Unfortunately rabbitmq does not have a way to cancel a message.
Without the ability to send a "cancel" message to your consumer, you may have to do something like what that other post suggests.
Another option to consider: message processing should be idempotent. That is, processing the same message more than once should only cause the desired result to occur once (the first time it is processed).
Idempotence is often achieved through the use of a correlationid in messaging. You can attach a correlationid to your message, then check a database or other service to see if that message should still be processed. If you want to "cancel" the message, you would update the other database/service with that specific correlationid to say "this one has been processed already" or "has been canceled" or something like that.